Re: [Gimp-developer] Why GIMP is Inadequate

2011-01-13 Thread Tor Lillqvist
I think that someone of you that can replay to false things must post a replay. Why bother? There are lots of false things in the Internet. --tml ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU

Re: [Gimp-developer] Graphic Tablet Sponsoring

2010-11-24 Thread Tor Lillqvist
OK from me, of course. --tml ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer

Re: [Gimp-developer] IMPORTANT: GIMP AND OPENSOURCE SCAM ON EBAY!

2010-09-23 Thread Tor Lillqvist
As long as it seems clear that none of the actually affected parties (i.e. the people who hold the copyright to parts of GIMP and other (L)GPL-licensed bits bundled by the scammers) care about the alleged problem or would consider doing anything, this discussion is mostly pointless. --tml

Re: [Gimp-developer] IMPORTANT: GIMP AND OPENSOURCE SCAM ON EBAY!

2010-09-23 Thread Tor Lillqvist
selling the software on ebay. In my country (germany) some people do not have access to broadband internet and like to buy a CD of the software. GIMP has been relatively often distributed on CDs that come with relevant magazines, also in Germany. Very recently even, I know because some of these

Re: [Gimp-developer] IMPORTANT: GIMP AND OPENSOURCE SCAM ON EBAY!

2010-09-23 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Whether you have/had the authority to grant that permission is another question. I should note that nowadays such requests coming to me are for PSPI, not GIMP itself, as I haven't built and distributed any GIMP binaries in a long time. When they used to ask for permission to redistribute GIMP,

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP build from source code on Windows

2010-09-06 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Pls give me a hand to inform a right place (guide line) to  compile GIMP source code upon windows OS, It's much easier to cross-compile it from Linux. I suggest you use openSUSE and familiarzie yourself with the GIMP (and all dependencies) cross-compiled to Windows (both 32- and 64-bit)

Re: [Gimp-developer] Rotational Motion Blur

2010-08-18 Thread Tor Lillqvist
A motion blur is a retinal effect that has a time dependence. Is motion blur actually something people perceive with their eyes and brain, or something that only exists in physical artefacts? (Either intentionally created by an artist to give the impression of motion, or as an direct result of

Re: [Gimp-developer] Plugged-in tools

2010-07-31 Thread Tor Lillqvist
I think an IWarp tool would require mechanisms in GIMP that don't exist yet as none of the current tools, even if superficially similar (like the smudge tool) requires them. Also, the exact way an IWarp tool should behave should be specified before one starts coding on it;) Yeah, getting input on

Re: [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.7.1

2010-07-02 Thread Tor Lillqvist
 Tor, and what solution can you advice? File bugs with the respective maintainers to fix the problem? But yeah, that might take a while of course. So sure, if you know what you are doing, and you verify that it works, feel free to rename DLLs. But be aware then that telling about it might

Re: [Gimp-developer] Q: cygwin GIMP build problems: missing execinfo.h

2010-06-30 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Can anyone tell me the trick to building GIMP under cygwin (on Windows XP 64-bit). You really mean you are building for Cygwin, not Windows? My immediate problem is that the GEGL make fails because execinfo.h is not found. Well, most likely nobody has attempted to build GEGL for Cygwin

Re: [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.7.1

2010-06-30 Thread Tor Lillqvist
 after renaming some libraries (libintl-8 to intl, libpng14-14 to libpng12-0) everything went Ok Renaming DLLs is never a good idea. There might be a good reason why the name was changed - namely because the API and/or ABI has changed. --tml ___

Re: [Gimp-developer] Compiling GIMP for/on Windows (on Cygwin)

2010-04-30 Thread Tor Lillqvist
0. Have to use M$ Windows Don't bother writing M$, that is so last century.     way out: Use Cygwin. In what way is that a way out? You will still be using Windows... You should be aware that if you use Cygwin, and your intent is to build software for native Windows (software that doesn't

Re: [Gimp-developer] Testing on NULL an unitialized values

2010-04-23 Thread Tor Lillqvist
You are right, that in some seldom situations it might make sense to initialize values to other start values. But they should always be predictable. You didn't get the reasoning about letting the compiler, or valgrind, catch use of uninitialized variables, did you? The same is here:  a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Testing on NULL an unitialized values

