Re: [Gimp-developer] Finding out what happens when compositing layers

2011-09-16 Thread David Gowers (kampu)
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Ofnuts ofn...@laposte.net wrote: ** On 09/16/2011 02:20 AM, David Gowers (kampu) wrote: In GEGL, the layer mode code is autogenerated from formula strings -- see operations/generated/math.rb The opacity behaviour is not documented there, but my

Re: [Gimp-developer] Finding out what happens when compositing layers

2011-09-15 Thread David Gowers (kampu)
In GEGL, the layer mode code is autogenerated from formula strings -- see operations/generated/math.rb The opacity behaviour is not documented there, but my understanding is that the alpha of the underlying composite is preserved, and opacity only effects how much of the layer's COLOR channels

Re: [Gimp-developer] Tab in Single Window-Mode

2011-08-15 Thread David Gowers (kampu)
I thought we had cycling by some means.. AH, yes. Alt+Tab. Also, Alt+[123456789] works to switch to a particular tab, in a similar way to tabs in Firefox. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gsoc 2011] Unified transformation tool

2011-03-27 Thread David Gowers (kampu)
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Mohit _ mtan.n...@gmail.com wrote: David, Thanks for the reply, but in the case of undo group, are the sub components of that group still saved individually in some sort of stack or are there different stacks for the group, and one general stack for all the

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gsoc 2011] Unified transformation tool

2011-03-26 Thread David Gowers (kampu)
Hello, On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Mohit _ mtan.n...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, In the undo section it is mentioned that until the final pixel recalculation is done user should be able to undo every single step, though after that user should be able to undo the aggregate transformation only.

Re: [Gimp-developer] GSoC 2011

2011-03-20 Thread David Gowers (kampu)
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Ashok1288 asok1...@gmail.com wrote @Alexandre Prokoudine Actually I was referring about the algorithm (Existing in current GIMP Versions) to get familiar with... Do you mean the heal tool? app/tools/gimphealtool.* app/paint/gimpheal.* are where you should

Re: [Gimp-developer] X stuck on to start of all libtool options...

2011-01-11 Thread David Gowers (kampu)
Conclusion: The issue was, I had somehow managed to install a copy of the various autotools in /usr/local/ and they were being used instead of the ones in /usr/. My solution was simply to delete those binaries. GIMP is now happily compiling :) ___

Re: [Gimp-developer] X stuck on to start of all libtool options...

2011-01-09 Thread David Gowers (kampu)
Looks like this is the actual issue: After removing 'configure', it's apparent that 'autogen.sh' doesn't regenerate it, instead giving ambiguous errors/warnings.. For anyone else's reference, this occurs with autoconf 2.68 automake 1.9.6 + 1.11.1 glib 2.26.1 gtk 2.22.1 output log of

Re: [Gimp-developer] X stuck on to start of all libtool options...

2011-01-09 Thread David Gowers (kampu)
'export ACLOCAL_FLAGS=-I\ /usr/share/aclocal' before running the './autogen.sh --prefix=/usr', solves the problem. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer

Re: [Gimp-developer] X stuck on to start of all libtool options...

2011-01-09 Thread David Gowers (kampu)
actually no, it only allows the autogen to complete successfully, silliness like: /bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CC --mode=link gcc -Os -Wall -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wmissing-prototypes -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Winit-self -Wpointer-arith -Wold-style-definition

Re: [Gimp-developer] X stuck on to start of all libtool options...

2011-01-09 Thread David Gowers (kampu)
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Liam R E Quin l...@holoweb.net wrote: On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 09:59 +1030, David Gowers (kampu) wrote: actually no, it only allows the autogen to complete successfully, silliness like: [...] ../libtool: line 869: X--tag=CC: command not found http://openmoko

Re: [Gimp-developer] X stuck on to start of all libtool options...

2011-01-09 Thread David Gowers (kampu)
I've just tried compiling BABL, with similar results. compiling GLib says, point blank, You must have libtool = 2.2 installed to compile GLib. Install the appropriate package for your distribution, or get the source tarball at http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/libtool/ so, it looks like recent Arch

[Gimp-developer] X stuck on to start of all libtool options...

