Re: [Gimp-developer] http://developer.gimp.org/
Hi, I have done a small test design based on the design that drc has done and also drc has helped me to make the test developers site look good with the changing of colors and images. The test site can be located here: http://devel.helloween.kicks-ass.org/ But remember that this is a test design. Now I know that Raphaël wants to do the scripts so I have a suggestion: I can do the design and Raphaël can do the scripts and the content of the site. What do you think Raphaël? And I would also like to thank drc with the help of my weird ideas. Regards, -- Niklas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] http://developer.gimp.org/
Hi, On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 13:37, Raphaël Quinet wrote: That looks nice. That design looks vaguely familiar... ;-) It should look familiar.I think you might know the reason to why it should look familiar. I am not sure that the front page should have some kind of news, though. Having up-to-date information for the main site will be hard enough. History shows that everybody is excited at first and supplies a lot of news, but this slows down after a while and it is difficult to keep the site alive. So it would probably be better to keep the news part for the main site only. The home page of the developers' site would only have a set of links to the important sections of the site, even if this duplicates some parts of the navigation bar. Yes, but what should be here instead? Some info about what developer.gimp.org is? That's fine for me. There are only a few requirements that I would like to put on the design: - It should be clean XHTML 1.0 (or at least HTML 4.01). It looks like this is already the case. - The page design should not include too many images or complex (D)HTML stuff. Again, it looks like this is fine already. - There should be some kind of revision control system (such as CVS) for the contents of the pages. This reduces potential problems if there is more than one webmaster for the pages. - For those editing the pages, the contents should be clearly separated from the template. This means that all source files should only contain the body of the pages (without header, footer or navigation bar) and some build system should be able to apply the template to these source files to generate the final HTML pages. (*) - The source files (under revision control) and generated files should be in different directories. Ideally, it should be possible to rebuild everything by typing make in the source directory. - The generated HTML files should be static: no server-side includes, PHP, Perl or other fancy stuff that would put additional requirements on the server. - It should be possible to integrate some pages that are not using the same templates. This will be useful for the documentation pages generated by gtk-doc. All this is no problem at all. The big problem in this case would be the CVS stuff for the developer.gimp.org, I don't have knowledge enough to create a CVS-server for the site. Any ideas? So if this is fine for you, then I would be happy to work together with you on the update of the developers' site. That is great, I would be more then happy to work with the design. Regards, -- Niklas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-web] Re: [Gimp-developer] http://developer.gimp.org/
Hi, On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 19:15, Raphaël Quinet wrote: Anyway, I have a question about the design that you (Niklas) are proposing: did you use a set of scripts to add the template (header, footer, menu) around the page contents, or is every page created by hand? The page is created by hand. And I am trying to make some changes in the include files to make it easier to validate and also easier to understand. (I hope). So there will be a temp.html file for you to look at. Is the editing done at the HTML level, or do you use some tools to generate all or parts of the page from a different markup language or from a simpler version of the HTML code? It is all HTML but this is also XHTML strict so the content of the site uses div/div and p/p for the main content, the rest of the structures are in the css file. So this is more XHTML then HTML. This makes the site beutiful to work with. :) div class=aclassThis is a title/div p Here we have some info /p That is all sort of. But then again this depends a lot on what you want the file to include. Regards, -- Niklas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] storke selection?
