Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.9 XCF files and digiKam, gnome file browsers, etc

2016-03-19 Thread Michael Natterer
On Tue, 2016-03-15 at 13:18 -0400, Elle Stone wrote:
> On 03/15/2016 10:51 AM, Kevin Payne wrote:
> > 
> > A very quick bit of rummaging round in source code leads me to
> > libgimpthumb\gimpthumb-utils.c
> > 
> > Where it shows a fall-back if the thumbnails directory cannot be
> > created - it uses the tmp dir instead.
> > 
> > Kevin
> Hmm, 
> https://specifications.freedesktop.org/thumbnail-spec/thumbnail-spec-
> latest.html#DIRECTORY 
> says the "normal" place for the thumbnail directory is 
> $XDG_CACHE_HOME/thumbnails/ and the "normal" location for 
> $XDG_CACHE_HOME is /$HOME/.cache.
> 
> For whatever reason on my computer $XDG_CACHE_HOME is set to 
> /tmp/elle/.cache. So that's probably why GIMP is writing thumbnails
> to 
> the tmp folder.

You should fix that. Whatever is setting your XDG_CACHE_GOME to
/tmp/something is doing so wrongly, or at least not sanely :)

> If I start GIMP by adding the line:
> 
> export XDG_CACHE_HOME=/home/elle/.cache
> 
> then GIMP saves thumbnails to /home/elle/.cache/thumbnails.
> 
> The thumbnail contains information that points to the corresponding
> XCF 
> file, for example:
> 
> Description : Thumbnail of 
> file:///home/elle/edit/digiKam/working/080810-2252-1855-house-
> rainbow.xcf
> Software : GIMP 2.9.3
> Thumb URI : 
> file:///home/elle/edit/digiKam/working/080810-2252-1855-house-
> rainbow.xcf
> 
> digiKam doesn't offer the option of adding a hidden folder to the
> database.
> 
> Copying the thumbnail folder to a folder that digiKam monitors and 
> trying to open the correspoinding XCF file by opening the the
> thumbnail 
> just opens the thumbnail itself, not the XCF file.
> 
> Are there any image/file browsers that can use the uri location 
> information in the thumbnail to open the corresponding XCF file
> rather 
> than the actual thumbnail png?
> 
> I mean besides Nautilus. I don't want to install Nautilus on my
> computer 
> as it would mean making considerable changes to my Gentoo
> installation.

We use the folders specified in the freedektop thumbnail
managing spec, that's not going to change. You should file
bugs against desktop components that don't follow the
standard.

> As an aside, 
> https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-late
> st.html 
> says $XDG_CACHE_HOME is for "user-specific non-essential (cached)
> data".
> 
> It seems to me that the thumbnails that make it possible to browse
> one's 
> XCF files don't count as "non-essential". As it is, for the
> thumbnails 
> to be useful I'd have to use GIMP to recreate thumbnails for the 500
> or 
> so XCF files currently indexed by digiKam, and that would take an 
> enormouse amount of time to accomplish.

Thumbnails are by definition non-essential because they can be
recreated, and that's why they live in ~/.cache, you only need
to make sure your cache is at the persistent default location.

> Thumbnail browsing is at best a temporary and fragile workaround for 
> using an image DAM software like digiKam, that can make its own 
> thumbnails (except for GIMP 2.9 XCF files), or at least can read a 
> thumbnail already embedded in the image file.
> 
> Are GIMP 2.9 XCF files saved to disk with embedded thumbnails?

That's on the TODO, but there are so many things on the TODO...

Regards,
--Mitch

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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.9 XCF files and digiKam, gnome file browsers, etc

2016-03-15 Thread Elle Stone

On 03/15/2016 10:51 AM, Kevin Payne wrote:

A very quick bit of rummaging round in source code leads me to 
libgimpthumb\gimpthumb-utils.c

Where it shows a fall-back if the thumbnails directory cannot be created - it 
uses the tmp dir instead.

Kevin


Hmm, 
https://specifications.freedesktop.org/thumbnail-spec/thumbnail-spec-latest.html#DIRECTORY 
says the "normal" place for the thumbnail directory is 
$XDG_CACHE_HOME/thumbnails/ and the "normal" location for 
$XDG_CACHE_HOME is /$HOME/.cache.


