Re: OT: Playing GiP data wirelessly.
On 06/09/2021 09:34, Jim web wrote: In article <1986979950.112684.1630871945...@office.mailbox.org>, Dave Lambley wrote: A wirelessly connected stereo pair is possible (at least according to a marketing director), https://www.theregister.com/2014/01/14/imagination_caskeid_wifi_audio_synchronization/ I'm pretty sure a stereo *system* could operate wirelessly. But given the discription and use of the space I doubt it would generally be possible to *hear* a stereo image[1] - except perhaps in one or few 'lucky' locations. So this depends on the aim/use, I think. If the OP wants to sit in a specific place and hear stereo there, not caring about anywhere else, then trying for stereo may makes sense. But if they just want everyone in the space to hear music sound OK, then I suspect that stereo 'replay' as such is irrelevant. More a matter of getting a decent overall sound in the places where people may sit. Jim [1] Note that by 'image' here I don't mean the effect of having the sounds come from instruments/voices "hung on a line between the two speakers". I mean the more dimensional sense of place, distance, and acoustic you can get from something like an excellent recording of an orchestra. Few people get to hear this from a 'stereo' setup as it isn't easy to obtain. Due to the lack of simple distinguishing terms I've had to use 'stereo' above in more than one way, alas. [2] i.e. different things seem to come from different directions. Hi Jim, I posted on the site you suggested. Hope I chose the right list so will find out soon enough. Many thanks for your several comments and advice. Best wishes, Budge. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: OT: Playing GiP data wirelessly.
In article <1986979950.112684.1630871945...@office.mailbox.org>, Dave Lambley wrote: > A wirelessly connected stereo pair is possible (at least according to a > marketing director), > https://www.theregister.com/2014/01/14/imagination_caskeid_wifi_audio_synchronization/ I'm pretty sure a stereo *system* could operate wirelessly. But given the discription and use of the space I doubt it would generally be possible to *hear* a stereo image[1] - except perhaps in one or few 'lucky' locations. So this depends on the aim/use, I think. If the OP wants to sit in a specific place and hear stereo there, not caring about anywhere else, then trying for stereo may makes sense. But if they just want everyone in the space to hear music sound OK, then I suspect that stereo 'replay' as such is irrelevant. More a matter of getting a decent overall sound in the places where people may sit. Jim [1] Note that by 'image' here I don't mean the effect of having the sounds come from instruments/voices "hung on a line between the two speakers". I mean the more dimensional sense of place, distance, and acoustic you can get from something like an excellent recording of an orchestra. Few people get to hear this from a 'stereo' setup as it isn't easy to obtain. Due to the lack of simple distinguishing terms I've had to use 'stereo' above in more than one way, alas. [2] i.e. different things seem to come from different directions. -- Electronics https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: OT: Playing GiP data wirelessly.
> On 05/09/2021 09:24 Budge wrote: > Only two speakers installed flush in ceiling at transition with conical roof > and all others removed for change of use. I agree that there is no point in > trying to create a "stereo" sound image and so am just trying to think > through what would be the simplest mono configuration. I now only have > stereo amplifiers but several available and in various powers. A wirelessly connected stereo pair is possible (at least according to a marketing director), https://www.theregister.com/2014/01/14/imagination_caskeid_wifi_audio_synchronization/ I don't know if Imgtec sold these chips to anyone, but I notice Denon are selling speakers which claim to do this. Dave ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: OT: Playing GiP data wirelessly.
Hi Jim, Many thanks. I shall go there. Regards, Budge On 05/09/2021 09:56, Jim web wrote: In article <6fdea109-32df-a8e2-a4ca-e23ba8fb7...@errichel.co.uk>, Budge wrote: Hi and many thanks to Geoff and all who have replied including those who have PM'd me as they have together improved my perspective of options. The several questions and points raised are most helpful. I'd also suggest trying https://pinkfishmedia.net/forum/ Both as a forum where you could get info from people who've done this, and also perhaps where you can find info on the existing pages. Its much better run than most 'forums' and also works with plain browsers that have javascript 'off'. So avoids many of the pitfalls of other forums (fora?). FWIW I know who runs it as he is a UKHHSoc member. Jim ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: OT: Playing GiP data wirelessly.
In article <6fdea109-32df-a8e2-a4ca-e23ba8fb7...@errichel.co.uk>, Budge wrote: > Hi and many thanks to Geoff and all who have replied including those who > have PM'd me as they have together improved my perspective of options. > The several questions and points raised are most helpful. I'd also suggest trying https://pinkfishmedia.net/forum/ Both as a forum where you could get info from people who've done this, and also perhaps where you can find info on the existing pages. Its much better run than most 'forums' and also works with plain browsers that have javascript 'off'. So avoids many of the pitfalls of other forums (fora?). FWIW I know who runs it as he is a UKHHSoc member. Jim -- Electronics https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: OT: Playing GiP data wirelessly.
On 04/09/2021 21:34, Geoff wrote: Hi, On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 5:58 AM, Budge wrote: There is power available at all the locations where a speaker might be placed but absolutely no way any cables can be trailed between speakers. In other words I need a wireless system with in-built amplifiers. I am assuming Bluetooth but could use wifi. The problem as I see it is that I only want one channel at each speaker. I can't help with your audio problem, but just wanted to point out that powerline ethernet adapters are also an option. I've used them before in areas where I couldn't run a cable & they work very well. Cheers, Hi and many thanks to Geoff and all who have replied including those who have PM'd me as they have together improved my perspective of options. The several questions and points raised are most helpful. The space is now used as small restaurant (about 36 covers) and for small functions so configuration of seating and audience changes depending on purpose and until recently covid restrictions! Only two speakers installed flush in ceiling at transition with conical roof and all others removed for change of use. I agree that there is no point in trying to create a "stereo" sound image and so am just trying to think through what would be the simplest mono configuration. I now only have stereo amplifiers but several available and in various powers. The cable option is not acceptable so I am thinking of independent bluetooth speakers. Room size and environment is not likely to result in signal acoustic timing problems and all that is required is background music rather than PA. I shall start looking at what speakers are available which would fit into the site environment. Thanks to all, Budge. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: OT: Playing GiP data wirelessly.
Dynaudio sell wireless speakers. They're not Bluetooth (though some models can do it) and they're not wifi, there is a transmitter box you connect your sources to (optical, stereo analogue, USB). Each speaker is set as left or right, and is mains powered. They're not cheap. I have two pairs of Xeo 3, an older model, and they sound fantastic but then they should for the price. -- Owen Smith Cambridge, UK > On 4 Sep 2021, at 21:37, Geoff wrote: > > Hi, > >> On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 5:58 AM, Budge wrote: >> >> There is power available at all the locations where a speaker might be >> placed but absolutely no way any cables can be trailed between >> speakers. In other words I need a wireless system with in-built >> amplifiers. I am assuming Bluetooth but could use wifi. The problem as >> I see it is that I only want one channel at each speaker. > > I can't help with your audio problem, but just wanted to point out that > powerline > ethernet adapters are also an option. I've used them before in areas where I > couldn't > run a cable & they work very well. > > Cheers, > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: OT: Playing GiP data wirelessly.
Hi, On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 5:58 AM, Budge wrote: > There is power available at all the locations where a speaker might be > placed but absolutely no way any cables can be trailed between > speakers. In other words I need a wireless system with in-built > amplifiers. I am assuming Bluetooth but could use wifi. The problem as > I see it is that I only want one channel at each speaker. I can't help with your audio problem, but just wanted to point out that powerline ethernet adapters are also an option. I've used them before in areas where I couldn't run a cable & they work very well. Cheers, ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
