пт, 16 нояб. 2018 г., 23:19 Simone Karin Lehmann sim...@lisanet.de:
> …
>
> "We don't do "release dates" :) We release when it's ready.“
>
> Niccolo still answers, IMO, very politely
and explains why, in his opinion, he thinks planned release dates are
> better than solely saying "we don't do
Now when reading you people, I can understand why
is it that Guido stepped down from being the Python head.
And why the GIMP dev team really have an option of being more recluse -
I should tell you that I'd be in the same category of Prokoudine -
mention GIMP as "us", although my code
It is very sad that this exchange of opinions ended up this way. GIMP is an
open source software and is developed by volunteers, so time is better
spent in developing than fighting. I like timebox releases as Ubuntu, but
as said by Alexander after 2.10 release they found a new development model
Thanks for updating
Il giorno mer 14 nov 2018 alle ore 13:51 Alexandre Prokoudine via
gimp-developer-list ha scritto:
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 4:02 AM Massimo Fidanza via gimp-developer-list <
> gimp-developer-list@gnome.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi, the wiki page
I think this sums up my (and many other people's) sentiment perfectly:
> To me it seems, that if a user, who doesn't contribute to GIMP, and uses
the slightest words of critisism of GIMP will easily run into a situation
where he gets told between the lines, that he’s a dumb user, who doesn’t
know
hhmm, well, just reading this whole thread here on the gimp-devel mailing list
and on reddit, I really have to admit that Niccolo is right.
The very first posting of Niccolo on reddit, that I can find is an answer to
another user about a new version for Arch Linux, in which he simply says
"No
Wondering if we'll receive an auto update or..do we need to uninstall .6
and reinstall .8 ?? Julie B On Fri, 09 Nov 2018 10:19:31 -0800 Michael
Natterer wrote On Fri, 2018-11-09 at 19:07 +0100, Michael
Natterer wrote: > Hi, > > We just released GIMP 2.10.8, the second bugfix
>
>
> Everything started because I was called a "backseat viewer", and therefore
> not allowed to say that scheduled releases are good. After that I was
> replying to that attitude, and not about whether rolling releases are
> better (which I had an extremely open mind about).
>
You said all
And again, nothing is learned. More name calling, and it's everyone else
that's the problem.
If anyone else wondering why the sarcasm all the time, look in the mirror.
lol
On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 4:25 PM Niccolo Brogi wrote:
> Fair enough. I guess people (total of 3 different people) that
You've been wonderful.
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 3:18 PM Alexandre Prokoudine <
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 2:47 PM C R wrote:
>
>> Well clearly he was harassing you with his facts and sarcasm.
>>
>> You'll pull through though. I believe in you!
>> I've got to
I know, I know. Just saying. It would also have been funnier without the
"trauma" part, ex. "I'm glad you found a support group.".
Alright, see you. Bye.
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 12:47 PM C R wrote:
> Well clearly he was harassing you with his facts and sarcasm.
>
> You'll pull through though.
Why, Alexandre causes trauma..? I thought he was nice.
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 12:40 PM C R wrote:
> Happy you've found that support group you were looking for. :)
>
> Wishing you a speedy trauma recovery,
> -C
>
> On Fri, 16 Nov 2018, 11:04 Niccolo Brogi
>> ...in the meantime, I'm getting
...in the meantime, I'm getting emails from people that see the whole thing
exactly like me, and I assume fear harassment and won't say it out loud.
How sad is this culture you've created.
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 9:50 AM C R wrote:
> As someone who has worked many years alongside (at the desk
I already replied (I think you forgot to copy others), but here is that I
said:
> Let's start with this: "by not setting dates to releases we
tell users to "f*** off"
> Did you say that? Did you edit it away after the fact?
> Don't feign innocence, you're not convincing anyone.
I've already
Not so, I listened to what you said. Like I said many times, I change my
mind like a flag in the middle of the storm, and you do have a positive
attitude to not stop this natural process of mine.
You ended your reply with "you were a dick", I said that I have 3 more.