2011-01-08 Thread David Gowers (kampu)
Hi, After running './autogen.sh --prefix=/usr' then './configure --prefix=/usr', when I run 'make' on git HEAD (7057487...), the libtool options/execution seem to get mangled in a strange way: make all-recursive make[1]: Entering directory `/home/ion/dihinai/st/xra/gimp' Making all in

Re: [Gimp-developer] Dropping Scheme with gimp 2.8?

2010-12-16 Thread David Gowers (kampu)
IIRC there was some discussion of this idea - script-fu ending up as an independent plugin rather than one maintained within the GIMP code base. Basically, script-fu ending up in the position that PyGimp has been in -- an optional extra rather than part of the core installation. That's the idea.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Cage transform questions

2010-11-06 Thread David Gowers (kampu)
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Rob Antonishen rob.antonis...@gmail.com wrote: Another 'bug' is that the cage tool doesn't work on indexed images.  Not that I would expect it to.  Can it be disabled for indexed images? Doesn't work how? It works for me.. just not 100% like I want it to. (ie.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Cage transform questions

2010-11-06 Thread David Gowers (kampu)
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 2:45 AM, Rob Antonishen rob.antonis...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't work how? It works for me.. just not 100% like I want it to. (ie. interpolation is not helpful). I'm using git master (31aa09a11f2a2486c4cf9ab69104019d97c1d68a) I just did a pull make/make install.  I

[Gimp-developer] Cage transform questions

2010-11-05 Thread David Gowers (kampu)
Hi, I've just been trying out the cage tool (recently merged into GIT head) I really like that I can just sketch up something like http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/neota/tech/1.png and gooily bend it into something like: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/neota/tech/2.png I have two

Re: [Gimp-developer] Cage transform questions

2010-11-05 Thread David Gowers (kampu)
Also (should I file a bug report for these?) * Frequently, when closing the cage by clicking on the first point, the point that was just placed ends up next to the first one * When =1 point is outside image bounds, pixels outside the resultant shape become black (regardless of the current BG

[Gimp-developer] Indexization seems to be broken

2010-11-01 Thread David Gowers (kampu)
Just messing around with GIT head, I found that indexized images appear to be displayed in grayscale (ie as pure index-values rather than colors.)* Hopefully this is an intentional temporary measure and not an accidentally caused bug. * saving an image and then reloading it makes it display

Re: [Gimp-developer] Detecting closure of selection

2010-10-09 Thread David Gowers (kampu)
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Ofnuts ofn...@laposte.net wrote:  Assume I have a selection on small area (for instance a 20px circle), and I invert it. Now, if I grow the selection by a sufficient amount (10px in this case), everything gets selected. Is there a practical, fast way, to

Re: [Gimp-developer] Dummy Layer with particular dynamic effect

2010-08-29 Thread David Gowers
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Jacopo Corzani corz...@gmail.com wrote: Well, adjustment layers is what GIMP developers seem to refer to as layer abuse :) There are different ways to implement non-destructive editing. Would you be interested to find out more? Alexandre Prokoudine

Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting new layer modes fit for inclusion

2010-08-24 Thread David Gowers
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 6:41 AM, Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org wrote: Hi, On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 02:52 +0200, Rupert Weber wrote: The patch is here. Now, and it works. The conversions add 17k of code. Once GEGL takes over, they'll simply removed again. No one gets hurt. Well, the problem with

[Gimp-developer] Getting new layer modes fit for inclusion

2010-08-23 Thread David Gowers
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Rupert Weber g...@leguanease.org wrote: On 08/22/2010 02:45 PM, Sven Neumann wrote: New code in GIMP should use babl for pixel format conversion. There's no need to introduce new API for that as we have babl which is available to the core and plug-ins and

Re: [Gimp-developer] new layer modes patch posted

2010-08-15 Thread David Gowers
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 3:22 AM, Rupert Weber g...@leguanease.org wrote: I posted a new version (v3) of the layer modes patch (split in two) to        http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325564 The libgimp functions and the layer mode stuff are each in a separate patch now. [The

Re: [Gimp-developer] layer modes - open questions

2010-08-15 Thread David Gowers
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Rupert Weber g...@leguanease.org wrote: There are still some issues that I either blissfully ignored or took the least-cost route on: (3) paint-funcs layer modes Is the layer mode code in app/paint-funcs ever used? grepping the entire codebase only lists

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.7.3 Performance

2010-08-11 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:24 AM, Alexia Death alexiade...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, August 11, 2010 06:04:36 David Gowers wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:12 PM, David Gowers 00a...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:25 AM, GSR - FR fam...@infernal-iceberg.com wrote: GIMP

Re: [Gimp-developer] Usability of menus (search, gegl ops, ...)