sön 2003-12-28 klockan 22.35 skrev Gezim Hoxha: Hi guys/girls, I'm really frustrated with the storke tool in gimp 1.3.23, and I hope it's because of my ignorance. Almost all selections (except rectangular ones) turn out really ugly when storked...here is an example with a circle http://www.geocities.com/hgezim/stroke.html Please help me out. Thanks in advance, Gezim p.s.: I also tried it with the paint brush but the results were not better. Hello, There are many ways to make a stroke to the selection. First one is the way to use Stroke selection. The other one is: 1. Make a selection. 2. Fill it with the color you want the border to be 3. Go image-Selection-Shrink and in that dialog shrink with the 1px if the border is going to be 1px in size. 4. Ctrl+K or image-Edit-Clear This will clear the rest of the color out in the middle of the selection and you should have a border. Don't know if this is what you want though. Regards, -- Niklas Mattisson scizzoNOSPAM-at-sector7-dot-nu ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] GIMPCon 2004 in Norway
Hello gimp lists, We are getting close to have the GIMPCon 2004 in Norway and I would like to say that I am going to GIMPCon, at the same time I would like to ask who else is going to Norway? So now to the point of this mail. It would be good if we could have a small meeting conserning the website(s) at GIMPCon. This would help alot now when the websites are being worked on really hard. At the moment I haven't had time to setup any list of things we should discuss but it would be really good to have this kind of meeting now. To my questions then: Who will attend at the meeting? Any suggestions from the outside about problems conserning the website? I hope this mail is at least a little informative and that people will join us at GIMPCon. I will later create a little list on my own about things that I find would be good to discuss at the conference and then announce it here on this list. Regards, -- Niklas Mattisson scizzoNOSPAM-at-sector7-dot-nu ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Getting Involved section on new site
Hey all, It seems like there is a lot of questions about how we should structure the Getting Involved section and I would like to make a few things clear here and also prupose a little structure. - We should use the existing file that contains the changelog updates and such things. - The image. I like it though it takes a lot of place on the site. Do the developers want it there or do you think that it might be a little to much? - IMHO I would remove the Important URLs parts and move this to Links well the once that is not in the Links section at least. - Important GIMP Development URLs is important and I would like this to stay where it is. OK here goes a little structure: - Getting Involved |-- How can I help? |-- How Tos(If we have any?) |-- What is going on '-- Links (OS specific help pages) This might be small but still it would not be much to change if we build it like this for now. This can change later also depending what the developers want the site to contain. What do the developers want the site section to look like and is there anything that I have missed above? I would like to have some discussions about this because it is important to make this section understandable and useful for new people who wants to help with GIMP. So please add comments. Best regards, -- Niklas Mattisson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Path tutorials
Hello everyone, Today I uploaded a new update of my website. The updates might not be big but at least they should do some help. There has been questions about Path Tutorials both on the developers list and the user list, so I thought I might give it a try. Right now I have two tutorial for the GIMP 2.0 paths and they are located at: http://scizzo.gimp.org/gimp/Paths_Basics/ http://scizzo.gimp.org/gimp/Paths_Basics2/ In the second one I have also added a small section that explains some of the new things included in the stroke dialog which I have had a lot of help with from all of the developers. Thank you for helping me do the tutorials and don't be afraid to send me feedback on them. Regards, -- Niklas Mattisson scizzoNOSPAM-at-gimp-dot-org ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2 preperations for our 1st release
tis 2004-02-03 klockan 11.02 skrev Roman Joost: We're going to make a first release of the gimp-help-2. I want to inform the authors, to have a look over their written content and make sure, that the release will not include major spelling or grammar errors. The freeze of the sources will be on next wednesday the 11th. Hopefully, this release will get some more attention of writing content and fixing tiny errors for the manual. So, keep up the good work and let me know if there are any problems regarding the release. Greetings, Hey, I will actually have problems getting the Swedish translation done before next wednesday. I have had so much in school at the moment and done so many other things at the same time that I have been kind of away of all the translations. However this weekend I will try to get more done at least most of the toolbox translations. Best regards, -- Niklas Mattisson scizzoNOSPAM-at-gimp-dot-org ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2 preperations for our 1st release
Hey again, Actually I have a few other things to remind everyone. * in src/toolbox/menu.xml the section about GIMP Online is still not translated that much. Not as far as I can see at least. That is translated and updated after I did the move of the object. * src/toolbox/tool-*.xml should change the line Tool Call to something else. This is not correct english and I can't seem to find good translation for the words either. The fact is that I have tried in a irc channel where there is a lot of translators and they said that I should bugreport this because it is not correct, and I agree with them that it sounds weird. Those are actually the main things I have been looking at right now. Hope that everyone understands what I am talking about. Regards, -- Niklas Mattisson scizzoNOSPAM-at-gimp-dot-org ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-help-2 preperations for our 1st release
