On 6/27/05, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A way to overcome this is to have e.g. two lines per layer. A sample
mockup is available at
http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/files/layer-dialog-many-properties.png
This might work from a
Hi,
michael chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So you can't do something like a two boxes with columns, in a box, and
then have a list of those boxes? Something like the way Java Swing
does GUIs?
You can do that in GTK+ but not in a GtkTreeView. At least not without
writing a very complex cell
Hi,
we haven't been able to come to a conclusion with regard to the GUI
yet, but that shouldn't keep you from starting to work on layer
locking. It probably makes sense to start implementing this from the
bottom up. Whether you then add a GUI for it into the layer row or
somewhere above the layer
On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 09:21:39PM -0300, Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris wrote:
On left-clicking on the layer-tree, where the current linked icon
for each layer is placed, a drop-down menu would be displayed.
This menu would contain 4 itens which could each be checked or
unchecked:
On 6/26/05, Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 26 June 2005 17:48, Sven Neumann wrote:
Hi,
Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If we want to have all the lock types that PS offers, we would
have to add three new toggles to the layer row.
On 6/26/05, Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A way to overcome this is to have e.g. two lines per layer. A sample
mockup is available at
http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/files/layer-dialog-many-properties.png
This would work. All you would need to do is increase the text 2pt or
so, and
Nathan Summers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On 6/26/05, Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A way to overcome this is to have e.g. two lines per layer. A sample
mockup is available at
http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/files/layer-dialog-many-properties.png
This would work. All you
On Monday, June 27, 2005, 16:32:13, Nathan Summers wrote:
This would work. All you would need to do is increase the text 2pt or
so, and make the icons visually look a little less like text.
The text looks like it's the same size as the rest of the text, so I don't
think it's necessary to
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The text looks like it's the same size as the rest of the text, so I don't
think it's necessary to increase it any more (I always found GTK+'s
default text size a bit too big, at least on Windows).
gtk-wimp (or is it called ms-theme-engine now?) should take care of
On Monday, June 27, 2005, 17:27:43, Michael Schumacher wrote:
gtk-wimp (or is it called ms-theme-engine now?) should take care of this,
shouldn't it?
It does.
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Hi,
Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A way to overcome this is to have e.g. two lines per layer. A sample
mockup is available at
http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/files/layer-dialog-many-properties.png
This might work from a user's point of view but I am afraid that it
will be a
On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 08:19:16PM -0300, Pedro Kiefer wrote:
I've just made this mockup (attached) of how the locking mechanism
should appear to the user in the layers tab. But that could be wrong, in
not really familiar with the GNOME HIG. Clicking in an unlocked lock
will lock the layer,
Hi,
Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I also think that it will clutter the rows too much if we move it to
the front. Perhaps consider to add it on the top of the dialog with
the opacity slider and the Lock Alpha Channel toggle ?
I don't think this is practical. In Skencil I use locking
Simon Budig wrote:
Also we should consider making the layers not selectable in the layers
dialog if they are locked. This removes a source of confusion (why
doesn't this work) and gives immediate additional feedback about the
locking.
I was about to suggest this myself, but then dismissed
Sven Neumann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I also think that it will clutter the rows too much if we move it to
the front. Perhaps consider to add it on the top of the dialog with
the opacity slider and the Lock Alpha Channel toggle ?
I don't think
Michael Schumacher ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Also we should consider making the layers not selectable in the layers
dialog if they are locked. This removes a source of confusion (why
doesn't this work) and gives immediate additional feedback about the
locking.
I was about to suggest
Simon Budig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Sven Neumann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Well, we do that already for the alpha channel lock and it doesn't
seem to work that badly. Sooner or later we will probably want to add
more such toggles.
actually the alpha channel lock is a major source of
Hi,
Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
With your proposed solution it would be a major PITA to do this.
I didn't propose a solution, I only said that moving the toggle
elsewhere should be considerd. I am not at all convinced it is a
good idea. But then, IIRC, PS does it this way.
Since we
Hi,
for your inspiration, heres a slightly outdated screenshot of the PS
user interface for layer locking:
http://www.edigitalphoto.com/images/archivesart/0203edp_using_02.jpg
This PDF has a lot more screenshots and shows a more uptodate view of
the Layers dialog on page 23:
Sven Neumann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
With your proposed solution it would be a major PITA to do this.
I didn't propose a solution, I only said that moving the toggle
elsewhere should be considerd. I am not at all convinced it is a
good idea. But
On Sun, 26 Jun 2005, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:17:46 +0200
From: Thorsten Wilms [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Layer locking proposal
On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 08:19:16PM -0300, Pedro Kiefer wrote:
I've just
Sven,
I did look at the PS user interface for layers before doing the mockup.
In the other message you've said:
I am sorry, but you can't put the lock at the end of the row. It would
become invisible as soon as one layer has a longer name.
Couldn't that be solved by ellipsizing the layer name? I
Hi,
Pedro Kiefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I did look at the PS user interface for layers before doing the
mockup. In the other message you've said: I am sorry, but you
can't put the lock at the end of the row. It would become invisible
as soon as one layer has a longer name. Couldn't that
Hi,
Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ok, replace proposed solution with suggested placement of the button
or whatever. Do you have an example use case where the user would
benefit from that placement?
Alice and Bob are looking for the layer named Foobar.
Due to the introduction of
On Sunday, June 26, 2005, 15:17:52, Sven Neumann wrote:
for your inspiration, heres a slightly outdated screenshot of the PS
user interface for layer locking:
Here's how PaintShopPro handles the layers dialog:
http://deeperthought.ena.si/misc/psplayers.png
The buttons at top are for new
On Sun, 2005-06-26 at 12:59 -0300, Pedro Kiefer wrote:
Sven,
I did look at the PS user interface for layers before doing the mockup.
In the other message you've said:
I am sorry, but you can't put the lock at the end of the row. It would
become invisible as soon as one layer has a longer
On Sunday 26 June 2005 13:48, Sven Neumann wrote:
Hi,
Well, it is up to the user to name the layers and I don't think we
should make it harder to use long names. In general it is better to
allow list views to scroll horizontally instead of trying to
shorten the content to make it fit into
Hi,
Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If we want to have all the lock types that PS offers, we would have
to add three new toggles to the layer row. Is that feasible?
kkk...
I thought of three different states for the lock Icon (and a nice
tooltip, of course).
Hi,
Pedro Kiefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As a follow up to my own message, here is another mockup. The lock on
the far right of the list would disable the lock for the given layer, so
you don't have to change to that particular layer to change it's status.
The checkboxs under the opacity
Sven Neumann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ok, replace proposed solution with suggested placement of the button
or whatever. Do you have an example use case where the user would
benefit from that placement?
Alice and Bob are looking for the layer named
On 6/25/05, Pedro Kiefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Objective: Lock the layer from user actions.
I've just made this mockup (attached) of how the locking mechanism
should appear to the user in the layers tab. But that could be wrong, in
not really familiar with the GNOME HIG. Clicking in an
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