2010-08-10 Thread David Gowers
, David Gowers 00a...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 6:21 AM, LightningIsMyName lightningismyn...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I recently re-read all the GSoC suggestions for 2010, and I found this interesting one about making the menus searchable: https://sites.google.com/site/gimpwiki

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.7.3 Performance

2010-08-10 Thread David Gowers
In view of what Alexia just said: Your problem is interesting, because its contrary to what I would expect and experience myself. For me GIT version performs about twice as good as 2.6, especially with large brushes, and thats with compositing on. To get the 25px round brush to lag at all I have

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.7.3 Performance

2010-08-10 Thread David Gowers
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:25 AM, GSR - FR fam...@infernal-iceberg.com wrote: Hi, 00a...@gmail.com (2010-08-11 at 0928.56 +0930): I found myself, that redraws in paint programs were intolerably slow until I added the Here it was general. GIMP's interface took a couple of seconds to redraw,

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.7.3 Performance

2010-08-10 Thread David Gowers
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:12 PM, David Gowers 00a...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:25 AM, GSR - FR fam...@infernal-iceberg.com wrote: GIMP is a jerk (I get cases where I draw a curve and the middle of it gets flattened into a straight line); But I haven't been painting

Re: [Gimp-developer] Usability of menus (search, gegl ops, ...)

2010-08-09 Thread David Gowers
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 6:21 AM, LightningIsMyName lightningismyn...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I recently re-read all the GSoC suggestions for 2010, and I found this interesting one about making the menus searchable: https://sites.google.com/site/gimpwiki/long-term-plans/menu-accesibility As

Re: [Gimp-developer] Please fix Color and/or Value transfer mode

2010-07-28 Thread David Gowers
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Charlie De charlieco...@yahoo.com wrote: Since we released stable  versions with this broken behavior we now have to maintain backward  compatibility to it. It is considered very important that you can open your  old XCF files in a new version of GIMP and get

Re: [Gimp-developer] Please fix Color and/or Value transfer mode

2010-07-28 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:28 AM, Liam R E Quin l...@holoweb.net wrote: Having said all that... I'd wondered myself why that photoshop trick of blurring a layer in mode colour didn't work well in gimp, but I don't know that this means gimp is wrong here. The right answer is to work out what

Re: [Gimp-developer] about getting involved in developing Gimp

2010-07-22 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Joao S. O. Bueno gwid...@mpc.com.br wrote: On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:43 AM, Michael Grosberg grosberg.mich...@gmail.com wrote: xianghang liu xianghangliu at gmail.com writes: Hi, I am very interested GIMP and want to join the Gimp project as C developer. I

Re: [Gimp-developer] Question about tools (and other) icons in GIMP.

2010-07-14 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Эллина Петухова ellinestu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everybody. I want to sorry for my English because it's not my native language and i am not familiar with it. Also i am not a serious developer so if i talk something wrong or even bother you please tell me

Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

2010-04-09 Thread David Gowers
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 6:51 PM, LightningIsMyName lightningismyn...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Tor, I forgot to include the actual sources with my build (they were way to big and I forgot I had to do this), so I removed my build. Thanks for reminding me =) Did you modify the GIMP source? If not,

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIT crash changing gradient

2010-03-22 Thread David Gowers
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:42 AM, Michael J. Hammel wrote: I ran into a bug that causes a crash while working out of git.  I didn't see it in Bugzilla.  It's easy to reproduce: 1. Choose Gradient Tool

