> Does ggi depend on Xwindow system for anything? No. > can it draw graphics right in the console like svgalib? Yes. Using SVGAlib or native drivers. LibGGI can be thought of as "Meta-Graphicslib" that will draw on about anything. > i ask this cause my project is to port a light window system that uses > opengl to linux but without depending on another window system =] That is doable, if you have a suitable driver for your hardware in either SVGAlib, the kernel framebuffer drivers or a kgicon driver. > in other words if a system doesn't have X installed can ggi run? Yes. > i'm not a big fan of svgalib and would rather use ggimesa... Note, that you will need a driver. If SVGAlib works, you have one. > another thing.. when building ggi do i need to target it for ggimesa No. LibGGI does (should) not have dependencies on any application or extension. > cause the ggimesa demos arent' compiling That must be a problem with ggimesa, then. What happens ? CU, ANdy -- = Andreas Beck | Email : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =