Re: [Gimp-developer] Drawing zones

2007-01-21 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2007-01-19 at 21:23 -0300, Manuel Quiñones wrote: PD: I know this kind of discussion may bother developers, and I understand you are leading to a major release for us all. So, why not open a mailing list dedicated to gimp-scripting? I ask questions about scripting in the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Drawing zones

2007-01-19 Thread Manuel Quiñones
2007/1/18, Thorsten Wilms [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 02:57:30AM -0300, Manuel Quiñones wrote: I've had a similar idea than yours, and implemented it right away. But instead of changing zones with keystrokes, the zone can be selected using the crosspoint of two perpendicular

Re: [Gimp-developer] Drawing zones

2007-01-18 Thread Manuel Quiñones
I've had a similar idea than yours, and implemented it right away. But instead of changing zones with keystrokes, the zone can be selected using the crosspoint of two perpendicular guides. I know this is ugly, and maybe your idea about changing to next/previous zone is better. Here it is:

Re: [Gimp-developer] Drawing zones

2007-01-18 Thread Manuel Quiñones
I've had a similar idea than yours, and implemented it right away. But instead of changing zones with keystrokes, the zone can be selected using the crosspoint of two perpendicular guides. I know this is ugly, and maybe your idea about changing to next/previous zone is better. Here it is:

Re: [Gimp-developer] Drawing zones

2007-01-18 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 02:57:30AM -0300, Manuel Quiñones wrote: I've had a similar idea than yours, and implemented it right away. But instead of changing zones with keystrokes, the zone can be selected using the crosspoint of two perpendicular guides. I know this is ugly, and maybe your idea

Re: [Gimp-developer] Drawing zones

2007-01-18 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 08:04:28PM +1030, David Gowers wrote: I like the idea of using a layer and a palette to draw the zones. Even though I talked about hard edges, I (and everyone else drawing) need anti-aliased ones in almost all cases :} Well, the simple case of that is easily done

Re: [Gimp-developer] Drawing zones

2007-01-18 Thread David Gowers
On 1/18/07, Thorsten Wilms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I usually work with a bunch of alpha-locked layers (paint shape in flat-colour, lock alpha, paint shadows, light, texture ...) I guess the perfect zone implementation would actualy need some overlap to have the same effect of alpha-locked

Re: [Gimp-developer] Drawing zones

2007-01-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 10:10 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86274 If I understand the whole thread, it's about another way to select any layer, not only one that has highest z-order and non-zero alpha at a specific location (pointer). No,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Drawing zones

2007-01-17 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 08:52:48AM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: I start to realize what you are asking for now. But, instead of suggesting a solution, could you perhaps try to explain where the problems are when you try to use the currently available features to implement your workflow? You

Re: [Gimp-developer] Drawing zones

2007-01-17 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 01:18:35AM -0800, Saul Goode wrote: If I am understanding you correctly, these scripts should be helpful to you in your workflow. You would still have to manually invert the selection; but I would point out that the Select menu can torn off so that Select-Invert is

Re: [Gimp-developer] Drawing zones

2007-01-17 Thread Saul Goode
Sorry, no. I don't see the benefit over switching between layers. #1: A selection does not overlap its inverse. #2: There is no need to keep track of which layers are associated with each other (and for switching between layers, presumably they would need to be adjacent in the layerstack). #3:

Re: [Gimp-developer] Drawing zones

2007-01-17 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:00:00 +0100, Thorsten Wilms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 06:36:27AM -0800, Saul Goode wrote: If the only difference is whether a mouse-click is used on the canvas or a keystroke/menu/widget action is used to invert the selection, I suspect you

Re: [Gimp-developer] Drawing zones

2007-01-17 Thread David Gowers
On 1/18/07, Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok - I've read the request and got the idea. I have the followwing proposal: what if one had a set of pre-loaded selections, and could switch back and forth among then with a single keystroke - Do you (and others) think it could

Re: [Gimp-developer] Drawing zones

2007-01-17 Thread David Gowers
On 1/18/07, Manuel Quiñones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had a similar idea than yours, and implemented it right away. But instead of changing zones with keystrokes, the zone can be selected using the crosspoint of two perpendicular guides. I know this is ugly, and maybe your idea about

Re: [Gimp-developer] Drawing zones

2007-01-17 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 18:03 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote: Thinking some more about this, a switch to highest in the stack layer with non-zero alpha at pointer location, option, triggered on button/pen-down before drawing is actually executed could do the trick while been least

Re: [Gimp-developer] Drawing zones

2007-01-16 Thread David Gowers
On 1/17/07, Thorsten Wilms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! So I was asked to suggest new features on the mailing-list and only file bug report after they have been discussed there ... and it seems theres a misunderstanding to be resolved and i wouldn't mind more exposure for this ... :) My

Re: [Gimp-developer] Drawing zones

2007-01-16 Thread David Gowers
Also consider reopening the bug report -- you can do this since you're the reporter, and as Sven resolved it WONTFIX under a huge misapprehension of it, I recommend doing so. It may influence the volume of discussion on it here. ___ Gimp-developer

Re: [Gimp-developer] Drawing zones

2007-01-16 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 12:19 +1030, David Gowers wrote: Also consider reopening the bug report -- you can do this since you're the reporter, and as Sven resolved it WONTFIX under a huge misapprehension of it, I recommend doing so. It may influence the volume of discussion on it here.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Drawing zones

2007-01-16 Thread Sven Neumann
Him On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 22:06 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote: My proposal is about an alternative to using either layers or saved selections to draw on areas of an image with sharp edges between them. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=80388 Shows a typical case, ignoring the