Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Alexia Death
On Wednesday 22 July 2009 00:37:43 Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 18:33 -0300, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote: I d'be against the removal of the vintage pixmaped brushes. Why? Tell us a good reason then why we should keep them. Ive done a few quite nice wallpapers with just dynamics

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/20/2009 06:43 AM, Laxminarayan Kamath wrote: On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:06 AM, Martin Nordholtsense...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, With the integration of tagging support in GIMP we have a mechanism that allows us to organize resources (brushes, patterns, palettes, and gradients). This

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Steren
Indeed, they are good examples. For me, the thing is : why these examples ? To give examples doesn't mean not to justify them. A justification could be the need of the users, if after a study it appears that the color Brush the most relevant to provide by default is a Pepper, I would understand.

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/20/2009 10:29 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:36 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote: * Add larger variants of the circle and fuzzy circle brushes, say 50, 100, 250 and 500 px The prerequisite for this is GIMP not playing a dying turtle that climbs up to

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2 part - Scripts to be included in the core, and keybindings?

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/20/2009 06:14 PM, Rob Antonishen wrote: Couple quick questions... How is it decided what scripts should be included in the core? If they help us fulfill the product vision [1], they should be added. For example, I have created a new script with a number of menu entries to grow

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Alexia Death
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.comwrote: On 07/20/2009 10:29 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:36 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote: * Add larger variants of the circle and fuzzy circle brushes, say 50, 100, 250 and 500 px The

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/20/2009 11:10 AM, Alexia Death wrote: * Add larger variants of the circle and fuzzy circle Please no, there's too many round brushes already and bigger ones would look exactly the same and add confusion. There should not be 2 brushes that look to be the same shape in the default set.

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/20/2009 03:28 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:36 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote: Hi, With the integration of tagging support in GIMP we have a mechanism that allows us to organize resources (brushes, patterns, palettes, and gradients). This enables us to add a

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/20/2009 06:19 PM, Emil Assarsson wrote: What I really miss is to be able to remove brushes that I don't need and sort/group the ones I use a lot. Maybe it would be better that most - if not all - of the brushes where copied to the users profile as a default instead of being static. I

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread SHIRAKAWA Akira
Martin Nordholts wrote: I get your drift, but is it really reasonable to force a user to scale a say 250px brush to 3px if that is what he desires? It might be, but I don't think it is with our current scaling mechanism. What do you think Regarding this, as an user (and not a programmer),

Re: [Gimp-developer] Request for usage of GIMP logo graphic

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/22/2009 06:39 AM, Jonathan Wolf wrote: Hello, I am interested in using the GIMP logo graphic in a commercial product under a special thanks page in the credits. Who would I need to get in contact with to ask for permission for usage? You would either have to comply with the license the

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/22/2009 06:50 AM, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote: Now, my tagging proposal would just keep then available for people and scritps alike, while making then 100% non-obtrusive, - I don' t understand why you haven't commented on that. I think your suggestion to use tags to mark resources as

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Jon Senior
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:03:31 +0200 Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com wrote: I get your drift, but is it really reasonable to force a user to scale a say 250px brush to 3px if that is what he desires? It might be, but I don't think it is with our current scaling mechanism. What do you think

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/22/2009 12:18 PM, SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote: Martin Nordholts wrote: I get your drift, but is it really reasonable to force a user to scale a say 250px brush to 3px if that is what he desires? It might be, but I don't think it is with our current scaling mechanism. What do you think

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Sven Neumann wrote: Easy enough, just unset the 'global-brush' property. I am not sure though if that would make a good default for the average user. So far I only heard from users thanks, but why is it not by default? :) Alexandre

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Fredrik Alströmer
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 14:12, Alexandre Prokoudinealexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Sven Neumann wrote: Easy enough, just unset the 'global-brush' property. I am not sure though if that would make a good default for the average user. So far I only heard

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
2009/7/22 Fredrik Alströmer wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 14:12, Alexandre Prokoudinealexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Sven Neumann wrote: Easy enough, just unset the 'global-brush' property. I am not sure though if that would make a good default for

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread David Gowers
2009/7/22 Fredrik Alströmer r...@excu.se On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 14:12, Alexandre Prokoudinealexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Sven Neumann wrote: Easy enough, just unset the 'global-brush' property. I am not sure though if that would make a good

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/20/2009 12:36 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote: Does anyone have any suggestions on adjustments and additions to the default set of GIMP resources? Thanks for the great feedback everyone. Summing it up, these are the current desired adjustments to the default set of resources. We should: *

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
2009/7/22 David Gowers wrote: tools. When I think about it, I wonder whether such users ever get to using GIMP with any level of frequency or intensity, as IMO with the global-brush option off Don't wonder -- they do. And I do too :) (Speaking of which, the fact that tools presets don't

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Cracauer
Martin Nordholts wrote on Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 03:05:38PM +0200: On 07/20/2009 12:36 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote: Does anyone have any suggestions on adjustments and additions to the default set of GIMP resources? Thanks for the great feedback everyone. Summing it up, these are the

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/22/2009 03:28 PM, Martin Cracauer wrote: Speaking of brushes - brush rotation which currently requires a plugin (which is a little painful to use as it isn't interactive) is high on my wishlist. Brush rotation is implemented in git master and will be part of GIMP 2.7.0. / Martin

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread GSR - FR
Hi, shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com (2009-07-22 at 1218.30 +0200): Martin Nordholts wrote: I get your drift, but is it really reasonable to force a user to scale a say 250px brush to 3px if that is what he desires? It might be, but I don't think it is with our current scaling mechanism. What

[Gimp-developer] How far away from watching other colorspaces in real time?