Re: [Gimp-developer] Wrong font size

2010-03-15 Thread David Gowers
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 11:20 AM, bruno brunomend...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am web designer and I trying Gimp 2.6.8 in Debian Lenny (2.6.26-2) and Ubuntu Karmic (2.6.31-14). I found that, when I set font size to X pixels, Gimp converts it into wrong size, i.e. 16 px at 72 ppi are 12 px,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Adding ability to reverse curves dialog

2010-03-09 Thread David Gowers
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Jay Smith j...@jaysmith.com wrote: On 03/09/2010 04:39 PM, Jon Senior wrote: On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:30:58 -0500 Jay Smith j...@jaysmith.com wrote: I am not sure where the standard that you mention comes from.  I had never seen black at bottom left (by

Re: [Gimp-developer] enhancement: warnings instead of fatal error for duplicate calls to gimp_env_init (David Gowers)

2010-03-05 Thread David Gowers
On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 08:01 -0500, lloyd konneker wrote: I agree with Joao S. O. Bueno and disagree with David Bowers. Well, I'm glad you don't disagree with me, but who is that? Its better to make plugins meet the normal expectations of Python programmers (you can import any Python file to

Re: [Gimp-developer] enhancement: warnings instead of fatal error for duplicate calls to gimp_env_init

2010-03-03 Thread David Gowers
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Joao S. O. Bueno gwid...@mpc.com.br wrote: On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org wrote: On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 08:01 -0500, lloyd konneker wrote: I wonder if importing a plug-in from another plug-in is really something that we want to

Re: [Gimp-developer] moving windows in the git version

2010-02-17 Thread David Gowers
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Olivier oleca...@gmail.com wrote: For several weeks now (I compile the git version every Monday), the windows in normal mode (i.e. multi-window mode) behave in a weird way: I place them where I want them on one virtual screen, and then I move to another one

Re: [Gimp-developer] paint dynamics

2010-02-16 Thread David Gowers
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 8:24 AM, LightningIsMyName lightningismyn...@gmail.com wrote: Hello On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Alexia Death alexiade...@gmail.com wrote: 2. The painting of the matrix as showed in the specifications seems very hard, and I doubt it worths it. We can easily

Re: [Gimp-developer] Color management dataflow [was: Color management (UI perspective for GIMP 2.8)]

2010-02-13 Thread David Gowers
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Jon Cruz j...@joncruz.org wrote: However, the answer to the base question is Yes, X and Gtk support that to a very good degree, and all the low-level API's support delivering all the required information. and No, X does nothing with the colorspaces. It is left

Re: [Gimp-developer] Color management (UI perspective for GIMP 2.8)

2010-02-12 Thread David Gowers
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 8:59 AM, SHIRAKAWA Akira shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: On 2010-02-09 19:52, Martin Nordholts wrote: GIMP is nearly flawless in its color handling, but there is one problem. It forgets to convert copy and pasted image content. Also don't forget that the various color

[Gimp-developer] TAB in single-window mode

2010-02-05 Thread David Gowers
I decided I couldn't quite submit a gimp-brainstorm item with this little content: TAB normally toggles the visibility of the docks, including toolbox. In single window mode it doesn't (and IMO it would be good if it did -- single non-fullscreen window is a lot more cooperative with other app

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.8 schedule

2010-01-12 Thread David Gowers
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/11/10, Martin Nordholts wrote: Then the ETA of GIMP 2.8 becomes 2010-12-02 which is more reasonable. And still somewhat scary :) The plan however does not seem to mention Python scripting

Re: [Gimp-developer] PF_FILE of the register function in python plugins with 'new file' support (Scott)

2010-01-12 Thread David Gowers
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Mathias Lindner mathias.lind...@web.de wrote: My way around this was to use a PF_DIRNAME immediately above the PF_STRING and combining them for the total path. Ah, thank you very much. I wasn't aware of PF_DIRNAME. It's missing in the GIMP Python docs. This

[Gimp-developer] gtk-doc 1.13 problem with recent gimp git (+solution)

2010-01-06 Thread David Gowers
Recently I found that GIMP from git would not compile, as it couldn't get past the ./autogen.sh step.. It would produce quite a few errors, like this: gtk-doc.make:53: GTK_DOC_BUILD_HTML does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL devel-docs/app/Makefile.am:116: `gtk-doc.make' included from here

Re: [Gimp-developer] new brainstorm...

