Re: [Gimp-developer] (no subject)

2012-06-19 Thread Michael Henning
I can still reproduce this on latest master (5835a730a3eef3cee579c50b250bb8ba15b77d7c), using the images that are available for download at the bottom of that page. Strangely, if you open the 16 bit tiff, and choose not to convert it into the sRGB builtin colorspace, the image still displays with

Re: [Gimp-developer] Important misfunction in gimp scaling tool

2012-06-19 Thread peter sikking
Liam wrote: I don't think you should view it as written in stone no, you just have to take it up with your own, personal Moses™ ;^} work on the unified geometry tool has been kicked into another gear this week. Mikael and I are discussing different aspects and the spec is taking strides again.

Re: [Gimp-developer] (no subject)

2012-06-19 Thread Elle Stone
On 6/19/12, Øyvind Kolås pip...@gimp.org wrote: None of the ICC profile handling in GIMP deals with GEGL or higher bitdepths - at the start and end of all these code paths things go through 8bpc; and probably behave similarly to how they do in 2.8 - there shouldn't be much of a difference.

[Gimp-developer] canvas and layer

2012-06-19 Thread Ursu Dumitru
Hello I've noticed that the the problem with Save/Export is calming down ( I guess till the Ubuntu users get their hands on GIMP 2.8, and start whining ), so I want to start a new issue, and I hope it will be a constructive discussion. Now what I was wondering was: is there a real need for

Re: [Gimp-developer] (no subject)

2012-06-19 Thread Elle Stone
Hi, /Øyvind and Mitch, If you join #gimp on irc.gimp.org I'm sure there will be people who can point you in the right direction ;) At least for the color profile bits which should be very self contained code. I will follow your suggestions to join IRC, #gimp on irc.gimp.org.

Re: [Gimp-developer] canvas and layer

2012-06-19 Thread Elle Stone
On 6/19/12, Ursu Dumitru dimaurs...@gmail.com wrote: Now what I was wondering was: is there a real need for having both these things: canvas and layer? Aren't they pretty much the same thing? Perhaps we are talking about two different things. But I use canvas (Image - Canvas size) all the

Re: [Gimp-developer] canvas and layer

2012-06-19 Thread Michael Schumacher
On 19.06.2012 20:17, Ursu Dumitru wrote: Now what I was wondering was: is there a real need for having both these things: canvas and layer? Aren't they pretty much the same thing? In an image, you have multiple layers. Or layers that are larger than the canvas, or smaller, ... I don't

Re: [Gimp-developer] canvas and layer

2012-06-19 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 21:17 +0300, Ursu Dumitru wrote: Now what I was wondering was: is there a real need for having both these things: canvas and layer? Aren't they pretty much the same thing? The canvas is a sort of layer that contains other layers, such that the inner layers are clipped to

Re: [Gimp-developer] canvas and layer

2012-06-19 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Guillermo Espertino (Gez) wrote: Personally I don't see any reason to revisit these concepts. Even if, unlike Mypaint and Krita, GIMP doesn't have the notion of background patterns? :) Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org

Re: [Gimp-developer] Important misfunction in gimp scaling tool

2012-06-19 Thread Ofnuts
On 06/19/2012 06:36 PM, peter sikking wrote: Liam wrote: I don't think you should view it as written in stone no, you just have to take it up with your own, personal Moses™ ;^} work on the unified geometry tool has been kicked into another gear this week. Mikael and I are discussing

Re: [Gimp-developer] present xcf as what it is, a gimp project file format

2012-06-19 Thread yahvuu
Am 17.06.2012 23:29, schrieb peter sikking: you are on a roll with brainstorming, aren’t you? taking that a bit further, that would be ‘export + force close’ or ‘overwrite and force close’. the combinations; the integration in the file menu; and the edge case-ness all give me stomach

Re: [Gimp-developer] present xcf as what it is, a gimp project file format

2012-06-19 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 21:59 +0200, yahvuu wrote: A pop-up is certainly appropriate for preventing _accidental_ data loss via Close. But for Force Close, i see no justification to interrupt the train of thought by raising a pop-up. Years ago I used a mailer called elm, in which x was the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Bring back normal handling of other file formats

2012-06-19 Thread Graeme Gill
Simon Budig wrote: This discussion really boils down to a matter of taste and there are arguments for both ways. Unfortunately in your case you're taste weighs less than the taste of Peter to the developers. If it was purely taste, I wouldn't bother commenting. It's a lack of logic though -

Re: [Gimp-developer] present xcf as what it is, a gimp project file format

2012-06-19 Thread Graeme Gill
peter sikking wrote: - this means that either all users would have to have intimate knowledge of file formats to know why the option to save to them disappear as edits are done (usability blooper. bit of alpha is introduced? no more jpeg; any layers? no more png; paths and layers? tiff is

Re: [Gimp-developer] present xcf as what it is, a gimp project file format

2012-06-19 Thread Marco Ciampa
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 09:32:36AM +1000, Graeme Gill wrote: peter sikking wrote: - this means that either all users would have to have intimate knowledge of file formats to know why the option to save to them disappear as edits are done (usability blooper. bit of alpha is introduced?

Re: [Gimp-developer] present xcf as what it is, a gimp project file format

2012-06-19 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 3:46 AM, Marco Ciampa wrote: Or you get the computer to do the hard work, and indicate what of the current image state would get dropped if forced to saved to that format. Peter: am I wrong if I say that, with the newer versions of GIMP, due to the final integration

Re: [Gimp-developer] present xcf as what it is, a gimp project file format

2012-06-19 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 01:46 +0200, Marco Ciampa wrote: [...] am I wrong if I say that, with the newer versions of GIMP, due to the final integration with GEGL, saving png to png or jpg to jpg has even less sense, since GIMP inerently import into an internal rappresentation that is no more