For whatever reason on my computer $XDG_CACHE_HOME is set to 
/tmp/elle/.cache. So that's probably why GIMP is writing thumbnails to 
the tmp folder.


If I start GIMP by adding the line:

export XDG_CACHE_HOME=/home/elle/.cache

then GIMP saves thumbnails to /home/elle/.cache/thumbnails.

The thumbnail contains information that points to the corresponding XCF 
file, for example:


Description : Thumbnail of 
file:///home/elle/edit/digiKam/working/080810-2252-1855-house-rainbow.xcf

Software : GIMP 2.9.3
Thumb URI : 
file:///home/elle/edit/digiKam/working/080810-2252-1855-house-rainbow.xcf


digiKam doesn't offer the option of adding a hidden folder to the database.

Copying the thumbnail folder to a folder that digiKam monitors and 
trying to open the correspoinding XCF file by opening the the thumbnail 
just opens the thumbnail itself, not the XCF file.


Are there any image/file browsers that can use the uri location 
information in the thumbnail to open the corresponding XCF file rather 
than the actual thumbnail png?


I mean besides Nautilus. I don't want to install Nautilus on my computer 
as it would mean making considerable changes to my Gentoo installation.


As an aside, 
https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html 
says $XDG_CACHE_HOME is for "user-specific non-essential (cached) data".


It seems to me that the thumbnails that make it possible to browse one's 
XCF files don't count as "non-essential". As it is, for the thumbnails 
to be useful I'd have to use GIMP to recreate thumbnails for the 500 or 
so XCF files currently indexed by digiKam, and that would take an 
enormouse amount of time to accomplish.


Thumbnail browsing is at best a temporary and fragile workaround for 
using an image DAM software like digiKam, that can make its own 
thumbnails (except for GIMP 2.9 XCF files), or at least can read a 
thumbnail already embedded in the image file.


Are GIMP 2.9 XCF files saved to disk with embedded thumbnails?

Best,
Elle
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.9 XCF files and digiKam, gnome file browsers, etc

2016-03-15 Thread Kevin Payne
A very quick bit of rummaging round in source code leads me to 
libgimpthumb\gimpthumb-utils.c

Where it shows a fall-back if the thumbnails directory cannot be created - it 
uses the tmp dir instead.

Kevin



From: Elle Stone <ellest...@ninedegreesbelow.com>
Sent: 15 March 2016 14:32
To: Kevin Payne; Gimp-developer
Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.9 XCF files and digiKam, gnome file 
browsers, etc

On 03/15/2016 09:52 AM, Kevin Payne wrote:
> And just for the sake of pointless change, in 2.9.3.??? It's 
> Preferences>>System Resources
>
> Thumbnail creation is controlled by the "Image Thumbnails" option on 
> Preferences>>Environment
>
> Presumably on a Linux system they are saved in ~/.thumbnails (On my Windows 
> system it's C:\Users\username\.thumbnails )
>
> Kevin
>

Kevin, thanks! That provided a clue as to where the thumbnails might be.
I think they are being saved to "tmp" and so erased upon restarting the
computer.

Earlier today I saw the folder ".thumbnails" in my home folder. It
contained two subfolders, one called "large" and I forget what the other
one was called. Using Geeqie to take a look, there were a bunch of pngs
inside, I'm guessing from files that I worked with a long time ago. I
put this folder in the trash as the contents were useless.

I started GIMP 2.9 and opened a file. The dolphin file browser shows a
newly created folder called ".thumbnails" in my home folder, with one
subfolder called "large". GIMP created thumbnails for the XCF files that
I clicked on, but nothing was saved to the folder
"/home/elle/.thumbnails/large". As far as I could tell no other new
folder was created anywhere in my home folder.

Here are my System Resources settings:

Image Thumbnails: Size of thumbnails: Large, Maximum filesize for
thumbnailing: 512MB.

Document History "Keep record of used files in the Recent Documents
list" is checked.

The "Document History" setting doesn't actually sound relevant. Is it?

On a hunch, I checked the "tmp" folder. It seems that this is where the
GIMP thumbnails are being saved to "disk". But the tmp folder on my
computer is actually only in RAM, and all the files disappear when the
computer is restarted.

So is there some setting in Preferences that I accidentally might have
set, that tells GIMP 2.9 to save the thumbnails to "tmp" instead of to
".thumbnails"?