2009-12-17 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:25 AM, peter sikking pe...@mmiworks.net wrote: guys, I have pushed into service something that I brainstormed (no pun intended) ages ago with Roman Joost: a brainstorm where anybody can contribute a tip-of-the-day for GIMP: http://gimp-totd.blogspot.com/ I

Re: [Gimp-developer] Making dockable tab style a global setting

2009-12-07 Thread David Gowers
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com wrote: GSR - FR wrote: Hi, ense...@gmail.com (2009-12-05 at 1330.57 +0100): I don't understand who would want a UI where tabs doesn't have the same style, what a mess I use icons for things that have true info in

Re: [Gimp-developer] Airbrush/Brush Banding Effect At Low Pressure/Opacity

2009-11-18 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:17 AM, James Cox jay...@gimp.org wrote: Christopher Howard wrote: Thinking about this some more, the error diffusion is probably not even necessary.  You should be able to get by with some random dithering like the following (if it wasn't slower than molasses):  

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re branding ....

2009-10-31 Thread David Gowers
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 2:12 PM, vabijou2 vabi...@yahoo.com wrote: Christopher Howard-3 wrote: Its about having a product you aren't afraid to advertise. . As soon as I say GIMP, you can see the doubt on their faces, because they associate the word with being weak or lame. I agree

Re: [Gimp-developer] The name Gimp

2009-10-30 Thread David Gowers
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Brendan mailingl...@endosquid.com wrote: On Thursday 29 October 2009, you wrote: On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Brendan mailingl...@endosquid.com wrote: All the above comprise a significant factor in why forks are regarded, at best, as a necessary evil. All

Re: [Gimp-developer] The name Gimp

2009-10-30 Thread David Gowers
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Christopher Howard chow...@indicium.us wrote: Alexia Death wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:40 PM, David Gowers 00a...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Brendan mailingl...@endosquid.com wrote: A list of files that would need modification

Re: [Gimp-developer] ceci n'est pas une selection...

2009-10-30 Thread David Gowers
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:59 AM, peter sikking pe...@mmiworks.net wrote: guys, would like to tap the wisdom of this crowd here. say I have made a selection in GIMP, done what needed to be done to the pixels in the selection and now want to get rid of the selection. the obvious way is

Re: [Gimp-developer] ceci n'est pas une selection...

2009-10-30 Thread David Gowers
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Liam R E Quin l...@holoweb.net wrote: On Sat, 2009-10-31 at 01:29 +0100, peter sikking wrote: the obvious way is Select-None. how many more ways are there? Save the image as png, quit gimp and restart. :D go to channels dialogue, make an empty channel,

Re: [Gimp-developer] The name Gimp

2009-10-28 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:35 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: Worse, I seem to recall the Gimp mascot being referred to as a gimp in multiple occasions on the website. You got it wrong. Mascot's name is Wilber and he thinks you should apologize. No, John is

Re: [Gimp-developer] The name Gimp

2009-10-28 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Christopher Howard chow...@indicium.us wrote: John B wrote: Well, if it's out of the question, then I guess I'll just shut up before this becomes a big argument. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list

Re: [Gimp-developer] The name Gimp

2009-10-28 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:41 AM, vabijou2 vabi...@yahoo.com wrote: So just because some old farts in Scotland may have good associations with the word, you think that renders the rest of the English-speaking world's interpretation silly?  %-| Personally, I think the question you just asks

Re: [Gimp-developer] The name Gimp

2009-10-28 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Christopher Howard chow...@indicium.us wrote: Stephen Griffiths wrote: When I mentioned forking the project I wasn't thinking of having a version of GIMP out there that was actually following a fully separate development path with a bunch of disgrunted GIMP

Re: [Gimp-developer] The name Gimp

2009-10-28 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Brendan mailingl...@endosquid.com wrote: All the above comprise a significant factor in why forks are regarded, at best, as a necessary evil. All forks dilute branding, which introduces user confusion and repels potential users. I think it's incorrect to say

Re: [Gimp-developer] The name Gimp

2009-10-28 Thread David Gowers
Incidentally, I like Stephen's 'Wilber/ Wilber Image Editor' suggestion (in another related thread). I'm envisioning someone using the latest GIT version because they *have* to be up-to-date with the newest stuff, the program crashing and destroying their work, and they cry 'No!