2010-04-23 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Will the compiler stop execution on any warning? It should, and not compile any code that gives warnings, otherwise your attempt will not work. People will ignore it just for testing. That depends on the project. Many projects do use flags like -Werror, although that is not always possible.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Testing on NULL an unitialized values

2010-04-21 Thread Tor Lillqvist
The test   if( template ) makes only sense, if you can be sure that uninitialzed values will definitelky be NULL. You must have missed the g_return_val_if_fail (! template || GIMP_IS_CONTEXT (template), NULL) . It checks if template is NULL or a pointer to a valid GimpContext. If template is

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP and Python

2010-04-15 Thread Tor Lillqvist
It seems that you're talking Windows in this case. ;-) Frankly, it is a very bad thing when applications include a script language engine in their distribution that then is installed somewhere in a non- standard place on the platform. But what is the standard place for Python on Windows? And

Re: [Gimp-developer] Windows snapshot of 2.7 - possible?

2010-04-09 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Nothing personal, just a friendly reminder to people who distribute personal builds like this: Please note that even if you do it just temporarily on a small scale, you still need to follow the licenses, i.e.offer the sources for all GPL or LGPL code you distribute. You don't want to give anybody

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp - prolog interface

2009-12-08 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Thanks, I believe Python is the solution I was looking for. But if you really wanted to use Prolog, surely Python is quite far from that? Or is there some extension or whatever to Python that allows one to write Prolog-like clauses, a Python-hosted Prolog in a way? (Apparently, yes, there are

Re: [Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-24 Thread Tor Lillqvist
 In your educated guess, are the GIMP-vs-window-management problems:   1) bugs in the port of GTK+, or   2) are they inherent limitations of window properties model of      the interaction between an application and graphic system? Both;) The exact meaning of what in the X11 world is called

Re: [Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-23 Thread Tor Lillqvist
[ It's all about attitude. Saying Patches welcome is an unhelpful attitude. OK, so what about Feel free to ask for your money back? Or OK, I guess you have to use the competing products then? --tml ___ Gimp-developer mailing list

Re: [Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-21 Thread Tor Lillqvist
It was GIMP's decision to use GTK+, Well, d'oh! I wonder if you know what the G in GTK+ means? Yeah, they should have stayed with Motif, would have prevented the port to Windows and all the clueless whining that causes. --tml ___ Gimp-developer

Re: [Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-21 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Let me restate it:  it is pointless to fix bugs/problems on windows, since they do not  happen (and if they happen, developers do not want to see reports). No, not at all. Bug reports (in the proper place, i.e. bugzilla.gnome.org) are always welcome, especially if they describe specific error

Re: [Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-20 Thread Tor Lillqvist
2.6.6.  Tested on Windows. As has been said before, one should not think that the way GIMP's windows behave on Windows is how they are supposed to behave. There are bugs in GTK+ on Windows that affect GIMP. It is pointless to describe the misbehaviour of GIMP windows on Windows to GIMP

Re: [Gimp-developer] minimising

2009-09-30 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Please note that the behaviour of GIMP's windows on Windows is not necessarily as intended by the developers. The reference environment is using metacity as widnow manager on GNOME on Linux. You shouldn't infer anything about the developers' intentions from how GIMP's windows happen to behave on

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp printing future direction

2009-08-18 Thread Tor Lillqvist
I have tried all possible permutations of paper size between Gimp and the Windows driver.  Since this setup works great for all other applications (e.g. Word, IE, Firefox, etc.), I don't see how the problem could lie anywhere else than Gimp. (The problem is in GTK+ more likely, but that GTK+

Re: [Gimp-developer] Has anybody successfully built gimp with gtk+ 2.17.2 (mingw/windows)?

