Re: [Gimp-developer] Don't make an architectural mistake based on a groundless premise

2014-10-07 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 1:32 AM, Simone Karin Lehmann wrote: >> Am 07.10.2014 um 12:27 schrieb Øyvind Kolås >> The set of pixel formats currently in babl are by >> implementation&definition references to unchanging color spaces and >> representations - this is how babl is built with linear sRGB as

Re: [Gimp-developer] Don't make an architectural mistake based on a groundless premise

2014-10-07 Thread Simone Karin Lehmann
> Am 07.10.2014 um 12:27 schrieb Øyvind Kolås > The set of pixel formats currently in babl are by > implementation&definition references to unchanging color spaces and > representations - this is how babl is built with linear sRGB as it's > connection space; and this is how ICC works with XYZ as

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gegl-developer] Don't make an architectural mistake based on a groundless premise

2014-10-07 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Elle Stone wrote: > Who decides what's common and what's rare for an artist to want to do? The > GIMP devs? Isn't that just a trifle presumptuous? > > These kinds of decisions belong with the users, not the devs. I'm sorry but you've crossed the line from being a

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gegl-developer] Don't make an architectural mistake based on a groundless premise

2014-10-07 Thread Elle Stone
On 10/07/2014 03:36 PM, Øyvind Kolås wrote: On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Elle Stone wrote: You could accomplish guiding users as to the right choices regarding linear vs perceptual by creating presets and allowing users the freedom to control their own editing decisions. You don't have to bu

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gegl-developer] Don't make an architectural mistake based on a groundless premise

2014-10-07 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Elle Stone wrote: > You could accomplish guiding users as to the right choices regarding linear > vs perceptual by creating presets and allowing users the freedom to control > their own editing decisions. You don't have to build fences around what > people can do wi

Re: [Gimp-developer] Placing grid on half-pixels using the offset

2014-10-07 Thread Ofnuts
On 07/10/14 12:36, Seldom Needy wrote: Is there a strong reason for fractional offsets (even +0.5) in the grid-configuration dialog being prevented? I'm working on a layout at present and I've noticed this limitation... Due to the snapping behavior of brushes, it's sometimes helpful to be able t

Re: [Gimp-developer] Don't make an architectural mistake based on a groundless premise

2014-10-07 Thread Elle Stone
On 10/07/2014 02:57 PM, Øyvind Kolås wrote: On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 8:10 PM, Elle Stone wrote: To me it seems like you do not like the fact that the neutrally sounding babl_format name "RGBA float" is strictly defined in the architecture of both babl and GEGL, and see this as the thing in the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Don't make an architectural mistake based on a groundless premise

2014-10-07 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 8:10 PM, Elle Stone wrote: > I'm posting to the original thread. Pippin had started a new thread: > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list/2014- gmail started a new thread when I tired to change the alarmist subject. > Brasseur shows why scaling needs to be do

Re: [Gimp-developer] Don't make an architectural mistake based on a groundless premise

2014-10-07 Thread Jon Nordby
On 7 October 2014 20:13, scl wrote: > Hi, > > On 4.10.2014 at 5:59 PM Øyvind Kolås wrote: > > Almost, developers decide which pixelformat is appropriate for their >> operation, with a choice of linear RGB, sRGB, CIE Lab, some gray scale >> formats as well as formats used with digital video with

Re: [Gimp-developer] Don't make an architectural mistake based on a groundless premise

2014-10-07 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 8:13 PM, scl wrote: > On 4.10.2014 at 5:59 PM Øyvind Kolås wrote: > >> Almost, developers decide which pixelformat is appropriate for their >> operation, with a choice of linear RGB, sRGB, CIE Lab, some gray scale >> formats as well as formats used with digital video with d

Re: [Gimp-developer] Don't make an architectural mistake based on a groundless premise

2014-10-07 Thread scl
Hi, On 4.10.2014 at 5:59 PM Øyvind Kolås wrote: Almost, developers decide which pixelformat is appropriate for their operation, with a choice of linear RGB, sRGB, CIE Lab, some gray scale formats as well as formats used with digital video with different data types; currently the set of babl fo

Re: [Gimp-developer] Don't make an architectural mistake based on a groundless premise

2014-10-07 Thread Elle Stone
I'm posting to the original thread. Pippin had started a new thread: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list/2014-October/msg00010.html On 10/07/2014 06:27 AM, Øyvind Kolås wrote:> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Simone Karin Lehmann wrote: BTW, I've noticed, that although Elle

[Gimp-developer] Placing grid on half-pixels using the offset

2014-10-07 Thread Seldom Needy
Is there a strong reason for fractional offsets (even +0.5) in the grid-configuration dialog being prevented? I'm working on a layout at present and I've noticed this limitation... Due to the snapping behavior of brushes, it's sometimes helpful to be able to draw/erase/smear/etc along the *middle*

[Gimp-developer] Lets get rid of Fahrenheit instead

2014-10-07 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Simone Karin Lehmann wrote: >GEGL/BABL words: operating in unbounded sRGB and converting back to the >original space will give identical results as >operating in the original space >only. > _For some operations_, like most compositing, blurring resampling, any l