Re: [Gimp-developer] how to build json-glib in a prefix when building gimp from git in a prefix?

2018-09-30 Thread Elle Stone
Many thanks to everyone who helped sort out how to build json-glib. I 
did finally manage to build json-glib in a prefix on Gentoo, using these 
commands:


$PREFIX=PREFIX=$HOME/code-install/gimp299/install
cd json-glib
mkdir build
cd build
meson --prefix=$PREFIX ..
ninja install

Best,
Elle

On 09/30/2018 06:36 AM, Ken Moffat via gimp-developer-list wrote:

On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 10:44:38AM +0200, wwp wrote:

Hello Ken,


Hi wwp,


On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 02:33:34 +0100 Ken Moffat via gimp-developer-list 
 wrote:


On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 12:00:40AM +0100, Ken Moffat via gimp-developer-list 
wrote:

On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 06:21:36PM -0400, Elle Stone wrote:


I don't know what version json-glib from git is on. I cloned it as follows:
git clone https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/json-glib But I'd be happy to
download a specific tarball, if anyone knows what version of json-glib is
currently required by GIMP.
   

Are you sure you need json-glib ?



Json-glib *is* needed to build gimp 2.10. I build gimp 2.8/2.10 on
CentOS 6 and 7 boxes, where no package is available (for the latest 2.8
and 2.10 at all), and I build quite all the necessary deps (it's a lot
and the cross-deps are a nightmare), json-glib is required at some
step. From what I see in my build script, gegl 0.3/0.4 need it.



Yeah, you are right.  I thought it must be a new dep for gimp
itself.  And I didn't remember using it.  But now that I look at my
scripts I can see that it is GEGL which needs it.

So for Elle, the version is whatever your GEGL needs.  A quick look
at https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gegl/blob/master/configure.ac
suggests json-glib-1.0 which both json-glib-1.2 and -1.4 (and
probably even -1.0) provided.

ĸen




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Re: [Gimp-developer] how to build json-glib in a prefix when building gimp from git in a prefix?

2018-09-30 Thread Ken Moffat via gimp-developer-list
On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 10:44:38AM +0200, wwp wrote:
> Hello Ken,
> 
Hi wwp,
> 
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 02:33:34 +0100 Ken Moffat via gimp-developer-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 12:00:40AM +0100, Ken Moffat via 
> > gimp-developer-list wrote:
> > > On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 06:21:36PM -0400, Elle Stone wrote:  
> > > > 
> > > > I don't know what version json-glib from git is on. I cloned it as 
> > > > follows:
> > > > git clone https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/json-glib But I'd be happy to
> > > > download a specific tarball, if anyone knows what version of json-glib 
> > > > is
> > > > currently required by GIMP.
> > > >   
> > Are you sure you need json-glib ?
> > 
> 
> Json-glib *is* needed to build gimp 2.10. I build gimp 2.8/2.10 on
> CentOS 6 and 7 boxes, where no package is available (for the latest 2.8
> and 2.10 at all), and I build quite all the necessary deps (it's a lot
> and the cross-deps are a nightmare), json-glib is required at some
> step. From what I see in my build script, gegl 0.3/0.4 need it.
> 

Yeah, you are right.  I thought it must be a new dep for gimp
itself.  And I didn't remember using it.  But now that I look at my
scripts I can see that it is GEGL which needs it.

So for Elle, the version is whatever your GEGL needs.  A quick look
at https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gegl/blob/master/configure.ac
suggests json-glib-1.0 which both json-glib-1.2 and -1.4 (and
probably even -1.0) provided.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] how to build json-glib in a prefix when building gimp from git in a prefix?