2009-08-14 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Between 2.17.2 and 2.17.3 the client-side-window branch was merged to master. What you see is very likely due to this. FWIW, not even gtk-demo built from git master head of GTK+ runs properly on Windows at this time. I don't see any crash, though, just screen updating failures (blank areas that

Re: [Gimp-developer] [wish] alignment rotation

2009-05-14 Thread Tor Lillqvist
It's a horrible trick. You would probably never guess if you weren't told how it works or read about it somewhere. So what? It wouldn't hurt anybody either. It would presumably be trivial to implement and it wouldn't require any new UI. --tml ___

Re: [Gimp-developer] Installing GIMP 2.6 to a computer that is NOT internet-accessible

2009-04-17 Thread Tor Lillqvist
I'm hoping somebody can help me with a GIMP problem. I want to install GIMP 2.6 on a computer that is NOT internet-accessible. And presumably, running Windows? I do not need, nor do I want all the added perks such as Weatherbug and PC Confidential. Huh? What are these and what do they have

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on a Commercial CD-Rom ?

2009-02-11 Thread Tor Lillqvist
The Linux kernel is also GLP [sic], but the majority of Linux CD distributions does not ship the source. Oh yes they do. Not on single-CD installation disks, but all Linux distros provide source package files for all Open Source packages they provide, from their own repositories. Usually the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp2.6.4 for ARM processor

2009-01-20 Thread Tor Lillqvist
i am trying to cross compile gegl-0.0.22 with command CC=arm-linux-gcc ./configure arm-linux --target=arm-linux When cross-compiling you should use --host, not --target, to specify the architecture the executables you are building will run on. --target is used when configuring compilers and

Re: [Gimp-developer] How to capture Gimp-log=dnd e vents on Windows? (re: Bug 561973 – Missi ng drag and drop target)

2008-11-26 Thread Tor Lillqvist
See the bug report for my comment. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=561973#c6 In short, it is a known fact that GTK+ on Windows doesn't implement generic inter-process drag-and-drop. Only accepting files dragged from Explorer onto GTK+ applications work, and dragging images from IE

Re: [Gimp-developer] RGB to YMCK conversion

2008-11-03 Thread Tor Lillqvist
all colors can be specified with light wavelength measures isn't that true? can't it be that instead of RGB color you say light color wavelength instead? Not at all. There are lots of coloursthat are not equivalent to that of visible light of some single wavelength. Just think of purple. The

Re: [Gimp-developer] Compiling LibOpenJPEG using MINGW/MSYS

2008-10-28 Thread Tor Lillqvist
What you need to do is to *port* the code to use what's available on Windows instead of the functionality declared in the missing header files. Of course, it is highly likely that a library like openjpeg intended to be generally usable and cross-platform already *is* portable to Windows. And

Re: [Gimp-developer] Compiling LibOpenJPEG using MINGW/MSYS

2008-10-28 Thread Tor Lillqvist
But openjpeg is far from complex I mean source code file and folder structure -wise. The algorithms and code in the source files is of course probably quite complex. But one doesn't need to dive into the actual code just to build the software. --tml

Re: [Gimp-developer] Compiling LibOpenJPEG using MINGW/MSYS

2008-10-28 Thread Tor Lillqvist
it was trivial to modify the Unix Makefile to work with mingw. Took some fifteen minutes. That said, as there already *are* official Windows binaries (including a DLL) of libopenjpeg available from the openjpeg.org site, why not use that instead of compiling an own build? My personal opinion

Re: [Gimp-developer] Compiling LibOpenJPEG using MINGW/MSYS

2008-10-27 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Anyone know where I can get a valid sys/resource.h sys/times.h ? On a Unix system of your choice. --tml ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer

Re: [Gimp-developer] Compiling LibOpenJPEG using MINGW/MSYS

2008-10-27 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Ok. I choose Cygwin, as it contains these files. Is this OK ? Sure, if you want to build code for Cygwin, but that has then nothing to do with the native Win32. My reply was perhaps a bit too terse, a failed attempt to be ironic. I've copied the files from this crappy system into my

Re: [Gimp-developer] (no subject)

2008-10-25 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Full cygwin development tree install. Please avoid Cygwin if you are building native Windows software. Cygwin is nice if you build Cygwin software, but presumably that is not what you are wanting to do, if you want to build plug-ins that work with the native Windows GIMP. (Yes, I do know that

