Re: [Gimp-developer] IMPORTANT: GIMP AND OPENSOURCE SCAM ON EBAY!

2010-09-23 Thread gg
On 09/23/10 06:53, Konstantin Svist wrote: On 09/22/2010 09:05 PM, Abir Sadik wrote: This is some really serious violation going on, and i hope someone will do something about it. Some people who really dont know much about opensource are actually buying from that seller, check his

Re: [Gimp-developer] IMPORTANT: GIMP AND OPENSOURCE SCAM ON EBAY!

2010-09-23 Thread Kurt Pruenner
On 23.09.10 09:56, g...@catking.net wrote: On 09/23/10 06:53, Konstantin Svist wrote: Wrong. Selling most open source software is perfectly legal, according to the licenses @ Konstantin WRONG: selling the software is not allowed as you would see from the licence snip that you posted. A

Re: [Gimp-developer] IMPORTANT: GIMP AND OPENSOURCE SCAM ON EBAY!

2010-09-23 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 9/23/10, Abir Sadik wrote: This is some really serious violation going on, and i hope someone will do something about it. In my experience there is nothing you can do about that, educating that kind of repackagers is just wasting your time. We in Audacity project tried dealing with this,

Re: [Gimp-developer] IMPORTANT: GIMP AND OPENSOURCE SCAM ON EBAY!

2010-09-23 Thread gg
On 09/23/10 11:27, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On 9/23/10, Abir Sadik wrote: This is some really serious violation going on, and i hope someone will do something about it. In my experience there is nothing you can do about that, educating that kind of repackagers is just wasting your time.

Re: [Gimp-developer] IMPORTANT: GIMP AND OPENSOURCE SCAM ON EBAY!

2010-09-23 Thread Robert Krawitz
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:56:45 +0200, g...@catking.net wrote: On 09/23/10 06:53, Konstantin Svist wrote: On 09/22/2010 09:05 PM, Abir Sadik wrote: This is some really serious violation going on, and i hope someone will do something about it. Some people who really dont know much about

Re: [Gimp-developer] IMPORTANT: GIMP AND OPENSOURCE SCAM ON EBAY!

2010-09-23 Thread Nicolas Robidoux
Opinion: Don't waste your time and energy on the actions of dishonest internet people. There is a point to educating/warning/suing corporations (after all, some level of accountability/legal responsibility is part of their charter). Not internet ghosts. Nicolas Robidoux

Re: [Gimp-developer] IMPORTANT: GIMP AND OPENSOURCE SCAM ON EBAY!

2010-09-23 Thread Tor Lillqvist
As long as it seems clear that none of the actually affected parties (i.e. the people who hold the copyright to parts of GIMP and other (L)GPL-licensed bits bundled by the scammers) care about the alleged problem or would consider doing anything, this discussion is mostly pointless. --tml

Re: [Gimp-developer] IMPORTANT: GIMP AND OPENSOURCE SCAM ON EBAY!

2010-09-23 Thread Kevin Cozens
On 09/22/2010 09:05 PM, Abir Sadik wrote: This is some really serious violation going on, and i hope someone will do something about it. Some people who really dont know much about opensource are actually buying from that seller, check his feedback. People like this pop up on the net

Re: [Gimp-developer] IMPORTANT: GIMP AND OPENSOURCE SCAM ON EBAY!

2010-09-23 Thread gg
On 09/23/10 15:16, Tor Lillqvist wrote: As long as it seems clear that none of the actually affected parties (i.e. the people who hold the copyright to parts of GIMP and other (L)GPL-licensed bits bundled by the scammers) care about the alleged problem or would consider doing anything, this

Re: [Gimp-developer] IMPORTANT: GIMP AND OPENSOURCE SCAM ON EBAY!