Hi, After discussions on IRC I made the desition to make a bugreport about the problems with Tool Call for the docs. The report is located at: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133353 Also I talked to Sven and the others and according to Sven the word freeze is perhaps not well chosen. The release will be a pre release. But like roman said this release is here to get people more interested to start working harder with the docs and to get tests done. Best regards, -- Niklas Mattisson scizzoNOSPAM-at-gimp-dot-org ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] A few website ideas
Hello lists, So its been a little while since the GimpCon was and I was hoping to put my ideas together a little better then I have them now but I will try to explain the ideas that I have as good as possible. New things: * User-FAQ - This needs to be added to the website as soon as possible. I do not think we have problems with questions but problems with how to design the FAQ. However at the moment I think it would be really good to clean the old old FAQ and add questions that reflects on 2.0. Rockwlrs and I spoke about this a little at GimpCon because I knew that he has been working with the questions before. * Documentation - Is needed to provide users and developers with the new documentation, we also need to have the different languages on the website. This should be able to be done by using some sort of script or buildsystem for the documentation. Anyone that has any good ideas about how to do this in a really good way so that we can update it easily? And so that the languages gets updated also? Maybe be able to update language by language also? Website style: --- * Hidding submenus - The menu is starting to grow and it would be good to make it hide some of the submenus. As soon as you enter the main section of the link you click on, the submenus will appear. This might help a little in improving the view also to where you are in the menu. This idea also gives us a little problem, the menus need to be named in a way that is understandable and straightforward to the user. Example: Documentation '- Tutorials Having Documentation as the main section name is not really telling me that here you can get a lot of different help instead it is telling me that here you will find some cool documentation. But if we name it: Help |- Documentation '- Tutorials It should say that quot;here you can get some helpquot;. Maybe I am wrong, but this is some of the things I am looking at right now. The ideas above are only some of the things that I am looking at right now, but they are the major big parts that I would like to see more discussions about on the lists. Take a look at the ideas and give me and the others on the gimp-web list some feedback. And remember..they are ideas to improve and help. Regards, -- Niklas Mattisson scizzoNOSPAM-at-gimp-dot-org ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Website updates for 2.2 release
Hello everyone, So time has come to start thinking about the information provided on the website before the 2.2 release is out. The first thing that is needed is some information on how to update from 2.0 to 2.2 and how to have 2.0 and 2.2(-preX) installed side-by-side. This is a great time for everyone that wants to help with the website to come forward and help. If you are interested then join the gimp-web list and help to start discussions and even help with the information on the website. As all may understand what the main reason is for the updates is to keep up-to-date with the application itself and so we need to start thinking about making 2.0 information into 2.2. At the moment I do not have a list of TODOs but I am sure with this mail that we all can start discussing the different places that needs updating and what would be good to add to the site. Right now we just need to start thinking about the information that needs updating and not adding new sections etc. So please come with ideas and help us to get a even better website then it was before. Regards, -- Niklas Mattisson scizzoNOSPAM-at-gimp-dot-org ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Not quiting just changing status
Hello GIMP developers/users, I have had some time to think now and it seems that maybe I should not be incharge of the website. The reasons for this is as follows: * My work takes a lot of my time, sometimes I am not home until 22:00 swedish time. This makes it hard to actually sit and do something at the computer after work hours. * I have been away for to long and am not really taking care of things enough to make the site grow as it should by this time. Yes, I made promises and have tried to keep them, but I never thought that my work would be like this. * I have to many other things going on around me right now that takes up my time and I do not want that to affect the websites development. Instead I would like the site to grow, and for that reason there needs to be a stronger person than me and more flexible that can handle the site. I am not reassigning right now. And I am not telling you that I won't be able to help with the site, instead I would like to be a contributer to the website and help at the areas that I know. But having the website as the responsibility is not really good for me or for the users. To be really honest...I don't think I am technical enough for this kind of responsibility. I will keep looking at things until a final decision has been made about who can take over this task. I'm sorry that this should happen right now. But like I said...I can help...but not be responsible. Best regards, -- Niklas Mattisson ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