Re: [Gimp-developer] Built-in help

2008-10-03 Thread Tor Lillqvist
As far as I know there is no GIO/win32 backend which supports http. Http is supported in libgio itself (using the winhttp API from winhttp.dll, which is looked up at run-time, so if you lack that, it won't work). See gio/win32/gwinhttp*.c. --tml ___

Re: [Gimp-developer] I want to help translating

2008-09-12 Thread Tor Lillqvist
I'd like to help with the translation of Gimp and especially the translation of the Windows version's menu entries and file context menu entries. I don't think there are many translated strings that would be Windows-specific in GIMP? Any file chooser ones might be in GTK+ and not GIMP. Where

Re: [Gimp-developer] I want to help translating

2008-09-12 Thread Tor Lillqvist
I don't think these things are in any po-files, but in separate files Ah, OK, now I understand which strings you mean. Yes, it would indeed be nice if these strings would also be translated, and if that would happen as part of the normal localisation process, i.e. if the strings were present in

Re: [Gimp-developer] All GIMP windows to top when one selected

2008-05-29 Thread Tor Lillqvist
That said, at least the gdk_window_set_keep_above() function can be tested with testgtk, and it seems to work. I may be wrong, but I remember that various users reported that it would not work on Windows. Is GIMP doing something differently than testgtk? (Pay attention to gdk vs. gtk

Re: [Gimp-developer] All GIMP windows to top when one selected

2008-05-28 Thread Tor Lillqvist
If you want to change the behaviour on Windows, then you should check how you can contribute to GTK+. This is where window-management related problems are supposed to be solved (for example, if the the always on top hint for docks would work, then one big problem would be solved already).

Re: [Gimp-developer] All GIMP windows to top when one selected

2008-05-28 Thread Tor Lillqvist
One problem in implementing window manager hints and related things correctly on Windows is the lack of exact specifications what they should do, and a lack of *minimal* sample programs that could be used to verify that the implementation is correct. That said, at least the

Re: [Gimp-developer] IWarp as a tool

2008-02-17 Thread Tor Lillqvist
On 16/02/2008, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, the tool class shouldn't do anything but providing the user interface. I now realize that the non-GUI code for a warp tool does not need to be very interesting or complicated. One could maybe even just use the existing displace plug-in

Re: [Gimp-developer] IWarp as a tool

2008-02-17 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Will we be able to do undo *between* the strokes ? * before Do it? * after Do it ? In other words, will the undo stack be updated after each stroke ? After Do it, yes, definitely. But before, that is a tough question. In my first patch (which is not good), each stroke is undoable,

Re: [Gimp-developer] IWarp as a tool

2008-02-15 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Unfortunately now that I have had time to think a bit harder, I understand that there is a fundamental difference in how my initial effort to implement a warp tool works compared to how the IWarp filter does. Basically, when using the IWarp filter, and manipulating the preview in its dialog,

Re: [Gimp-developer] IWarp as a tool

2008-02-15 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Do you really need to do it exactly the way the filter does it? From your description, I don't really understand why your current approach is less valid, or even why it will produce a significantly different result. It does produce a significantly different result. In my current code,

[Gimp-developer] IWarp as a tool

2008-02-12 Thread Tor Lillqvist
A first version is here: http://tml.pp.fi/gimpwarp.diff . Diff against current SVN. Known problems: - reuses the smudge icon and cursor - the remove warp functionality doesn't do anything - the bilinear filtering and adaptive supersampling toggles have no effect - especially in the Move mode you

Re: [Gimp-developer] MIDI input controllers on Windows.

