Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-08-08 Thread Malix
After my first post Alexandre ask to post a patch. From now I will have 2 weeks of vacation. So I will try to make it happen. As project kde did I will use am2cmake ruby script for automatic translation and the fix things by hand. If someone else is interested let me know. Massimo Il giorno

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-08-08 Thread Mukund Sivaraman
Hi Malix On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 09:24:37AM +0200, Malix wrote: After my first post Alexandre ask to post a patch. From now I will have 2 weeks of vacation. So I will try to make it happen. As project kde did I will use am2cmake ruby script for automatic translation and the fix things by

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-08-08 Thread Mukund Sivaraman
Hi Kevin On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 05:04:33PM +0200, Nils Philippsen wrote: One advantage of CMake you didn't list is how it can do builds to a sub-directory of the source tree. I found this helpful when building a standard version of Blender and an experimental version with some added

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-08-07 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 13:42 -0400, Kevin Cozens wrote: On 12-08-06 04:56 AM, Shlomi Fish wrote: Now my page ( http://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/anti/autohell/ ) gives many valid reasons why CMake is superior and GNU Autotools is inferior, and as a result concludes it is valid to

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-08-06 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Patrick, On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 20:30:29 -0700 Patrick Horgan phorg...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/04/2012 02:43 AM, Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi Patrick, ...elision by patrick... Well, calling GNU Autotools Autohell is not an ad-hominem attack. However, assuming that since I called it Autohell

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-08-06 Thread Michael Schumacher
Von: Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com I'm glad that you're having tons of fun discussing deep philosophical standpoints, but for the mere mortals... TL;DR: should I be adding We like autotools and think you should apologize for calling them autohell to our new FAQ? Add

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-08-06 Thread Patrick Horgan
On 08/05/2012 10:56 PM, gg wrote: ... elision by patrick ... Patrick, you refer to a pseudo encyclopaedia but fail to read the very first line: An ad hominem (Latin for to the man) short for argumentum ad hominem, is an attempt to negate the truth of a claim by pointing out a negative

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-08-06 Thread Clayton Walker
STOOP ITT And don't you dare say But he started it!. On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Patrick Horgan phorg...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/05/2012 10:56 PM, gg wrote: ... elision by patrick ... Patrick, you refer to a pseudo encyclopaedia but fail to read the very first line:

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-08-06 Thread Kevin Cozens
On 12-08-06 04:56 AM, Shlomi Fish wrote: Now my page ( http://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/anti/autohell/ ) gives many valid reasons why CMake is superior and GNU Autotools is inferior, and as a result concludes it is valid to nickname Autotools Autohell as a derogatory name, just based on

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-08-04 Thread Richard Gitschlag
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 22:23:27 -0700 From: phorg...@gmail.com To: gimp-developer-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt On 07/29/2012 05:17 AM, Mukund Sivaraman wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 02:51:44PM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: Do we need

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-08-03 Thread Patrick Horgan
On 07/29/2012 05:17 AM, Mukund Sivaraman wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 02:51:44PM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: Do we need to change to CMake? Nobody has given reasons so far, just assumed that we'd like to switch to CMake. It would substitute one hell for another. Well, I have given many

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-30 Thread Malix
: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 14:55:48 +0300 From: shlo...@shlomifish.org To: parth...@gmail.com CC: gimp-developer-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt Hi Partha, On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:22:35 -0400 Partha Bagchi parth...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-30 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, July 30, 2012, 9:06:53, Malix wrote: Switching to new build system should not be linked to the fact that the former does not work, but to the best that the new works. Except that looking at CMake documentation, it makes cross-compiling GIMP much more complicated that it's at the

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread gg
On 07/29/12 02:11, Malix wrote: I already know that this post will generate a lot of flames. Next step of the project is the porting of the code to Gtk 3, why instead not switching away from gtk and go with Qt? And also leave autohell and switch to make? You can think that I'm just kidding but

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi all, On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 04:44:21 +0400 Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 4:11 AM, Malix wrote: I already know that this post will generate a lot of flames. But you do it anyway? Next step of the project is the porting of the code

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Mukund Sivaraman
Hi Shlomi On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 01:21:03PM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: In any case, I would be willing to work on porting GIMP's build system to CMake, as long as there is a general agreement from GIMP's developers that CMake will be available in addition or instead of GNU Autotools (so I

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Partha Bagchi
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Mukund Sivaraman m...@banu.com wrote: Hi Shlomi On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 01:21:03PM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: In any case, I would be willing to work on porting GIMP's build system to CMake, as long as there is a general agreement from GIMP's developers that

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Partha, On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:22:35 -0400 Partha Bagchi parth...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Mukund Sivaraman m...@banu.com wrote: Hi Shlomi On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 01:21:03PM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: In any case, I would be willing to work on porting GIMP's

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Mukund, On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:39:19 +0530 Mukund Sivaraman m...@banu.com wrote: Hi Shlomi On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 01:21:03PM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: In any case, I would be willing to work on porting GIMP's build system to CMake, as long as there is a general agreement from GIMP's

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, July 29, 2012, 13:55:48, Shlomi Fish wrote: CMake can generate GNU make-compatible makefiles just fine, so unless you meant GNU Automake, that's not the issue. CMake can also generate project files for other IDEs and support some other build-systems, all from the same sources, so

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Partha Bagchi
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Jernej Simončič jer...@ena.si wrote: On Sunday, July 29, 2012, 13:55:48, Shlomi Fish wrote: CMake can generate GNU make-compatible makefiles just fine, so unless you meant GNU Automake, that's not the issue. CMake can also generate project files for other

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012, Partha Bagchi wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Jernej Simončič jer...@ena.si wrote: On Sunday, July 29, 2012, 13:55:48, Shlomi Fish wrote: CMake can generate GNU make-compatible makefiles just fine, so unless you meant GNU Automake, that's not the issue. CMake can

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Partha Bagchi
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Boudewijn Rempt b...@valdyas.org wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012, Partha Bagchi wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Jernej Simončič jer...@ena.si wrote: On Sunday, July 29, 2012, 13:55:48, Shlomi Fish wrote: CMake can generate GNU make-compatible makefiles

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Isaac Wagner
Autotools may be unpleasant to learn, but once it works, it works, and it works well for GIMP. If you were starting a new project then you might have grounds to think about picking an easier build tool, but why throw away all the work already put into GIMP's use of autotools because autotools is

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-29 Thread Kevin Cozens
On 12-07-29 06:21 AM, Shlomi Fish wrote: In any case, I would be willing to work on porting GIMP's build system to CMake, as long as there is a general agreement from GIMP's developers that CMake will be available in addition or instead of GNU Autotools (so I won't work for naught). My one

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-28 Thread Malix
Ops my phone wrongly change this: And also leave autohell and switch to cmake Il giorno 29/lug/2012 02:11, Malix mal...@gmail.com ha scritto: I already know that this post will generate a lot of flames. Next step of the project is the porting of the code to Gtk 3, why instead not switching

Re: [Gimp-developer] What about switching from Gtk+ to Qt

2012-07-28 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 4:11 AM, Malix wrote: I already know that this post will generate a lot of flames. But you do it anyway? Next step of the project is the porting of the code to Gtk 3 It started over a year ago, it's just lower priority right now. why instead not switching away from