Re: [Gimp-developer] single-window fix and WMs

2009-10-24 Thread David Gowers
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Ilya Zakharevich nospam-ab...@ilyaz.org wrote: On 2009-10-21, Karl Günter Wünsch k...@mineralien-verkauf.de wrote: IMHO the move to a single image window with dockables would solve quite a lot of interoperability problems. For example there are plenty of

Re: [Gimp-developer] Icons for layer modes

2009-10-23 Thread David Gowers
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Ilya Zakharevich nospam-ab...@ilyaz.org wrote: On 2009-10-21, yahvuu yah...@gmail.com wrote: The analogy was given to show why the the current interface to blending (i.e. choosing among a discrete set of layer modes) is a poor one: And my message was intended

Re: [Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-22 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Alexia Death alexiade...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Ilya Zakharevich nospam-ab...@ilyaz.org wrote: I can see how a John Do can blame GIMP for GTK+ issues, but I don't see why GIMP developers should bother about John Do's misconceptions

Re: [Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-20 Thread David Gowers
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Ilya Zakharevich nospam-ab...@ilyaz.org wrote: On 2009-10-21, Tor Lillqvist t...@iki.fi wrote: It is pointless to describe the misbehaviour of GIMP windows on Windows to GIMP developers, as they don't use Windows themselves. Let me restate it:  it is

Re: [Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-20 Thread David Gowers
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Ilya Zakharevich nospam-ab...@ilyaz.org wrote: On 2009-10-02, peter sikking pe...@mmiworks.net wrote: However, I do not see how much this would affect the (AFAIK) main complaint about multi-window GIMP: that having several windows with several possibilities of

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

2009-09-20 Thread David Gowers
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 8:30 PM, jolie S for...@gimpusers.com wrote: Also I've slept on it and given it some more thought and I'd like to ask again if you would please give having multiple images open at the same time some more thought. IMO being able to work on more images at the same time is

Re: [Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8

2009-09-20 Thread David Gowers
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Liam R E Quin l...@holoweb.net wrote: On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 20:51 +0930, David Gowers wrote: Perhaps a split-panel option for single window mode would resolve this. (I believe we could still only reasonably show a maximum of 2 images at once; this is simply

Re: [Gimp-developer] Bug #164774

2009-09-13 Thread David Gowers
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:54 PM, peter sikking pe...@mmiworks.net wrote: second try sending this... Liam wrote: On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 00:00 +0200, peter sikking wrote: [///] grab the top-left square where the 2 rulers cross and drag+drop it anywhere on the canvas. the place that currently

Re: [Gimp-developer] [PATCH] Improve brush outline for fuzzy brushes, sample screenshot included

2009-09-12 Thread David Gowers
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Rob Antonishen rob.antonis...@gmail.com wrote: Peter- To clarify, you are suggesting the on screen pointer icon/sprite could show the actual brush as it would look painted with a single mouse click, but once painting/holding the mouse down it would render as

Re: [Gimp-developer] Tags on presets.

2009-08-24 Thread David Gowers
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Martin Nordholtsense...@gmail.com wrote: I immediately thought of Akira Shirakawa's proposition to move a majority of paint tool options into the concept of brushes. IMO doing that and using the already existing tagging for brushes would simplify the user

Re: [Gimp-developer] Tags on presets.

2009-08-23 Thread David Gowers
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 5:06 AM, Martin Nordholtsense...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/22/2009 05:48 PM, Christophe Buffenoir wrote: Hello, I use the GPS set of presets and I think that tags system will be good on presets and not only on brushes. Nothing is done yet, the screens are just fakes to

Re: [Gimp-developer] Does Hue, Saturation, Value layer modes need HSV? How about CIE LCH instead?

