Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP T-shirts in our online store

2009-10-25 Thread Ismael Barros²
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Alexia Death alexiade...@gmail.com wrote: A - no mouth and a bad squint... Bleh. B - still a bad squint. naah C - best option D - also good but a bit too much contrast with the bg Nice, I'll let our artist know, thanks I might actually buy one, when they are

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP T-shirts in our online store

2009-10-25 Thread gg
Emil Assarsson wrote: I have to say that I like B best. The ears are not that pointy and the lines are smoother. The mouth is good but the shape could be a little bit more rhythmic with the other lines. Maybe to wide? I like the wackiness of the uneven sized eyes that gives the impression of

[Gimp-developer] Progressive escalation of help

2009-10-25 Thread photocomix
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: IMO the real solution is to shop documentation with GIMP. Ship, that is :) Alexandre YES !! And anyway label the gimp help as additional packadge is pure nonsense: for complex graphic software as Gimp the help is not something

Re: [Gimp-developer] Progressive escalation of help

2009-10-25 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 10/25/2009 04:13 PM, photocomix wrote: On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: IMO the real solution is to shop documentation with GIMP. Ship, that is :) Alexandre YES !! I agree, distributing documentation separately for a program like GIMP never made much sense

Re: [Gimp-developer] Progressive escalation of help

2009-10-25 Thread Sven Neumann
On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 16:19 +0100, Martin Nordholts wrote: On 10/25/2009 04:13 PM, photocomix wrote: On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: IMO the real solution is to shop documentation with GIMP. Ship, that is :) Alexandre YES !! I agree, distributing

Re: [Gimp-developer] Force gimp reload plugins?

2009-10-25 Thread Sven Neumann
On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 14:06 +1100, David Hodson wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 03:53 +0100, Louise Hoffman wrote: Is there a quick way to test (my) plugin when I just have compiled it? Once Gimp has been started with the plugin present, you can just replace the executable (make install) and

Re: [Gimp-developer] Progressive escalation of help

2009-10-25 Thread Michael Schumacher
Sven Neumann wrote: IMO you are making a problem here that does not any longer exist. Not having a release of the user manual for 2.6 was indeed a problem, but that has finally been solved recently. Instead of complaining we should thank the GIMP documentation team for their hard work. And we

Re: [Gimp-developer] Progressive escalation of help

2009-10-25 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 10/25/2009 05:26 PM, Sven Neumann wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 16:19 +0100, Martin Nordholts wrote: On 10/25/2009 04:13 PM, photocomix wrote: On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: IMO the real solution is to shop documentation with GIMP. Ship, that is :)

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP T-shirts in our online store

2009-10-25 Thread Guillermo Espertino
Ismael: I don't know the official position about this, but I think that the Wilber image you used looks pretty dated. I'd use the Tango version or the icon for Mac that Jimmac designed. They look much better and as far as I could see, the Tango version is being used for GIMP since 2.4

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP T-shirts in our online store

2009-10-25 Thread Omari Stephens
Guillermo Espertino wrote: Ismael: I don't know the official position about this, but I think that the Wilber image you used looks pretty dated. I'd use the Tango version or the icon for Mac that Jimmac designed. They look much better and as far as I could see, the Tango version is being

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP T-shirts in our online store

2009-10-25 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Omari Stephens x...@csail.mit.edu wrote: Guillermo Espertino wrote: Ismael: I don't know the official position about this, but I think that the Wilber image you used looks pretty dated. I'd use the Tango version or the icon for Mac that Jimmac designed. They

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP T-shirts in our online store

2009-10-25 Thread Sven Neumann
On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 13:04 -0500, Chris Mohler wrote: I do t-shirts with gradient/blending all of the time - it's not any more expensive, but it can be trickier to set up and print. The main thing I see w/those PNGs is that they are too low-res for a full-front print:

Re: [Gimp-developer] Progressive escalation of help

2009-10-25 Thread Sven Neumann
Ni, On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 17:46 +0100, Martin Nordholts wrote: Keeping the documentation online is in many ways a good idea. There is one thing we could do better though. Right now when pressing F1 without a locally installed copy of the manual there is a dialog box that says you don't have