2018-09-30 Thread wwp
Hello Ken,


On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 02:33:34 +0100 Ken Moffat via gimp-developer-list 
 wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 12:00:40AM +0100, Ken Moffat via gimp-developer-list 
> wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 06:21:36PM -0400, Elle Stone wrote:  
> > > 
> > > I don't know what version json-glib from git is on. I cloned it as 
> > > follows:
> > > git clone https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/json-glib But I'd be happy to
> > > download a specific tarball, if anyone knows what version of json-glib is
> > > currently required by GIMP.
> > >   
> Are you sure you need json-glib ?
> 
> I just cloned https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp.git a few minutes
> ago.  I cani't run ./autogen.sh (don't have gtk-doc, and no intention
> of installing that source of pain), but grepping for json-glib only
> finds:
> 
> ken@origin /scratch/ken/git/gimp $find -type f | xargs grep json-glib 
> ./build/windows/jhbuild/gimp.moduleset:package="json-glib"/>
> ./build/windows/jhbuild/misclibs.moduleset: autogen-sh="configure">
> ./build/windows/jhbuild/misclibs.moduleset:   
> module="json-glib/1.2/json-glib-1.2.2.tar.xz"
> ./build/docker/gimpbuilder-base/Dockerfile:RUN apt-get install 
> $APT_GET_OPTIONS intltool libglib2.0-dev libjson-c-dev libjson-glib-dev 
> libgexiv2-dev libcairo2-dev libpango1.0-dev libjpeg62-turbo-dev 
> libsuitesparse-dev libspiro-dev libopenexr-dev libwebp-dev
> 
> which suggests that only docker and windows need it.  And grepping
> for JSON in capitals finds some perl modules in a git hook, and
> JSON_C_LIBS references in the Makefile.am files under app/ - json-c
> (0.12.1) is again referenced in windows and docker files.

Json-glib *is* needed to build gimp 2.10. I build gimp 2.8/2.10 on
CentOS 6 and 7 boxes, where no package is available (for the latest 2.8
and 2.10 at all), and I build quite all the necessary deps (it's a lot
and the cross-deps are a nightmare), json-glib is required at some
step. From what I see in my build script, gegl 0.3/0.4 need it.


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Re: [Gimp-developer] how to build json-glib in a prefix when building gimp from git in a prefix?

2018-09-29 Thread Ken Moffat via gimp-developer-list
On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 12:00:40AM +0100, Ken Moffat via gimp-developer-list 
wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 06:21:36PM -0400, Elle Stone wrote:
> > 
> > I don't know what version json-glib from git is on. I cloned it as follows:
> > git clone https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/json-glib But I'd be happy to
> > download a specific tarball, if anyone knows what version of json-glib is
> > currently required by GIMP.
> > 
Are you sure you need json-glib ?

I just cloned https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp.git a few minutes
ago.  I cani't run ./autogen.sh (don't have gtk-doc, and no intention
of installing that source of pain), but grepping for json-glib only
finds:

ken@origin /scratch/ken/git/gimp $find -type f | xargs grep json-glib 
./build/windows/jhbuild/gimp.moduleset: 
./build/windows/jhbuild/misclibs.moduleset:
./build/windows/jhbuild/misclibs.moduleset: 
module="json-glib/1.2/json-glib-1.2.2.tar.xz"
./build/docker/gimpbuilder-base/Dockerfile:RUN apt-get install $APT_GET_OPTIONS 
intltool libglib2.0-dev libjson-c-dev libjson-glib-dev libgexiv2-dev 
libcairo2-dev libpango1.0-dev libjpeg62-turbo-dev libsuitesparse-dev 
libspiro-dev libopenexr-dev libwebp-dev

which suggests that only docker and windows need it.  And grepping
for JSON in capitals finds some perl modules in a git hook, and
JSON_C_LIBS references in the Makefile.am files under app/ - json-c
(0.12.1) is again referenced in windows and docker files.

ĸen
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Re: [Gimp-developer] how to build json-glib in a prefix when building gimp from git in a prefix?