It's 4 or us so far, then.
Fine with me.
On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 5:43 PM Alexandre Prokoudine <
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 7:35 PM Niccolo Brogi wrote:
>
>> Not so, I listened to what you said. Like I said many times, I change my
>> mind like a flag in the middle of the storm, and
What falsehoods have I been spreading?
On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 5:39 PM C R wrote:
> I said spreading falsehoods about GIMP was a "dick move", and it is.
> I ended my last reply with "look in the mirror" as in, look how you're
> treating people in the GIMP community. Is that how you want to be
Fair enough. I guess people (total of 3 different people) that PMed me are
dicks, too.
On Thu, Nov 15, 2018, 16:59 C R wrote:
>
>> Everything started because I was called a "backseat viewer", and
>> therefore not allowed to say that scheduled releases are good. After that I
>> was replying to
GIMP is maintained by a single guy with another handful of developers.
It definitely is a fab piece of software.
On Thu, Nov 15, 2018, 17:06 Chris Moller wrote:
> I haven't a clue if the GIMP devs are paid for doing it or if it's just
> something they do but, regardless, it's a fabulous piece
Nope.
Everything started because I was called a "backseat viewer", and therefore
not allowed to say that scheduled releases are good. After that I was
replying to that attitude, and not about whether rolling releases are
better (which I had an extremely open mind about).
The message you quoted
> I will have to point out that name-calling, which you once again went
for, is not welcome on our mailing lists as per code of conduct
Ah, I see how you've been able to get away with it.
Fair enough.
On Thu, Nov 15, 2018, 15:01 Alexandre Prokoudine <
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
Regarding CCing people, my thread hasn't been approved, so I don't know if
people can read it.
Regarding the rest, you don't have to present exhibits, we're not in court.
I'm giving you feedback about your behavior as someone who represents the
whole team (unless I got your pronuons wrong, you
OK. If you're bad at talking to people (since people come with
misconceptions although you could easily change that), as someone who
doesn't only speak for himself, you should just not talk to people.
It's also not just me, many people have the same problem with you. I guess
it's you against the
Hello.
TLDR:
Alexandre attacks GIMP critics around the internet implying that he's a
developer of GIMP and represents GIMP, using language and doing things that
are completely inappropriate for his (self-proclaimed?) role, which makes
the whole GIMP team look like crap for no reason.
FULL:
A
Hi,
I’m nobody in particular, I don’t even use GIMP, but for some reason I’m
tuned in to this conversation and haven’t bothered unsubscribing ... BUT
might I offer a suggestion:
1 — it seems to me the most relevant points are as follows:
— it is vital to be able to critique the product in order
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 2:47 PM C R wrote:
> Well clearly he was harassing you with his facts and sarcasm.
>
> You'll pull through though. I believe in you!
> I've got to go now though. Have fun with whatever this is.
>
I'm afraid I've been giving a bad example how to deal with abusive users.
> Am 16.11.2018 um 12:46 C R via gimp-developer-list
> :
>
> Well clearly he was harassing you with his facts and sarcasm.
>
> You'll pull through though. I believe in you!
> I've got to go now though. Have fun with whatever this is.
>
Thank you for your sarcasm. And most of all, thanks for
Well clearly he was harassing you with his facts and sarcasm.
You'll pull through though. I believe in you!
I've got to go now though. Have fun with whatever this is.
(thread muted)
-C
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018, 11:42 Niccolo Brogi Why, Alexandre causes trauma..? I thought he was nice.
>
> On Fri,
As someone who has worked many years alongside (at the desk next to)
customer service reps, I can verify that no amount of organisation or
pleasantries can quell the entitlement of anyone who thinks you owe them
something. Be that x feature in GIMP, or x release date for the next GIMP.
People are
пт, 16 нояб. 2018 г., 6:40 Trevor Rose tarose.tre...@gmail.com:
>
> 3 — the solution to the problem is to tighten up your communications
> channels, and to use some other technology rather than just an email group,
> and in which alternative system a person must be logged in, and each post,
>
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