Re: [Gimp-developer] Progressive escalation of help

2009-10-25 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 10/25/2009 08:13 PM, Sven Neumann wrote: We only show this dialog once. If you confirm that you want to use the online version, then you won't see that dialog again. I don't think that's too bad. The dialog makes it clear what's happening and it serves as a hint that the manual can also be

Re: [Gimp-developer] Progressive escalation of help

2009-10-25 Thread Alexia Death
On Sunday 25 October 2009 21:21:45 Martin Nordholts wrote: If the user presses F1 he is interested in getting help, not being informed that the information he will be reading is not locally installed. True. The possibility to install the manual locally becomes interesting if there is no

Re: [Gimp-developer] Progressive escalation of help

2009-10-25 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 10/25/09, Martin Nordholts wrote: My reply was a bit hasty and I apologize. Thanks to the documentation team and Jernej for their hard work. I don't think your reply was hasty :) Having documentation available at once is actually expected. Provided the documentation project is a separate

Re: [Gimp-developer] Force gimp reload plugins?

2009-10-25 Thread Louise Hoffman
[snip] Dear David and Sven Thanks so much. That will speed up the development a lot =) Hugs, Louise ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer

Re: [Gimp-developer] Progressive escalation of help

2009-10-25 Thread Ilya Zakharevich
On 2009-10-25, Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com wrote: Keeping the documentation online is in many ways a good idea. A bad idea for people who are most of the time on the road without online access... There is one thing we could do better though. Right now when pressing F1 without a locally

Re: [Gimp-developer] Progressive escalation of help

2009-10-25 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 10/25/2009 11:35 PM, Ilya Zakharevich wrote: If you think the dialogue is nagging, it is better to make a checkbox do not show this again, show online help directly. AND, maybe, never show the same dialogue in the same session. It won't nag me less just because I can dismiss it for the

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP T-shirts in our online store

2009-10-25 Thread Guillermo Espertino
I do t-shirts with gradient/blending all of the time - it's not any more expensive, but it can be trickier to set up and print. The main thing I see w/those PNGs is that they are too low-res for a full-front print Ehhhrm... I was talking about the re-drawn Wilber designs, not the gradients

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP T-shirts in our online store

2009-10-25 Thread Ismael Barros²
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 12:35 PM, g...@catking.net wrote: Emil Assarsson wrote: I have to say that I like B best. The ears are not that pointy and the lines are smoother. The mouth is good but the shape could be a little bit more rhythmic with the other lines. Maybe to wide? I like the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Would single-window fix usability nightmares?

2009-10-25 Thread Graeme Gill
g...@catking.net wrote: Some of your comments are valid but your basic premise is wrong. There is nothing for sale, so the is NO VENDOR. Of course there is a vendor. To Vend in the context I use it means to offer for public consideration. Whether that is for a price is detail. Use another

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP T-shirts in our online store

2009-10-25 Thread Ismael Barros²
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Chris Mohler cr33...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Omari Stephens x...@csail.mit.edu wrote: Guillermo Espertino wrote: Ismael: I don't know the official position about this, but I think that the Wilber image you used looks pretty dated.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Icons for layer modes

2009-10-25 Thread Ilya Zakharevich
On 2009-10-24, Ilya Zakharevich nospam-ab...@ilyaz.org wrote: So what about the following icon: take some background color in good contrast with all gray20, gray128, and gray245. On this background, plot the graph of F(20,L) in gray20, etc. One gets an icon with 3 graphs. Forgot to explain

[Gimp-developer] Chicken and egg with docs

2009-10-25 Thread Ilya Zakharevich
GIMP docs are most of the time out-of-sync. Possible workaround: Currently, a changelog entry looks like this: = commit 16643800a1ff14378bbba981793c6d6085fda607 Author: Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org Date: Tue Aug 4 23:20:49 2009 +0200 Change the default for the 'trust-dirty-flag' gimprc

Re: [Gimp-developer] Progressive escalation of help

2009-10-25 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 22:30 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: [...] Provided the documentation project is a separate one indeed, I see two solutions: 1. Make it downloadable during installation, like Michael suggests. 2. Leave .exe files where they are now, but keep amount of clicks to