2008-01-21 Thread Tor Lillqvist
I managed to get the Direct X input controller working with my Joystick. The buttons trigger various things OK, but I can't get the Z Axis to control sliders (the paint brush radius for example). Might be something I've misunderstood about the setup though. It might also be just because of

Re: [Gimp-developer] Compiling denoise plug-in

2007-12-24 Thread Tor Lillqvist
I downloaded and tried to compile Roland Simmen's DeNoise plug-in. It only comes with source files, no Makefile, no configure to make the Makefile. gimptool-2.0 doesn't seem to like multiple *.c source files. Well, I don't know anything about DeNoise in particular, but have you tried then

Re: [Gimp-developer] Compiling plugin for windows

2007-11-13 Thread Tor Lillqvist
On 13/11/2007, Aurimas Juška [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it would be very useful if you could tell us how to compile using both Microsoft Visual Studio and msys/mingw32. Well, in a nutshell, you have to know what you are doing;) Short instructions: Most importantly, the plug-in obviously

Re: [Gimp-developer] Compiling plugin for windows

2007-11-13 Thread Tor Lillqvist
On 13/11/2007, Tor Lillqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will shortly create a developer package for GIMP 2.4 and add a link to it on the http://www.gimp.org/~tml/gimp/win32/downloads.html page. Now it is there: http://www.gimp.org/~tml/gimp/win32/gimp-dev-2.4.zip . Please test and tell me

Re: [Gimp-developer] Compiling plugin for windows

2007-11-13 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Now it is there: http://www.gimp.org/~tml/gimp/win32/gimp-dev-2.4.zip . Please test and tell me if something is missing. Ah, I now see it needs some tweaking, Please hold on for a day or so until I have fixed the gimptool program to work better. (I hadn't looked at it for a long time...) --tml

Re: [Gimp-developer] Compiling plugin for windows

2007-11-12 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Hi all. I had develop a couple of plug-in and I need to compile it for windows... Can anyone can tell me how? First tell us how you compiled it on Linux, and what kind of experience, if any, you have of development on Windows, and what tools, if any, you already have for that. (ILike, have you

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.4 and how to continue from here

2007-11-04 Thread Tor Lillqvist
So if are planning any particular features for 2.6, now is the time to present them here so that they can be put on the roadmap. I plan to make iwarp into a tool. --tml ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU

Re: [Gimp-developer] Primary monitor profile (Windows)

2007-08-11 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Yoshinori Yamakawa writes: For example, it can read the primary monitor profile as follows: Looks good. Please file this code in bugzilla.gnome.org attached to an enhancement request for GIMP. --tml ___ Gimp-developer mailing list

[Gimp-developer] winicon.exe - libpng12.dll issue

2007-07-26 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Heiko Schmidt writes: I just compiled Gimp 2.3.19. 'Der Prozedureinsprungspunkt png_set_add_alpha wurde in der DLL libpng12.dll nicht gefunden.' What could cause this? Your executable is using another libpng12.dll than the one that corresponds to the import library you linked it

Re: [Gimp-developer] Win32 plugin console window

2007-07-11 Thread Tor Lillqvist
=?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Aurimas_Ju=9Aka?= writes: How do I change plug-in source tree so that console window wouldn't appear in background (On Win32 platform)? Add -mwindows to the *linking* command line. (Or /subsystem:windows if you use MSVC.) --tml

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Suggestion] Windows .lnk shortcuts

2007-07-10 Thread Tor Lillqvist
ICMP Request writes: Although I have to recognize that it's a very low priority issue, could be nice to see it implemented on new versions. Thanks for the suggestion. This problem is already reported in our bug tracking system. See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163544 . It will

Re: [Gimp-developer] jpeg quality factor.

2007-07-09 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Sven Neumann writes: If someone wants to try to recover some of the JPEG save settings when loading the JPEG file, feel free. There are some scenarios in which blindly reusing the quality factor guesstimated from loading an image is not a good idea, even if the guesstimate is very accurate.

Re: [Gimp-developer] jpeg quality factor.

2007-07-09 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Sven Neumann writes: If someone wants to try to recover some of the JPEG save settings when loading the JPEG file, feel free. I did. Index: plug-ins/jpeg/jpeg-load.c === --- plug-ins/jpeg/jpeg-load.c (revision 22905) +++

Re: [Gimp-developer] jpeg quality factor.

2007-07-08 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Guillermo Espertino writes: I didn't know that PS compression scale doesn't follow the jpeg specification. There is no such specification for a compression scale or quality factor. Inside an JPEG image, what actually defines the lossiness of the compression are a set of so-called

Re: [Gimp-developer] jpeg quality factor.