Best,
Elle
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.9 XCF files and digiKam, gnome file browsers, etc

2016-03-15 Thread Elle Stone

On 03/15/2016 09:56 AM, wwp wrote:

Hello Elle,


On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 17:53:42 -0500 Elle Stone  
wrote:


Does anyone know of *any* image viewer that can display a thumbnail for GIMP 
2.9 XCF files?


XnViewMP does.



Are you saying that the closed-source freeware XnViewMP can actually 
*create* and display a thumbnail for a GIMP 2.9 XCF file? Or maybe it's 
using the thumbnails generated by GIMP (and apparently not saved to the 
right location on my computer)?


If XnViewMP creates thumbnails from XCF files, can it create a thumbnail 
even if the XCF file is saved as a 32-bit floating point file or with 
other features not compatible with GIMP 2.8?


Best,
Elle





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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.9 XCF files and digiKam, gnome file browsers, etc

2016-03-15 Thread Elle Stone

On 03/15/2016 09:52 AM, Kevin Payne wrote:

And just for the sake of pointless change, in 2.9.3.??? It's 
Preferences>>System Resources

Thumbnail creation is controlled by the "Image Thumbnails" option on 
Preferences>>Environment

Presumably on a Linux system they are saved in ~/.thumbnails (On my Windows 
system it's C:\Users\username\.thumbnails )

Kevin



Kevin, thanks! That provided a clue as to where the thumbnails might be. 
I think they are being saved to "tmp" and so erased upon restarting the 
computer.


Earlier today I saw the folder ".thumbnails" in my home folder. It 
contained two subfolders, one called "large" and I forget what the other 
one was called. Using Geeqie to take a look, there were a bunch of pngs 
inside, I'm guessing from files that I worked with a long time ago. I 
put this folder in the trash as the contents were useless.


I started GIMP 2.9 and opened a file. The dolphin file browser shows a 
newly created folder called ".thumbnails" in my home folder, with one 
subfolder called "large". GIMP created thumbnails for the XCF files that 
I clicked on, but nothing was saved to the folder 
"/home/elle/.thumbnails/large". As far as I could tell no other new 
folder was created anywhere in my home folder.


Here are my System Resources settings:

Image Thumbnails: Size of thumbnails: Large, Maximum filesize for 
thumbnailing: 512MB.


Document History "Keep record of used files in the Recent Documents 
list" is checked.


The "Document History" setting doesn't actually sound relevant. Is it?

On a hunch, I checked the "tmp" folder. It seems that this is where the 
GIMP thumbnails are being saved to "disk". But the tmp folder on my 
computer is actually only in RAM, and all the files disappear when the 
computer is restarted.


So is there some setting in Preferences that I accidentally might have 
set, that tells GIMP 2.9 to save the thumbnails to "tmp" instead of to 
".thumbnails"?


Best,
Elle
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.9 XCF files and digiKam, gnome file browsers, etc

2016-03-15 Thread Kevin Payne
And just for the sake of pointless change, in 2.9.3.??? It's 
Preferences>>System Resources

Kevin


From: gimp-developer-list <gimp-developer-list-boun...@gnome.org> on behalf of 
Kevin Payne <payn...@hotmail.com>
Sent: 15 March 2016 13:49
To: Elle Stone; Gimp-developer
Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.9 XCF files and digiKam, gnome file 
browsers, etc

Thumbnail creation is controlled by the "Image Thumbnails" option on 
Preferences>>Environment

Presumably on a Linux system they are saved in ~/.thumbnails (On my Windows 
system it's C:\Users\username\.thumbnails )

Kevin



From: gimp-developer-list <gimp-developer-list-boun...@gnome.org> on behalf of 
Elle Stone <ellest...@ninedegreesbelow.com>
Sent: 15 March 2016 13:42
To: Michael Natterer; Gimp-developer
Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.9 XCF files and digiKam, gnome file 
browsers, etc

On 01/04/2016 04:39 PM, Michael Natterer wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-01-04 at 14:13 -0500, Elle Stone wrote:
>> On 01/03/2016 06:41 PM, Michael Natterer wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2016-01-03 at 17:53 -0500, Elle Stone wrote:
>>>> Does anyone know of *any* image viewer that can display a
>>>> thumbnail
>>>> for
>>>> GIMP 2.9 XCF files?
>>>
>>> I don't know, but they should at least show the thumbnails
>>> created by GIMP. I hope that works across apps, it does work
>>> in nautilus.
>>>
>>> --Mitch
>>
>> By "thumbnails" do you mean thumbnails created by Nautilus? or
>> thumbnails created by GIMP and put in a hidden folder in the user's
>> home
>> folder (assuming the user has chosen in Preferences/System Resources
>> to
>> actually save Image Thumbnails)?
>
> I meant thumbnails created by GIMP, which uses the same standard
> folders as nautilus, so nautilus should show them.
>

I just asked GIMP to create some new thumbnails of GIMP XCF files. But I
haven't been able to locate them using the Dolphin file browser.

