[Gimp-developer] Film gimp Vs Gimp....

2002-12-23 Thread Danni Coy
I think it best that Filmgimp do its own thing for the time being I personally use both... If there where any merging I would suggest the 1.3.x branch than the 1.2.x branch simply because the code in the 1.3 branch is so much easier to work with (I say that as someone who is almost completely

Re: [FilmGimp] Re: [Gimp-developer] Film Gimp and GIMP

2002-12-10 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Stephen J Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, I was pointing out that floating point imagery is soon going to be important to many other user communities outside of the film industry and it follows that floating point images ought to be loadable, editable and save-able from within

Re: [FilmGimp] Re: [Gimp-developer] Film Gimp and GIMP

2002-12-10 Thread Patrick McFarland
On 10-Dec-2002, Sven Neumann wrote: the plan is not to have 16 bit or 32 bit or floats but to offer a framework that allows to handle image data more or less independently of its representation. GEGL is the framework and it already supports floating point, 8bit and 16bit integer. Adding more

Re: [FilmGimp] Re: [Gimp-developer] Film Gimp and GIMP

2002-12-09 Thread Stephen J Baker
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Sam Richards wrote: I would like to stress that some of the film-industry interest in filmgimp is as much for the floating point as the 16 bit. The need for floating point is for High Dynamic Range imagery which is used as a lighting tool, and not for final delivery. So

Re: [FilmGimp] Re: [Gimp-developer] Film Gimp and GIMP

2002-12-09 Thread Patrick McFarland
On 09-Dec-2002, Stephen J Baker wrote: On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Sam Richards wrote: I would like to stress that some of the film-industry interest in filmgimp is as much for the floating point as the 16 bit. The need for floating point is for High Dynamic Range imagery which is used as a

Re: [FilmGimp] Re: [Gimp-developer] Film Gimp and GIMP

2002-12-09 Thread Patrick McFarland
On 09-Dec-2002, Stephen J Baker wrote: I'm not suggesting that this would be useful to GIMP - but that other developers who are working in 3D using modern rendering hardware will soon need support for 32 bit floating point texture maps. So, I was pointing out that floating point imagery is

Re: [Gimp-developer] Film Gimp and GIMP

2002-12-08 Thread Robin Rowe
Branko, ... I would like to compliment you and your team on following The Right Way. The Film Gimp team deserves more credit than I for what's been accomplished. Others toiled in secret for years on Film Gimp before I joined the project this summer. Since going public, new developers have

Re: [FilmGimp] Re: [Gimp-developer] Film Gimp and GIMP

2002-12-02 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Sam Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would like to know what the roadmap for gimp is after 1.4? When is the merge for GEGL? Are you planning 16 bit support as a separate thing to GEGL? Are there any design docs for 1.3? How much work was it porting to GTK2.0? This document is

Re: [Gimp-developer] Film Gimp and GIMP

2002-12-02 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Patrick McFarland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To cut this all short, how long will it be until I can do higher precision rendering in any gimp whatsoever? FG's xcf plugin is broke, gegl isnt done yet insert stock rant here GEGL is being worked on and it has already come a long way.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Film Gimp and GIMP

2002-12-01 Thread Michael J. Hammel
Thus spoke Patrick McFarland because the development teams dont communicate enough. I agree with a lot of what you said, but in the end, its silly to have two branches like this. Maybe not. Consider that having competing branches can push the advancement of both. This is true of any research

Re: [Gimp-developer] Film Gimp and GIMP

2002-12-01 Thread Patrick McFarland
On 01-Dec-2002, Michael J. Hammel wrote: Maybe not. Consider that having competing branches can push the advancement of both. This is true of any research or commercial development. In this case, the discussion on 16bit support has been nudged yet again - perhaps enough to make real

Re: [Gimp-developer] Film Gimp and GIMP

2002-11-29 Thread David Hodson
Wow. Sure is hot in here. Some comments, from a gimp _and_ filmgimp developer: I also regret any duplication of effort between the two. However, I'm not personally convinced that merging them is a good idea. My feeling is that Filmgimp should be a tool specifically (or at least, primarily) for

Re: [Gimp-developer] Film Gimp and GIMP

2002-11-29 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 00:40:52 +1100, David Hodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. Sure is hot in here. Ouch! ;-) Some comments, from a gimp _and_ filmgimp developer: Thanks! I am glad that such a person exists. ;-) And I prefer to have a serious discussion rather than a flame war. I also

Re: [Gimp-developer] Film Gimp and GIMP

2002-11-29 Thread Patrick McFarland
On 29-Nov-2002, David Neary wrote: Hi all, David Hodson wrote: My feeling is that Filmgimp should be a tool specifically (or at least, primarily) for the film industry. It is very likely to develop along lines that are (at best) not useful to, or (quite possibly) totally unwanted by,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Film Gimp and GIMP

2002-11-29 Thread Patrick McFarland
Merging both does not require the removal of features from either tool. The added value of Film Gimp comes primarily from its 16-bits support and its frame manager (and specialized plug-ins). But unfortunately, it is based on an old core, which lacks many features that are present in the

Re: [FilmGimp] Re: [Gimp-developer] Film Gimp and GIMP

2002-11-29 Thread Sam Richards
Hi, I am one of the developers of filmgimp, although really I am mostly bug-fixing and packaging it at the moment. While I'm not going to comment on accuracies of the web site, thats Robins area, but I would like to address some of the other issues raised... Firstly, like everybody else, I

Re: [Gimp-developer] Film Gimp and GIMP

2002-11-28 Thread Patrick McFarland
On 28-Nov-2002, Sven Neumann wrote: the point is that the new film-gimp maintainer or any of the people working on film-gimp don't communicate with us at all. The project somehow came back to life without any notification on this mailing-list. We had to hear about it in the news. Among

Re: [Gimp-developer] Film Gimp and GIMP

2002-11-27 Thread Patrick McFarland
On 27-Nov-2002, Raphaël Quinet wrote: I have the feeling that the gap between GIMP and Film Gimp is widening more and more, instead of shrinking until the two versions can be merged in the same codebase. I understand that the development on the HOLLYWOOD branch has different constraints than