2007-07-08 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Sven Neumann writes: I already explained that the JPEG plug-in cannot access the settings that were used to save the file. Actually, it shouldn't be that hard to at least try. If the quantization tables used in an image correspond exactly (or closely enough) to those produced by libjpeg with

Re: [Gimp-developer] jpeg quality factor.

2007-07-08 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Tor Lillqvist writes: One might imagine some application even doing a clever analysis of an individual image to come up with image-specific quantization tables. http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/cache/papers/cs/1634/ftp:zSzzSzftp.cs.wisc.eduzSzpubzSztech-reportszSzreportszSz94zSztr1257.pdf/rd-opt

Re: [Gimp-developer] jpeg quality factor.

2007-07-07 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Guillermo Espertino writes: The same image exported as jpeg with the same quality factor (let's take 75% as an example) Where did you get that percent sign from? GIMP doesn't show any percent sign. The quality value is not a percentage of anything. You should just treat it as a number on a

Re: [Gimp-developer] jpeg quality factor.

2007-07-07 Thread Tor Lillqvist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here if I can do say 10 re-saves at 85% quality, it produces no discernible changes in picture quality. Presumably you also re-load the image you just saved each time? --tml ___ Gimp-developer mailing list

Re: [Gimp-developer] about carol

2007-06-22 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Campbell Barton writes: Since carol had the composure to be civil with people face-to-face makes me think that she does KNOW BETTER... I am not so sure. At LGM2007 there was at least one occasion where I was present when carol started her typical carol-speak, and (predictably) directing odd

Re: [Gimp-developer] how to

2007-05-22 Thread Tor Lillqvist
I am a newbie to GIMP. I have downloaded gimp-2.2.13.tar.gz, but I have a problem now. I don't know how to compile it in WindowsXP. Are you really sure you want to? Have you built any non-trivial Open Source software on Windows (or on Linux even) earlier? (Just running ./configure make

Re: [Gimp-developer] how to

2007-05-22 Thread Tor Lillqvist
(Let's keep this discussion on the gimp-developer list. In general, please don't reply privately to messages sent to a mailing list. At least in Open Source circles that is commonly considered rude. The purpose of public mailing lists is to keep the discussion open and archived.) I am a

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.4 release date

2007-04-16 Thread Tor Lillqvist
SorinN writes: That's why we need a Gimp PRO, Inkscape PRO, Scribus PRO - someone, a Firm / Govern / Foundation / Linux Distro / Billionaire ...or a mixture of them must hire core developers of all 3 projects - put them into a big WEB / DTP Core Linux project and manage development and

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimpwin install

2007-02-28 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris writes: How hard would it be to create a .msi installer for gimp + gtk+, instead of the current zip files? The current installer zip file is just a wrapper around a single .exe file installer. (Just in case somebody confuses this with the gtk+ etc zip files on

Re: [Gimp-developer] lcms plugin crashing

2007-01-14 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Hal V. Engel writes: I have noticed that recent CVS builds will issue the following error when opening some files with embedded profiles: How recent? Could this be the problem fixed by: 2007-01-03 Tor Lillqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] * plug-ins/common/lcms.c (run): Fix mixup

Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting console messages from GIMP on Win32

2006-12-16 Thread Tor Lillqvist
David Gowers writes: Is there some way of convincing GIMP to send warning/error/informative messages to a useful place on Win32? Start GIMP with the command: gimp-2.2 gimp.log 21 from cmd.exe. This requires that you have added GIMP's bin folder to your PATH. --tml

Re: [Gimp-developer] [GIMP] Suggestion to simplify user interaction

2006-10-13 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Michael Natterer writes: No. You don't want to look at emacs code. Really. While talking about Emacsish features, one feature I often miss in GUI apps is something equivalent to Emacs's C-h c (describe-key-briefly). I.e., a way to find out what a certain keypress does. The main use case for

[Gimp-developer] Win32 patch to fontconfig

2006-08-24 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Hi, This patch should fix a couple of longstanding problems with fontconfig on Windows that manifest themselves especially in GIMP. The root cause to the problems is in Microsoft's incredibly stupid stat() implementation. See for instance http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154968 and

[Gimp-developer] Re: gimptool-2.0 installed on Windows XP?