Where are the GIMP thumbnails stored? And what's the file extension? As
far as I can tell, GIMP 2.9/2.10 seems to "forget" about whatever
thumbnails it creates just as soon as GIMP is closed. Is there a setting
in Preferences that needs to be (re)set? Is it the Document History" option?

I don't know what folders Nautilus uses and I'm not willing to install
Nautilus to find out. But if GIMP creates thumbnails (pngs?) and puts
them in a specific folder, I can ask digiKam to monitor that folder. Or
rather maybe I can copy the thumbnails over to the folders where I keep
the XCF files.

Best,
Elle



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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.9 XCF files and digiKam, gnome file browsers, etc

2016-03-15 Thread wwp
Hello Elle,


On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 17:53:42 -0500 Elle Stone  
wrote:

> Does anyone know of *any* image viewer that can display a thumbnail for GIMP 
> 2.9 XCF files?

XnViewMP does.


Regards,

-- 
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.9 XCF files and digiKam, gnome file browsers, etc

2016-03-15 Thread Kevin Payne
Thumbnail creation is controlled by the "Image Thumbnails" option on 
Preferences>>Environment

Presumably on a Linux system they are saved in ~/.thumbnails (On my Windows 
system it's C:\Users\username\.thumbnails )

Kevin



From: gimp-developer-list <gimp-developer-list-boun...@gnome.org> on behalf of 
Elle Stone <ellest...@ninedegreesbelow.com>
Sent: 15 March 2016 13:42
To: Michael Natterer; Gimp-developer
Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.9 XCF files and digiKam, gnome file 
browsers, etc

On 01/04/2016 04:39 PM, Michael Natterer wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-01-04 at 14:13 -0500, Elle Stone wrote:
>> On 01/03/2016 06:41 PM, Michael Natterer wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2016-01-03 at 17:53 -0500, Elle Stone wrote:
>>>> Does anyone know of *any* image viewer that can display a
>>>> thumbnail
>>>> for
>>>> GIMP 2.9 XCF files?
>>>
>>> I don't know, but they should at least show the thumbnails
>>> created by GIMP. I hope that works across apps, it does work
>>> in nautilus.
>>>
>>> --Mitch
>>
>> By "thumbnails" do you mean thumbnails created by Nautilus? or
>> thumbnails created by GIMP and put in a hidden folder in the user's
>> home
>> folder (assuming the user has chosen in Preferences/System Resources
>> to
>> actually save Image Thumbnails)?
>
> I meant thumbnails created by GIMP, which uses the same standard
> folders as nautilus, so nautilus should show them.
>

I just asked GIMP to create some new thumbnails of GIMP XCF files. But I
haven't been able to locate them using the Dolphin file browser.

Where are the GIMP thumbnails stored? And what's the file extension? As
far as I can tell, GIMP 2.9/2.10 seems to "forget" about whatever
thumbnails it creates just as soon as GIMP is closed. Is there a setting
in Preferences that needs to be (re)set? Is it the Document History" option?

I don't know what folders Nautilus uses and I'm not willing to install
Nautilus to find out. But if GIMP creates thumbnails (pngs?) and puts
them in a specific folder, I can ask digiKam to monitor that folder. Or
rather maybe I can copy the thumbnails over to the folders where I keep
the XCF files.

Best,
Elle



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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.9 XCF files and digiKam, gnome file browsers, etc

2016-03-15 Thread Elle Stone

On 01/04/2016 04:39 PM, Michael Natterer wrote:

On Mon, 2016-01-04 at 14:13 -0500, Elle Stone wrote:

On 01/03/2016 06:41 PM, Michael Natterer wrote:

On Sun, 2016-01-03 at 17:53 -0500, Elle Stone wrote:

Does anyone know of *any* image viewer that can display a
thumbnail
for
GIMP 2.9 XCF files?