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Cracauer
Hi. Can somebody tell me how far away GIMP is from being able to view manipulations that you do in a different color space in real time in real colors? I could get along with constant recomposing to view with HSV. But I have recently discovered the LAB colorspace which does really useful things

Re: [Gimp-developer] How far away from watching other colorspaces in real time?

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/22/2009 11:59 PM, Martin Cracauer wrote: Hi. Can somebody tell me how far away GIMP is from being able to view manipulations that you do in a different color space in real time in real colors? Hi, The current plan is get GIMP 2.8 out the door asap, hopefully within the next few

Re: [Gimp-developer] How far away from watching other colorspaces in real time?

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Cracauer
Martin Nordholts wrote on Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:16:34AM +0200: On 07/22/2009 11:59 PM, Martin Cracauer wrote: Hi. Can somebody tell me how far away GIMP is from being able to view manipulations that you do in a different color space in real time in real colors? Hi, The current plan

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 23:54 +0200, GSR - FR wrote: I avoid scale whenever I can, so for vector brushes I just use the brush editor. Scaling a vector brush from the tool options is equivalent, at least from an implementation point of view, to changing its size in the brush editor. Sven

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 18:53 -0400, Rob Antonishen wrote: One reason to keep some image hose brushes in the default set is just to demonstrate that gimp supports them! I participate in a web forum for amateur cartography, and one of the most common requests is how to use tubes with

Re: [Gimp-developer] How far away from watching other colorspaces in real time?

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/23/2009 12:27 AM, Martin Cracauer wrote: Do I understand that correctly that you will move to single-floats/color? Yes, virtually all image processing and compositing will be performed in the linear light RGBA color space with 32 bit float depth per channel. There have been discussions

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 12:10 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote: On 07/20/2009 06:19 PM, Emil Assarsson wrote: What I really miss is to be able to remove brushes that I don't need and sort/group the ones I use a lot. Maybe it would be better that most - if not all - of the brushes where

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread GSR - FR
Hi, s...@gimp.org (2009-07-23 at 0031.55 +0200): On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 23:54 +0200, GSR - FR wrote: I avoid scale whenever I can, so for vector brushes I just use the brush editor. Scaling a vector brush from the tool options is equivalent, at least from an implementation point of view, to

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/23/2009 12:39 AM, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 12:10 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote: On 07/20/2009 06:19 PM, Emil Assarsson wrote: What I really miss is to be able to remove brushes that I don't need and sort/group the ones I use a lot. Maybe it would be better that

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 00:51 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote: We could either introduce a complex system to allow the user to delete system resources, or we could make it simple for ourselves and the user and just initialize the user dir with a set of default resources. I don't

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 00:48 +0200, GSR - FR wrote: The points are the separate GUI, the mental maths required or the try and error workflow until you find the right size for brush changes, which are the issues the user has to cope with; versus a(n unified) pixel size control (currently

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/23/2009 12:56 AM, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 00:51 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote: We could either introduce a complex system to allow the user to delete system resources, or we could make it simple for ourselves and the user and just initialize the user dir with a

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-22 Thread David Gowers
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/22 David Gowers wrote: tools. When I think about it, I wonder whether such users ever get to using GIMP with any level of frequency or intensity, as IMO with the global-brush option off

Re: [Gimp-developer] How far away from watching other colorspaces in real time?

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Cracauer
Martin Nordholts wrote on Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:40:06AM +0200: On 07/23/2009 12:27 AM, Martin Cracauer wrote: Do I understand that correctly that you will move to single-floats/color? [...] If you in the yet not officially released GIMP 2.7 do View - Use GEGL, then the layers will be

[Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resource ?

2009-07-22 Thread Alchemie foto\grafiche
1) i agree with Alexia , get rid of all duplicates as  the circle soft and circle hard brush.   If may be scaled only 1 is needed 2) most flexible brushes are that created with the brush editor that can be not only resized but tilted, rotated,made harder or softer on the fly, even with

Re: [Gimp-developer] How far away from watching other colorspaces in real time?

2009-07-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/23/2009 04:11 AM, Martin Cracauer wrote: I use the git version of last week. Lost my tablet (probably due to some dbus API issue) but works otherwise. Let me just poke some more. And does all this survive layer copying and other changes? Does current 2.7 carry floating point layers

Re: [Gimp-developer] How far away from watching other colorspaces in real time?

2009-07-22 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Martin Cracauer craca...@cons.org wrote: Martin Nordholts wrote on Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:40:06AM +0200: On 07/23/2009 12:27 AM, Martin Cracauer wrote: Do I understand that correctly that you will move to single-floats/color? [...] If you in the