2018-09-29 Thread Elle Stone

On 09/29/2018 05:18 PM, Ken Moffat via gimp-developer-list wrote:

On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 03:23:24PM -0400, Elle Stone wrote:

Anyone know the precise terminal commands for building json-glib in a prefix
using meson? I'm trying to update this article:

https://ninedegreesbelow.com/photography/build-gimp-in-prefix-for-artists.html

I already established the prefix using these commands:


PREFIX=$HOME/code/gimpdefault/install
export PATH=$PREFIX/bin:$PATH
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$PREFIX/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
export XDG_DATA_DIRS=$PREFIX/share:$XDG_DATA_DIRS
export ACLOCAL_FLAGS="-I $PREFIX/share/aclocal"
export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$PREFIX/lib/pkgconfig:$PKG_CONFIG_PATH
export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$PREFIX/share/pkgconfig:$PKG_CONFIG_PATH
export GIO_EXTRA_MODULES=/usr/lib64/gio/modules
export SRC_DIR=$HOME/code/gimpdefault/build

I'm building on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed. Probably I need to install meson
something or other, so does anyone know what package(s) to install? And then
of course what commands to type.

Best,

and thanks in advance for any help!

Elle


Hi Elle,

I don't know how OpenSUSE splits packages into sub-packages (-dev or
something for headers), but the upstream packages you will need are
meson, ninja, and python3.


Well, on my main computer I run Gentoo. Failing to build json-glib on 
the upstairs computer (which runs OpenSUSE), I thought I'd try on my 
main computer, but I'm having the same problems.



For building meson in /usr, see
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/general/json-glib.html

Note that is still on 1.4.2 which is probably older than what you
are going to build.


I don't know what version json-glib from git is on. I cloned it as 
follows: git clone https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/json-glib But I'd be 
happy to download a specific tarball, if anyone knows what version of 
json-glib is currently required by GIMP.



I don't think the _process_ of using meson has changed recently:
create a build directory, change to it, invoke meson with whatever
switches you need (a minimum of --prefix=) followed by .. to point
to where the meson files are.


I've never built anything using meson before. So I don't know how it was 
done before or how it should be done now. I made a directory called 
"build" within the clonse json-glib folder and cd'ed to is, and then 
used this command to set the prefix:


meson configure --prefix=$PREFIX

Which resulted in this error:

Meson configurator encountered an error:

ERROR: Directory /hdd/data1/code-build/gimp299/build/json-glib/build 
does not seem to be a Meson build directory.



For some options you may need cmake-style -Dfoo=bar.

I have found it necessary to export LC_ALL with a UTF-8 value, e.g.
en_GB.UTF-8, if invoking meson from a script running under the C or
POSIX locales.



I don't know what you are talking about. I have my locale information 
set to UTF-8. I don't know what "script running under the C or POSIX 
locales" actually means - can you explain?



And ninja will use all your cores, although for json-glib that is
probably immaterial.

So, use meson to create the Makefile(s), ninja to build, ninja
install.  For a DESTDIR-style install to check what is going to be
installed:
  DESTDIR=/tmp/JG ninja install
(i.e. put the DESTDIR first)


Please, having cd'ed to the "build" folder inside the json-glib folder, 
what's the next thing to type?


Personally I don't care if I never build json-glib from source as the 
Gentoo version is plenty recent enough for building GIMP from git. But 
I'm trying to update my website article for people who *do* need to 
build json-glib from source.



In BLFS we target linuxfromscratch which includes meson and ninja,
so those are not listed as dependencies, and the build time uses
LFS's "standard build units" (SBU) - for json-glib the time should
only be a few seconds on any modern machine.  Other deps are
whatever any 'Required' or 'Recommended' packages specify - but
since you probably already have glib and gobject-introspection I
guess you have everything necessary.

Also, in BLFS we only use lib, not lib64, I'm not sure if that will
affect meson.  Old docs from fedora suggest --libdir, but I don't


Gentoo uses "lib". OpenSUSE uses "lib64" or at least used to. Probably I 
should check to see what's currently being used on OpenSUSE. But right 
now I'm sitting at my Gentoo machine trying to do a test install of 
json-glib.



immediately see that in their latest build, so I suggest you try
without, and if it builds do a DESTDIR install to see if the files
are where you expect them to be.

