I miss working on LibGGI3D, and since Berlin and a few other projects I follow have all recently been pining for a generic streamed rendering framework of some kind, I think it is time to bring this project back to life. I have create a SourceForge entry for LibGGI3D, and will be working on it as time permits. I hope to be able to do some cleaning-up of the stagnant CVS codebase as well, and I am also in the middle of rewriting the LibGGI3D RFC document. If there's anyone left who still is interested in LibGGI3D, let me know. Jon --- 'Cloning and the reprogramming of DNA is the first serious step in becoming one with God.' - Scientist G. Richard Seed