2009-08-02 Thread David Gowers
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 7:49 PM, SHIRAKAWA Akira shirakawa.ak...@gmail.comwrote: Martin Nordholts wrote: Does anyone see any problems with using CIE LCH instead of HSV for these layer modes? We can ignore backwards compatibility issues for now. I very rarely use layer modes (and I'm not a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Does Hue, Saturation, Value layer modes need HSV? How about CIE LCH instead?

2009-08-02 Thread David Gowers
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com wrote: The input I've gotten so far removed any remaining doubt about porting those layer modes to LCH, so I've done that now: commit 18603ac192493296b191197a3e2b62c710398afd Author: Martin Nordholts mart...@src.gnome.org

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-28 Thread David Gowers
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Jason van Gumster ja...@handturkeystudios.com wrote: Sparr spa...@gmail.com wrote: Circle and Fuzzy Circle should be two brushes. I've been following this conversation with a bit of interest, but I've noticed that a lot of discussion has echoed this

Re: [Gimp-developer] Improved brush editing interface mock-up

2009-07-24 Thread David Gowers
I think this is a very good idea -- moving the 'different ways of painting' into brushes so that we don't need Paintbrush, Pencil, Airbrush but just one : 'Paintbrush'. I use GIMP mainly for pixel art, and I find that I really want the paintbrush/pencil/airbrush tool distinction to go away, so I

Re: [Gimp-developer] Improved brush editing interface mock-up

2009-07-24 Thread David Gowers
- Leave the old tool selection concept to the new taggable brush selection window With a new generic brush system in most of the brush behavior is described by the brush settings, it's possible to leave the old tool selection concept to the new (and possibly even more improved) taggable

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread David Gowers
2009/7/22 Fredrik Alströmer r...@excu.se On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 14:12, Alexandre Prokoudinealexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Sven Neumann wrote: Easy enough, just unset the 'global-brush' property. I am not sure though if that would make a good

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread David Gowers
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/22 David Gowers wrote: tools. When I think about it, I wonder whether such users ever get to using GIMP with any level of frequency or intensity, as IMO with the global-brush option off

Re: [Gimp-developer] How far away from watching other colorspaces in real time?

2009-07-22 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Martin Cracauer craca...@cons.org wrote: Martin Nordholts wrote on Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:40:06AM +0200: On 07/23/2009 12:27 AM, Martin Cracauer wrote: Do I understand that correctly that you will move to single-floats/color? [...] If you in the

Re: [Gimp-developer] New color mode

2009-06-28 Thread David Gowers
I'm pretty sure Emil refers to the Color drawing /layer mode and the way that it tends to 'burn out' colors -- the result of applying a colorization is often far more vivid than could reasonably be expected; Basically the same as the bug regarding improvement of Color mode cf. Photoshop. A few

Re: [Gimp-developer] Hacking GIMP - Gimp top level menu

2009-06-16 Thread David Gowers
toolrc On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Jordan Stinsonjordan.stinso...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the quick response. It looks like this will get me closer to what i'm actually after. When I use this method to add the hue saturation tool to the toolbox, it persists after I close gimp and

Re: [Gimp-developer] Toolbar should dock to screen edge

2009-06-15 Thread David Gowers
Hi peter, On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:34 PM, peter sikkingpe...@mmiworks.net wrote: maybe it is simply too early to spend effort on this. GIMP currently ships with a 6-column toolbox, (informally) kept that wide by the tool options. This gives you an edge speed-up for 1 in 6 tools. How? In all

Re: [Gimp-developer] [PATCH 1/4] Tile caching performance patches

2009-06-02 Thread David Gowers
I'd like to mention also that there are also some minor problems with whitespace i...@gbubuntu:~/st/gimp2/gimp$ git-am /tmp/0002*.patch Applying Add additional profiling to tile usage in order to analyze efficiency and behavior of the tile cache. Profiling includes run-time indication of idle

Re: [Gimp-developer] PyGIMP question: saving PNG and XCF versions of the same image

2009-05-29 Thread David Gowers
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Ryan Krauss ryanli...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks David.  I stumbled onto that solution just before I checked my email :) This does the trick of creating the file to go to PNG:     pdb.gimp_edit_copy_visible(img)     img2 = pdb.gimp_edit_paste_as_new() It does