I don't know, but they should at least show the thumbnails
created by GIMP. I hope that works across apps, it does work
in nautilus.

--Mitch


By "thumbnails" do you mean thumbnails created by Nautilus? or
thumbnails created by GIMP and put in a hidden folder in the user's
home
folder (assuming the user has chosen in Preferences/System Resources
to
actually save Image Thumbnails)?


I meant thumbnails created by GIMP, which uses the same standard
folders as nautilus, so nautilus should show them.



I just asked GIMP to create some new thumbnails of GIMP XCF files. But I 
haven't been able to locate them using the Dolphin file browser.


Where are the GIMP thumbnails stored? And what's the file extension? As 
far as I can tell, GIMP 2.9/2.10 seems to "forget" about whatever 
thumbnails it creates just as soon as GIMP is closed. Is there a setting 
in Preferences that needs to be (re)set? Is it the Document History" option?


I don't know what folders Nautilus uses and I'm not willing to install 
Nautilus to find out. But if GIMP creates thumbnails (pngs?) and puts 
them in a specific folder, I can ask digiKam to monitor that folder. Or 
rather maybe I can copy the thumbnails over to the folders where I keep 
the XCF files.


Best,
Elle



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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.9 XCF files and digiKam, gnome file browsers, etc

2016-01-06 Thread Akkana Peck
Related question: is there any chance the gdk_pixbuf_* functions
will ever support XCF, e.g. in gdk_pixbuf_new_from_file()?
Then at least some image viewers would get support for free.

...Akkana
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.9 XCF files and digiKam, gnome file browsers, etc

2016-01-05 Thread Joseph Bupe
How about this:
https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2015/11/05/native-file-choosers-in-gtk/
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.9 XCF files and digiKam, gnome file browsers, etc

2016-01-05 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Joseph Bupe  wrote:
> How about this:
> https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2015/11/05/native-file-choosers-in-gtk/
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.9 XCF files and digiKam, gnome file browsers, etc

2016-01-05 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Joseph Bupe wrote:
> How about this:
> https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2015/11/05/native-file-choosers-in-gtk/

Not going to be used until work on the GTK+3 port resumes 9after 2.10 release).

Also, not relevant to this discussion, perhaps? :)

Alex
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.9 XCF files and digiKam, gnome file browsers, etc

2016-01-04 Thread Elle Stone

On 01/03/2016 06:41 PM, Michael Natterer wrote:

On Sun, 2016-01-03 at 17:53 -0500, Elle Stone wrote:

Does anyone know of *any* image viewer that can display a thumbnail
for
GIMP 2.9 XCF files?


I don't know, but they should at least show the thumbnails
created by GIMP. I hope that works across apps, it does work
in nautilus.

--Mitch


By "thumbnails" do you mean thumbnails created by Nautilus? or 
thumbnails created by GIMP and put in a hidden folder in the user's home 
folder (assuming the user has chosen in Preferences/System Resources to 
actually save Image Thumbnails)?


elle
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.9 XCF files and digiKam, gnome file browsers, etc

2016-01-04 Thread Boudewijn Rempt

yn Sun, 3 Jan 2016, Elle Stone wrote:


On 01/03/2016 03:04 AM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote:

On Sat, 2 Jan 2016, Elle Stone wrote:



I'd like to ask the digiKam devs to provide support for showing a
thumbnail for GIMP 2.9 XCF files. But if the XCF files are likely to
change substantially before 2.10 is released, maybe now is not a good
time.



Digikam actually has't got to implement anything itself for that to
work. The thumbnails are generated by KIO plugin, the full image view by
QImageIO plugins. Check git://anongit.kde.org/kimageformats for the
imageio plugins (I should move the Krita imageio plugins there...) and
https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kio-extras.git=tree=d2127aa55d72bfde4c269c75a91a721159548ff6=3d8409f93830cb9bf658bd0648b7b1db3dd5c684=thumbnail
for the thumbnailers.



Boudewijn, thanks! for the information. On KDE bugzilla, would a request for 
supporting GIMP 2.9 XCF files go under "product: kdelibs, component: kimgio"?