For building with meson the important files are meson.build and
meson_options.txt.

 From the first, for json-glib-1.4.2 meson needs to be >= 0.40.1,
glib >= 2.44.0, and from the second, introspection defaults to true
but can be set to false if you don't have gobject-introspection, and


On Gentoo I have dev-util/meson-0.46.1 and dev-util/ninja-1.8.2 
installed from portage. And I have at least glib > 2.44 installed 

Re: [Gimp-developer] how to build json-glib in a prefix when building gimp from git in a prefix?

2018-09-29 Thread Ken Moffat via gimp-developer-list
On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 03:23:24PM -0400, Elle Stone wrote:
> Anyone know the precise terminal commands for building json-glib in a prefix
> using meson? I'm trying to update this article:
> 
> https://ninedegreesbelow.com/photography/build-gimp-in-prefix-for-artists.html
> 
> I already established the prefix using these commands:
> 
> 
> PREFIX=$HOME/code/gimpdefault/install
> export PATH=$PREFIX/bin:$PATH
> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$PREFIX/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
> export XDG_DATA_DIRS=$PREFIX/share:$XDG_DATA_DIRS
> export ACLOCAL_FLAGS="-I $PREFIX/share/aclocal"
> export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$PREFIX/lib/pkgconfig:$PKG_CONFIG_PATH
> export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$PREFIX/share/pkgconfig:$PKG_CONFIG_PATH
> export GIO_EXTRA_MODULES=/usr/lib64/gio/modules
> export SRC_DIR=$HOME/code/gimpdefault/build
> 
> I'm building on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed. Probably I need to install meson
> something or other, so does anyone know what package(s) to install? And then
> of course what commands to type.
> 
> Best,
> 
> and thanks in advance for any help!
> 
> Elle
> 
Hi Elle,

I don't know how OpenSUSE splits packages into sub-packages (-dev or
something for headers), but the upstream packages you will need are
meson, ninja, and python3.

For building meson in /usr, see
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/general/json-glib.html

Note that is still on 1.4.2 which is probably older than what you
are going to build.

I don't think the _process_ of using meson has changed recently:
create a build directory, change to it, invoke meson with whatever
switches you need (a minimum of --prefix=) followed by .. to point
to where the meson files are.

For some options you may need cmake-style -Dfoo=bar.

I have found it necessary to export LC_ALL with a UTF-8 value, e.g.
en_GB.UTF-8, if invoking meson from a script running under the C or
POSIX locales.

And ninja will use all your cores, although for json-glib that is
probably immaterial.

So, use meson to create the Makefile(s), ninja to build, ninja
install.  For a DESTDIR-style install to check what is going to be
installed:
 DESTDIR=/tmp/JG ninja install
(i.e. put the DESTDIR first)

In BLFS we target linuxfromscratch which includes meson and ninja,
so those are not listed as dependencies, and the build time uses
LFS's "standard build units" (SBU) - for json-glib the time should
only be a few seconds on any modern machine.  Other deps are
whatever any 'Required' or 'Recommended' packages specify - but
since you probably already have glib and gobject-introspection I
guess you have everything necessary.

Also, in BLFS we only use lib, not lib64, I'm not sure if that will
affect meson.  Old docs from fedora suggest --libdir, but I don't
immediately see that in their latest build, so I suggest you try
without, and if it builds do a DESTDIR install to see if the files
are where you expect them to be.

For building with meson the important files are meson.build and
meson_options.txt.

From the first, for json-glib-1.4.2 meson needs to be >= 0.40.1,
glib >= 2.44.0, and from the second, introspection defaults to true
but can be set to false if you don't have gobject-introspection, and
the docs are not built by default (needs gtk-doc and xsltproc).  But
check the required version of meson in the version of json-glib you
are going to build.

HTH

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