Re: [Gimp-developer] PyGIMP question: saving PNG and XCF versions of the same image

2009-05-28 Thread David Gowers
Hello Ryan, On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Ryan Krauss ryanli...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Python Gimp question.  I don't know if it belongs on the user or developer list, but my feeling is that the people with the knowledge are more likely to read this list.  Let me know if this is the

Re: [Gimp-developer] enhancement for eraser/brush tools: resurrect erased/cleared

2009-05-26 Thread David Gowers
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Alchemie foto\grafiche fotocom...@yahoo.it wrote: How does this differ from the current anti erase tool option (quickly enabled also by holding Alt key)? Maybe does not differ BUT there is a Problem  there is not any documentation in the help on a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Please, Please Bring Back Old GIMP.

2009-05-25 Thread David Gowers
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Sue for...@gimpusers.com wrote: Hi GIMP Developers, I am a longtime GIMP fan, and I am highly disappointed with the Version 6.6 UI.  One thing I have always enjoyed about this program is the fact it was not like Photoshop, because I could multitask with other

Re: [Gimp-developer] Please, Please Bring Back Old GIMP.

2009-05-25 Thread David Gowers
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Sparr spa...@gmail.com wrote: I disagree with of course and naturally.  When I close [child/sub] windows[/tabs] in most applications, then reopen the [functionally] same window, I expect it to come back in the same state it was in when I closed it.  I regularly

Re: [Gimp-developer] Procedural call to undo?

2009-05-12 Thread David Gowers
Hi, On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:48 PM, David Hodson hods...@ozemail.com.au wrote: On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 12:57 -0700, Stuart Axon wrote: Even if you don't have undo as such, it would be useful from  a scripting point of view to save checkpoints, which you could revert to within the script.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Procedural call to undo?

2009-05-10 Thread David Gowers
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 9:37 PM, David Hodson hods...@ozemail.com.au wrote: I can find the functions in the pdb to manipulate the undo stack - is there a function call that just does an undo? No. Although this might conceivably change in the future as GIMP integrates GEGL. David

Re: [Gimp-developer] Procedural call to undo?

2009-05-10 Thread David Gowers
Hi David, On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:34 PM, David Hodson hods...@ozemail.com.au wrote: On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 22:03 +0930, David Gowers wrote: On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 9:37 PM, David Hodson hods...@ozemail.com.au wrote: I can find the functions in the pdb to manipulate the undo stack

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save + export spec essentials implemented

2009-05-07 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I have been working on implementing the Save + export spec [1] for a while. Since it will affect the workflow for basically everyone it would be nice with getting some testing and comments before we finalize, merge

Re: [Gimp-developer] Background color property for GIMP images

2009-04-30 Thread David Gowers
Hi Jon! On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Jon Senior j...@restlesslemon.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:01:08 +0930 David Gowers 00a...@gmail.com wrote: X could work almost unchanged (just, pressing X multiple times in quick succession would move back through the 5-slot color history

Re: [Gimp-developer] Background color property for GIMP images

2009-04-30 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:13 PM, yahvuu yah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, here's a mockup idea on your proposal; might or might not help to identify the current-previous color pair... just brainstorming. I hope you're not bothered i'm sending private mail - it's just i can't contribute

Re: [Gimp-developer] Background color property for GIMP images

2009-04-30 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Rob Antonishen rob.antonis...@gmail.com wrote: I just ran through my scripts. In the .scm files distributed with gimp, there were: 38 files containing gimp-context-set-foreground 65 files containing gimp-context-set-background The ones I have looked at,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Background color property for GIMP images

2009-04-29 Thread David Gowers
Hello, On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:37 PM, peter sikking wrote: guys, here is sort of a review of what has been discussed here: To take this top-down: I can only see this change as an UI improvement if

Re: [Gimp-developer] Background color property for GIMP images

2009-04-29 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Filipe Soares Dilly fil...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/29 peter sikking pe...@mmiworks.net but some crucial things depend on the bg color. the gradient tool being the big show-stopper for me. the tool needs a redesign, but up to then the fg-bg type of

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