Re: GHC release timing and future build infrastructure

2017-08-03 Thread Ara Adkins
I definitely agree with what you're saying around some of the features that require external support such as backpack. I think my statement was focused more on new language features that don't require additional support, as with stack getting access to those is as simple as hopping on the latest

Re: GHC release timing and future build infrastructure

2017-08-03 Thread Herbert Valerio Riedel
Hi! On 2017-08-03 at 08:41:59 +0200, Ara Adkins wrote: [...] > I nevertheless see `stack` as a huge boon for easing adoption of new > compiler versions (and hence new language features/extensions). Since I totally disagree about Stack being beneficial to the quick adoption of new features,

Re: GHC release timing and future build infrastructure

2017-08-03 Thread Ara Adkins
Glad I could provide some useful thoughts! > You are to some extent correct; an unwillingness to release before major > (for some definition of "major") bugs are fixed will inevitably lead to > slips. However, I think a faster release cycle will make it easier to > accept releases with such bugs

Re: GHC release timing and future build infrastructure

2017-08-02 Thread Ben Gamari
Bardur Arantsson writes: > On 2017-08-02 21:26, Bardur Arantsson wrote: > >> I'd like to add a few thoughs (or just to underscore the ones you've >> already brought forth, as the case may be): >> > [--snip--] >> reasons -- I wouldn't presume to know. Also note that this is

Re: GHC release timing and future build infrastructure

2017-08-02 Thread Bardur Arantsson
On 2017-08-02 21:26, Bardur Arantsson wrote: > I'd like to add a few thoughs (or just to underscore the ones you've > already brought forth, as the case may be): > [--snip--] > reasons -- I wouldn't presume to know. Also note that this is > *basically* how Rust also works, it's just that they

Re: GHC release timing and future build infrastructure

2017-08-02 Thread Michal Terepeta
On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 4:19 AM Ben Gamari wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I just posted a pair of posts on the GHC blog [1,2] laying out some > thoughts on the GHC release cycle timing [1] and how this relates to the > in-progress Jenkins build infrastructure [2]. When you

Re: GHC release timing and future build infrastructure

2017-08-02 Thread Bardur Arantsson
On 2017-08-01 15:05, Ara Adkins wrote: > Heya, > > I very much agree with the thoughts on the variability of the release > cadence. The following is somewhat of a stream of consciousness as I > read, so please excuse any lack of coherence. > > When you talk about the bugs being significant

Re: GHC release timing and future build infrastructure

2017-08-02 Thread Ben Gamari
Ara Adkins writes: > Heya, > > I very much agree with the thoughts on the variability of the release > cadence. The following is somewhat of a stream of consciousness as I > read, so please excuse any lack of coherence. > > When you talk about the bugs being significant blockers to

Re: GHC release timing and future build infrastructure

2017-08-01 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 10:19 PM, Ben Gamari wrote: > I just posted a pair of posts on the GHC blog [1,2] laying out some > thoughts on the GHC release cycle timing [1] and how this relates to the > in-progress Jenkins build infrastructure [2]. When you have a some time >

Re: GHC release timing and future build infrastructure

2017-08-01 Thread Ara Adkins
Heya, I very much agree with the thoughts on the variability of the release cadence. The following is somewhat of a stream of consciousness as I read, so please excuse any lack of coherence. When you talk about the bugs being significant blockers to the latest release I feel like that kind