2006-04-26 Thread Tor Lillqvist
PLinnell writes: Here is how Scribus launches GIMP on Win32 from within Scribus: [...] If I am wrong, I hope someone corrects this. I am sure you are right, but I don't see what your answer has to do with the original question ;) gimptool-2.0.exe, and the header files and import libraries

Re: [Gimp-developer] Why be cryptic? 'Xtns' should be name 'Extensions'

2006-03-23 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Brendan writes: Please, oh Lord, someone fork Gimp. I can imagine the scenario: (This is a parody, not a flame) Someones forks GIMP, sets up a project on (say) SourceForge. He spends lots of effort on the project's web page. (He is a c00l web designer.) It has a long list of features that this

[Gimp-developer] Re: pspi for gimp on linux

2006-03-23 Thread Tor Lillqvist
that the Handle type in the Photoshop API is used by some plug-ins in an undocumented way. Instead of treating a Handle as an opaque type, they know that a Handle in fact is a pointer to a pointer, and use it like that without calling the lock API which is the documented way to get the pointer from a Handle. Tor

Re: [Gimp-developer] Why be cryptic? 'Xtns' should be name 'Extensions'

2006-03-21 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Martin Nordholts writes: I've have experience with both of Photoshop and GIMP, and I don't agree. To me Photoshop's interface is much more thoroughly designed. Well, using usability expertise and the experience of real power GIMP users in (re)designing GIMP's UI is something which the GIMP

Re: [Gimp-developer] support for the PSD

2006-03-03 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Bart writes: BTW the SDK is available on other sites on the net i posted the url at the beginning of that thread. Surely you aren't suggesting that we should use illegally (well, against its license anyway) redistributed copies of the PS6 SDK to improve the psd plug-in? That would be very

Re: [Gimp-developer] Photoshop PSD 6 format Spec / Gimp XCF format Spec

2006-03-02 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Alexandre Prokoudine writes: 8bi files working on Mac and Win only (as far as i know). *cough* http://tml-blog.blogspot.com/2006/02/photoshop-filters-in-gimp-on-linux.html pspi handles only .8bf files (filter plug-ins), though. (It would be possible extend it to handle file format

Re: [Gimp-developer] 16bit channels, doh

2005-11-01 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Brannon King writes: compositing (I think that term refers to handling/merging the image data formats) Umm, no. As far as I know compositing refers to the handling/merging of the layers of an image. In a future GEGL-based GIMP, layers can also be algorithmic, for example: a blurring layer.

[Gimp-developer]

2005-10-31 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Yavala writes: Can someone help me with the simple plug-in (hello message box)http://developer.gimp.org/writing-a-plug-in/1/index.html? Well, the most obvious error is that there is no initial '#' character on the line where you try to include libgimp/gimp.h. (Have you never programmed in C

[Gimp-developer] Compiling a Simple Plug-in.

2005-10-25 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Yavala writes: Can anyone show me how to compile the simple Plug-in1 hello' message on GIMP. The simple plugin for gimp is available at this link http://developer.gimp.org/writing-a-plug-in/1/index.html. I don't see any complete source code on that page, unfortunately. What did you do,

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.3.4

2005-10-04 Thread Tor Lillqvist
lode leroy writes: The thing is that for compiling gimp from cvs, you need quite some expertise in the autotools, libtool, aclocal, pkg-config etc to fix those not-100%-working-together- distributed binaries... Would it be feasible to create a big zip-file that contains everything for

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.3.4

2005-10-03 Thread Tor Lillqvist
lode leroy writes: In fact, what happens is that when linking with ZLIB.DLL, the exe expects ZLIB-1.DLL instead of ZLIB1.DLL. (or vice-versa). The official zlib dll is called zlib1.dll. Any other name means it is not official. Official as in directly from real maintainer of zlib. As the

