Re: [Gimp-developer] [Fwd: [Bug 123647] Changed - Allow attaching additional (hidden) keybindings (accelerators) to menu entries]

2003-10-02 Thread David Neary
Hi, If this is an almost-concensus (only myself, Alan Horkan and Raphael seem to like the change), it seems reasonable to revert the redo shortcut to Ctrl-R. Cheers, Dave. Tom Mraz wrote: FYI (multiple keybindings per menu action in GTK+). As I see it will be implemented in GTK+ 2.4 I vote

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Fwd: [Bug 123647] Changed - Allow attaching additional (hidden) keybindings (accelerators) to menu entries]

2003-10-02 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:34:25 +0200, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this is an almost-concensus (only myself, Alan Horkan and Raphael seem to like the change), it seems reasonable to revert the redo shortcut to Ctrl-R. Please don't. If you replace the current Ctrl-Shift-Z by something

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Fwd: [Bug 123647] Changed - Allow attaching additional (hidden) keybindings (accelerators) to menu entries]

2003-10-02 Thread Simon Budig
Raphaël Quinet ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:34:25 +0200, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this is an almost-concensus (only myself, Alan Horkan and Raphael seem to like the change), it seems reasonable to revert the redo shortcut to Ctrl-R. Please don't. If

Re: [Gimp-developer] Redo shortcut

2003-10-02 Thread pvt . benkovsk
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 12:25:49PM +0200, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, I wonder when and why the terminology of hardcoding a keybinding was introduced into this discussion. I simply don't understand it's meaning. If you think about having two different keybindings bound to a single menu entry,

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Fwd: [Bug 123647] Changed - Allow attaching additional (hidden) keybindings (accelerators) to menu entries]

2003-10-02 Thread Tino Schwarze
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 11:03:02AM +0200, Simon Budig wrote: If this is an almost-concensus (only myself, Alan Horkan and Raphael seem to like the change), it seems reasonable to revert the redo shortcut to Ctrl-R. Please don't. If you replace the current Ctrl-Shift-Z by something

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Fwd: [Bug 123647] Changed - Allow attaching additional (hidden) keybindings (accelerators) to menu entries]

2003-10-02 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Raphal Quinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 08:34:25 +0200, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this is an almost-concensus (only myself, Alan Horkan and Raphael seem to like the change), it seems reasonable to revert the redo shortcut to Ctrl-R. Please don't.

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Fwd: [Bug 123647] Changed - Allow attaching additional (hidden) keybindings (accelerators) to menu entries]

2003-10-02 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tino Schwarze) writes: I would not change the shortcut if it will be changed with GTK 2.4 anyway. Just stick with CTRL-R. This way, we can later provide an alternative more sane extra shortcut using GTK 2.4. I don't think we ever want a second shortcut for anything. We

Re: [Gimp-developer] When will we branch CVS gimp-2-0?

2003-10-02 Thread Michael Natterer
Raphaël Quinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: According to the roadmap proposed a few weeks ago, we should be in feature freeze and we should have released 2.0rc1 by now. Also, the old web site was supposed to be replaced by the new one in order to be prepared to support the new release. None

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Fwd: [Bug 123647] Changed - Allow attaching additional (hidden) keybindings (accelerators) to menu entries]

2003-10-02 Thread David Neary
Hi, Sven Neumann wrote: Raphaël Quinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: try to replace it by something that is used by some other applications, such as Ctrl-Y. Do not bring back the old Ctrl-R. Unless Ctrl-Y collides with another suggested shortcut in the HIG, it seems like a reasonable choice

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Fwd: [Bug 123647] Changed - Allow attaching additional (hidden) keybindings (accelerators) to menu entries]

2003-10-02 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
Will you excuse me...but ..what CTRL-Y has to with REDO alltogether? CTRL + R - R is the first letter in REDO. SHIFT + CTRl + Z - Shift acts as amodifier to the CTRL + Z UNDO. CTRl + X - Stays next to Z and allows for fat toggling as has been argued. But... CTRL-Y? Why not just stick with

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Fwd: [Bug 123647] Changed - Allow attaching additional (hidden) keybindings (accelerators) to menu entries]

2003-10-02 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 09:19:11 -0300, Joao S. O. Bueno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will you excuse me...but ..what CTRL-Y has to with REDO alltogether? For better or worse, Ctrl-Y is the most frequently used shortcut for Redo. CTRL-Y? Why not just stick with CTRL+R? Maybe to pick the worst of both

Re: [Gimp-developer] When will we branch CVS gimp-2-0?

2003-10-02 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 12:32:28 +0200, Michael Natterer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raphaël Quinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: we are planning for 1.3.21 soon (not ready for 2.0rc1 yet) We cannot make a 2.0 release candidate until libgimp is API frozen. Apart from that, current CVS is more stable

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Fwd: [Bug 123647] Changed - Allow attaching additional (hidden) keybindings (accelerators) to menu entries]

2003-10-02 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Raphal Quinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ctrl-Y is the shortcut used by most Windows applications (except for Photoshop and Paint Shop Pro, using Ctrl-Shift-Z and Ctrl-Alt-Z) As far as I understood, Photoshop uses Ctrl-Z for redo. Actually a redo in PS is just an undo of the previous undo

Re: [Gimp-developer] When will we branch CVS gimp-2-0?

2003-10-02 Thread Carol Spears
Michael Natterer wrote: I totally agree and still wonder why we still have that old website. While we have good reasons to delay 2.0 release candidates, I fail to see a single reason for further web site moving delays. I never use gimp-1.2 anymore. Consider the lack of good reasons to move

Re: web site (was: [Gimp-developer] When will we branch CVS gimp-2-0?)

2003-10-02 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 12:24:12 -0400, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Natterer wrote: I totally agree and still wonder why we still have that old website. While we have good reasons to delay 2.0 release candidates, I fail to see a single reason for further web site moving

Re: [Gimp-developer] Converting old plug-ins to wirk with gimp-1.3.20 (gimp-2)

2003-10-02 Thread Jeff Trefftzs
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 14:42, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Perhaps you want to contribute a short porting guide. Such a document should be included with the 1.3 API reference. Let me know if you are interested, I can give you a template that we can include in devel-docs/libgimp later. Now that