I think it's rather frameworks-kimageformats

Is there any kind of concensus as to whether the GIMP 2.9 XCF file format 
stable enough that it would it be worth filing a bug report/enhancement 
request for support for GIMP 2.9 XCF files?


I don't know :-) I would personally wait until the stable release.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.9 XCF files and digiKam, gnome file browsers, etc

2016-01-04 Thread Michael Natterer
On Mon, 2016-01-04 at 14:13 -0500, Elle Stone wrote:
> On 01/03/2016 06:41 PM, Michael Natterer wrote:
> > On Sun, 2016-01-03 at 17:53 -0500, Elle Stone wrote:
> > > Does anyone know of *any* image viewer that can display a
> > > thumbnail
> > > for
> > > GIMP 2.9 XCF files?
> > 
> > I don't know, but they should at least show the thumbnails
> > created by GIMP. I hope that works across apps, it does work
> > in nautilus.
> > 
> > --Mitch
> 
> By "thumbnails" do you mean thumbnails created by Nautilus? or 
> thumbnails created by GIMP and put in a hidden folder in the user's
> home 
> folder (assuming the user has chosen in Preferences/System Resources
> to 
> actually save Image Thumbnails)?

I meant thumbnails created by GIMP, which uses the same standard
folders as nautilus, so nautilus should show them.

--Mitch

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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.9 XCF files and digiKam, gnome file browsers, etc

2016-01-03 Thread Elle Stone
Does anyone know of *any* image viewer that can display a thumbnail for 
GIMP 2.9 XCF files?


Elle

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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.9 XCF files and digiKam, gnome file browsers, etc

2016-01-03 Thread Michael Natterer
On Sun, 2016-01-03 at 17:53 -0500, Elle Stone wrote:
> Does anyone know of *any* image viewer that can display a thumbnail
> for 
> GIMP 2.9 XCF files?

I don't know, but they should at least show the thumbnails
created by GIMP. I hope that works across apps, it does work
in nautilus.

--Mitch


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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.9 XCF files and digiKam, gnome file browsers, etc

2016-01-03 Thread Boudewijn Rempt

On Sat, 2 Jan 2016, Elle Stone wrote:

Is the GIMP 2.9 XCF file format? API? (not sure what the right phrase is) 
stable enough that it makes sense to hope that other applications like 
digiKam and various other file browsers and image viewers could start showing 
thumbnails?


For example, digiKam can create thumbnails for 2.8 XCF files but not for 2.9 
XCF files.


I'd like to ask the digiKam devs to provide support for showing a thumbnail 
for GIMP 2.9 XCF files. But if the XCF files are likely to change 
substantially before 2.10 is released, maybe now is not a good time.




Digikam actually has't got to implement anything itself for that to work. The thumbnails are 
generated by KIO plugin, the full image view by QImageIO plugins. Check 
git://anongit.kde.org/kimageformats for the imageio plugins (I should move the Krita imageio 
plugins there...) and 
https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kio-extras.git=tree=d2127aa55d72bfde4c269c75a91a721159548ff6=3d8409f93830cb9bf658bd0648b7b1db3dd5c684=thumbnail
 for the thumbnailers.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.9 XCF files and digiKam, gnome file browsers, etc

2016-01-03 Thread Elle Stone

On 01/03/2016 03:04 AM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote:

On Sat, 2 Jan 2016, Elle Stone wrote:



I'd like to ask the digiKam devs to provide support for showing a
thumbnail for GIMP 2.9 XCF files. But if the XCF files are likely to
change substantially before 2.10 is released, maybe now is not a good
time.



Digikam actually has't got to implement anything itself for that to
work. The thumbnails are generated by KIO plugin, the full image view by
QImageIO plugins. Check git://anongit.kde.org/kimageformats for the
imageio plugins (I should move the Krita imageio plugins there...) and
https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kio-extras.git=tree=d2127aa55d72bfde4c269c75a91a721159548ff6=3d8409f93830cb9bf658bd0648b7b1db3dd5c684=thumbnail
for the thumbnailers.



Boudewijn, thanks! for the information. On KDE bugzilla, would a request 
for supporting GIMP 2.9 XCF files go under "product: kdelibs, component: 
kimgio"?


Is there any kind of concensus as to whether the GIMP 2.9 XCF file 
format stable enough that it would it be worth filing a bug 
report/enhancement request for support for GIMP 2.9 XCF files?



Elle
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