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.3.4

2005-09-28 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Lance Dockins writes: 1) Is there a way to get python to work on Windows Yes. Personally I have so far not really been interested in Python and haven't attempted to build the Python scripting support. But others have it working. AND is it even necessary to build GIMP? No. 2) Where do I

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.3.4

2005-09-28 Thread Tor Lillqvist
There is no longer a gimp on windows mailing list, Well, for a list that doesn't exist it is pretty active... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gimpwin-users/ I guess rockwalrus meant there is no *developer-oriented* Windows-specific GIMP (or GTK+) list. That's true. --tml

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.3.4

2005-09-23 Thread Tor Lillqvist
michael chang writes: Solution: Linux/POSIX emulation layer. Cygwin is usually used. Actually, I think MSYS is more commonly used nowadays, or Microsoft's own Interix. Cygwin is a bit too heavy, and has a tendency of occasionally getting too much in your way. Please note the use of POSIX

[Gimp-developer] Error compiling gimp 2.3.3 with mingw on winxp

2005-09-14 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Paolo Magnoli writes: /mingw/include/unistd.h:13:27: no include path in which to search for unistd.h Huh? That's a very odd message. What happens if you compile a trivial source file that just contains the line #include unistd.h? --tml ___

R: [Gimp-developer] Error compiling gimp 2.3.3 with mingw on winxp

2005-09-14 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Paolo Magnoli writes: Hi, I've put up a file with that line only in it and tried to compile it, I got the same error: /mingw/include/unistd.h:13:27: no include path in which to search for unistd.h There must be something broken in your mingw installation. I have never seen that message

[Gimp-developer] A Visit to GIMP

2005-09-12 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Carol Spears writes: even photographs from the way back past would be interesting. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tml/tags/gimpcon/ --tml ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu

Re: [Gimp-developer] authors.xml, volunteer needed

2005-08-27 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Based on ChangeLog* po*/ChangeLog: Index: authors.xml === RCS file: /cvs/gnome/gimp/authors.xml,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -0 -r1.6 authors.xml --- authors.xml 20 Aug 2005 02:28:29 - 1.6 +++ authors.xml 27 Aug 2005

Re: [Gimp-developer] authors.xml, volunteer needed

2005-08-27 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Stephen Robert Norris writes: I wrote the original Plasma plugin, Displace plugin and... waves? plugin... It's been a while. OK. As Sven said, no big changes are expected. I assume all who can't be with 100% certainty classified as documenter or artist will stay as author. --tml

Re: [Gimp-developer] Starting with Win32 plug-in development

2005-07-29 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Arnaud Darmont writes: It seems that i'm missing some lib files from gimp and gtk2+. I don't want to build those softwares completely, could someone send me the necessary LIBs? Go to www.gimp.org/win32/downloads.html for developer packages (headers, import libraries) for GTK+, Pango, atk

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-cvs on msys/mingw

2005-07-06 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Michael Schumacher writes: BTW, does anyone know what exactly the MinGwPORT stuff is about? Is it the start of a package management system? As far as I have been able to figure out, it's a way to package a patch and pre- and post-build scripts to automate building something from a pristine

[Gimp-developer] gimp-cvs on msys/mingw

2005-07-05 Thread Tor Lillqvist
lode leroy writes: ftruncate is not present in my version of mingw, so I changed it to make it compile. Why don't you upgrade to a more recent version then? (Or have they dropped their inline ftruncate() implementation in unistd.h from bleeding-edge versions?) --tml

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-cvs on msys/mingw

2005-07-05 Thread Tor Lillqvist
michael chang writes: MinGW/MSYS comes in about 20 or so different packages, which can be confusing to install. Umm, isn't it more like half a dozen? From memory: gcc, binutils, gdb, w32api, msys, maybe the msysDTK (or whatever it was called, the package that contains the auto* support stuff

[Gimp-developer] Re: GTK+ File Chooser on MS windows

2005-06-20 Thread Tor Lillqvist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: is triggered by the / key, too, but this (for obvious reasons) doesn't work on Windows. Actually, it does, at least for me, with GIMP 2.2 and GTK+ 2.6.8. Although if you need to enter a drive letter, after typing the slash, you have to backspace once to erase it,

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