Re: [Gimp-developer] Hard edged Ink tool?

2006-08-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sat, 2006-08-26 at 02:28 +0930, David Gowers wrote: Ah, the #define SUBSAMPLE 8 line. Changing it to 1 does indeed do what I wanted. Actually, I take that back. Well, of course changing the define is not what you want because then you can't get the old behaviour

Re: [Gimp-developer] Hard edged Ink tool?

2006-08-29 Thread David Gowers
On 8/29/06, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gegl doesn't support images with indexed colors and I very much doubtthat it ever will support it. It is rather likely that indexed mode willbe completely handled by load and save plug-ins in a gegl-based GIMP. If there's a need for editing indexed

Re: [Gimp-developer] Hard edged Ink tool?

2006-08-29 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gegl doesn't support images with indexed colors and I very much doubt that it ever will support it. It is rather likely that indexed mode will be completely handled by load and save plug-ins in a gegl-based GIMP. If there's a need for editing indexed

[Gimp-developer] http://layers.gimp.org/ is Ugly

2006-08-29 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi all! I'm afraid to say that http://layers.gimp.org/ is incredibly ugly, and makes us look very bad. As people who develop an image editing software we should have at least a bit of rudimentary aesthetic sense. Carol told me she tried to make it look like the Layers dialog. Well, that's not

[Gimp-developer] Re: [Gimp-web] http://layers.gimp.org/ is Ugly

2006-08-29 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Tuesday 29 August 2006 13:07, Carol Spears wrote: On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 12:30:59PM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: Please fix all that. do you want me to remove your feed from that planet instance? Carol, I already told you on the IRC that I don't want such a thing. I don't want the GIMP

Re: [Gimp-developer] http://layers.gimp.org/ is Ugly

2006-08-29 Thread Shlomi Fish
CCed to the list because I hate it when people email me annoying emails in private, and expect private responses. (see: http://www.mail-archive.com/iglu-web%40iglu.org.il/msg01595.html ) On Tuesday 29 August 2006 13:14, Carol Spears wrote: hello, when i put together the people for the gtk+

[Gimp-developer] Re: [Gimp-web] http://layers.gimp.org/ is Ugly

2006-08-29 Thread Roman Joost
Hi folks, On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 12:30:59PM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: I'm afraid to say that http://layers.gimp.org/ is incredibly ugly, and makes us look very bad. As people who develop an image editing software we should have at least a bit of rudimentary aesthetic sense. Carol told me

Re: [Gimp-developer] Hard edged Ink tool?

2006-08-29 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On 8/29/06, Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scripsit Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gegl doesn't support images with indexed colors and I very much doubt that it ever will support it. It is rather likely that indexed mode will be completely handled by load and save plug-ins in a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Hard edged Ink tool?

2006-08-29 Thread David Gowers
On 8/29/06, Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cannot use the smudge or blur|sharpen tool, gaussian blur doesn't work neither does unsharp mask, layer masks seems to work but get their alpha thresholded.Neither of which are something one usually needs in a situation where one wants to

Re: [Gimp-developer] Hard edged Ink tool?

2006-08-29 Thread Simon Budig
Henning Makholm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Scripsit Øyvind Kolås [EMAIL PROTECTED] I cannot use the smudge or blur|sharpen tool, gaussian blur doesn't work neither does unsharp mask, layer masks seems to work but get their alpha thresholded. Neither of which are something one usually

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: [Gimp-web] http://layers.gimp.org/ is Ugly

2006-08-29 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Tuesday 29 August 2006 14:34, Roman Joost wrote: Hi folks, On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 12:30:59PM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: I'm afraid to say that http://layers.gimp.org/ is incredibly ugly, and makes us look very bad. As people who develop an image editing software we should have at least

Re: [Gimp-developer] Hard edged Ink tool?

2006-08-29 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On 8/29/06, Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Henning Makholm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Scripsit Øyvind Kolås [EMAIL PROTECTED] I cannot use the smudge or blur|sharpen tool, gaussian blur doesn't work neither does unsharp mask, layer masks seems to work but get their alpha

Re: [Gimp-developer] Hard edged Ink tool?

2006-08-29 Thread David Gowers
On 8/29/06, Øyvind Kolås [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am pretty positive that these problems could be sorted out when we know what people working with palette-based images want to have. I am just guessing on the needs here...Having an implied conversion to RGB on input of indexed drawables is the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Hard edged Ink tool?

2006-08-29 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Henning Makholm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I don't really care whether it is duplicated in GEGL or outside it, as long as the net effect of don't let my editing result in pixel colors outside this small predeterined palette is still attainable with the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Hard edged Ink tool?

2006-08-29 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On 8/29/06, Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scripsit Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Henning Makholm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Now, when I edit in indexed mode I am sure that I don't accidentally give a pixel a color that is off the expected one by a delta that is too small for me to

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: [Gimp-web] http://layers.gimp.org/ is Ugly

2006-08-29 Thread Marco Wessel
On Aug 29, 2006, at 3:58 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote: Well, we can use any of the following designs, which are much better: * http://www.planetapache.org/ * http://advogato.ev-en.org/ * http://planet.gnome.org/ * http://planetsun.org/ I recall seeing even better looking planets in my

Re: [Gimp-developer] Hard edged Ink tool?

2006-08-29 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Øyvind Kolås Within the current gimp architecture you are asking for the job that op would be performing to be done in a display filter, with a fixed pallete (whilst working in RGB mode). This would cause all work being done on the image to be displayed with the reduced palette. Thus

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: [Gimp-web] http://layers.gimp.org/ is Ugly

2006-08-29 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 8/29/06, Shlomi Fish wrote: Well, we can use any of the following designs, which are much better: * http://www.planetapache.org/ * http://advogato.ev-en.org/ * http://planet.gnome.org/ * http://planetsun.org/ I recall seeing even better looking planets in my neverending web surfing.

Re: [Gimp-developer] http://layers.gimp.org/ is Ugly

2006-08-29 Thread Michael Schumacher
Von: Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tuesday 29 August 2006 13:14, Carol Spears wrote: when i put together the people for the gtk+ planet, i limited it to only those who had contributed for the current version cycle. I disagree with this strategy. First of all, because it may imply

Re: [Gimp-developer] Hard edged Ink tool?

2006-08-29 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On 8/29/06, Henning Makholm My concrete need is that I edit bitmaps with a specific color convention - they can be seen e.g. at http://dk.trackmap.net/a. I use a system of ad-hoc software to convert the bitmap source to the vector versions linked to below the image; this software depends on the

[Gimp-developer] Re: [Gimp-web] http://layers.gimp.org/ is Ugly

2006-08-29 Thread William Skaggs
From: Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm afraid to say that http://layers.gimp.org/ is incredibly ugly, and makes us look very bad. As people who develop an image editing software we should have at least a bit of rudimentary aesthetic sense. If this were a bug report, the first thing we would

Re: [Gimp-developer] Hard edged Ink tool?

2006-08-29 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Øyvind Kolås [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 8/29/06, Henning Makholm My concrete need is that I edit bitmaps with a specific color convention - they can be seen e.g. at http://dk.trackmap.net/a. I use a system of ad-hoc software to convert the bitmap source to the vector versions linked to

Re: [Gimp-developer] Hard edged Ink tool?

2006-08-29 Thread David Gowers
On 8/30/06, Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scripsit Øyvind Kolås [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 8/29/06, Henning Makholm My concrete need is that I edit bitmaps with a specific color convention - they can be seen e.g. at http://dk.trackmap.net/a.I use a system of ad-hoc software to convert the