2010-09-23 Thread Bernhard Guillon
On 23.09.2010 06:05, Abir Sadik wrote: Heyy.. I was looking for something on ebay and this is what i stumbled upon: some seller or sellers are selling GIMP and many other open source applications (vlc, pidgin) pretending as a distributor of the softwares. check this seller

Re: [Gimp-developer] IMPORTANT: GIMP AND OPENSOURCE SCAM ON EBAY!

2010-09-23 Thread oliver
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 01:27:41PM +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On 9/23/10, Abir Sadik wrote: This is some really serious violation going on, and i hope someone will do something about it. In my experience there is nothing you can do about that, educating that kind of repackagers

Re: [Gimp-developer] IMPORTANT: GIMP AND OPENSOURCE SCAM ON EBAY!

2010-09-23 Thread Chris Moller
eBay has been notified of both the possible license infringement and also of what they call fee avoidance--charging almost nothing for the product, a percentage of which goes to eBay, and making their money on their exorbitant shipping charges, on which eBay makes nothing. Between these two

Re: [Gimp-developer] IMPORTANT: GIMP AND OPENSOURCE SCAM ON EBAY!

2010-09-23 Thread Jay Smith
On 09/23/2010 02:00 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: That basically boils down to Why is there no GIMP Foundation? In my sick and screwed imagination the answer would be Because there is nobody willing to do all the bloody boring daily work required to ensure prosperity of such an organization.

Re: [Gimp-developer] IMPORTANT: GIMP AND OPENSOURCE SCAM ON EBAY!

2010-09-23 Thread gg
On 09/23/10 18:57, Chris Moller wrote: eBay has been notified of both the possible license infringement and also of what they call fee avoidance--charging almost nothing for the product, a percentage of which goes to eBay, and making their money on their exorbitant shipping charges, on which

Re: [Gimp-developer] IMPORTANT: GIMP AND OPENSOURCE SCAM ON EBAY!

2010-09-23 Thread Alexia Death
On 09/23/2010 02:00 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: That basically boils down to Why is there no GIMP Foundation? In my sick and screwed imagination the answer would be Because there is nobody willing to do all the bloody boring daily work required to ensure prosperity of such an

Re: [Gimp-developer] IMPORTANT: GIMP AND OPENSOURCE SCAM ON EBAY!

2010-09-23 Thread Tor Lillqvist
selling the software on ebay. In my country (germany) some people do not have access to broadband internet and like to buy a CD of the software. GIMP has been relatively often distributed on CDs that come with relevant magazines, also in Germany. Very recently even, I know because some of these

Re: [Gimp-developer] IMPORTANT: GIMP AND OPENSOURCE SCAM ON EBAY!

2010-09-23 Thread gg
On 09/23/10 22:07, Tor Lillqvist wrote: selling the software on ebay. In my country (germany) some people do not have access to broadband internet and like to buy a CD of the software. GIMP has been relatively often distributed on CDs that come with relevant magazines, also in Germany. Very

Re: [Gimp-developer] IMPORTANT: GIMP AND OPENSOURCE SCAM ON EBAY!

2010-09-23 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Whether you have/had the authority to grant that permission is another question. I should note that nowadays such requests coming to me are for PSPI, not GIMP itself, as I haven't built and distributed any GIMP binaries in a long time. When they used to ask for permission to redistribute GIMP,

Re: [Gimp-developer] IMPORTANT: GIMP AND OPENSOURCE SCAM ON EBAY!

2010-09-23 Thread yahvuu
On 23.09.2010 21:55, Alexia Death wrote: The only way I can imagine Rise of the Mighty Gimp Foundation happening is one of our lead developers and our cat herder(aka the Tie Wearing Office Manager) quiting their day jobs and becoming starting members of the foundation and its first full time

Re: [Gimp-developer] IMPORTANT: GIMP AND OPENSOURCE SCAM ON EBAY!

2010-09-23 Thread Jon Nordby
On 23 September 2010 21:55, Alexia Death alexiade...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Jay Smith j...@jaysmith.com wrote: I suspect that a paid Foundation position might annoy some developers who have been busting their tails for years, for free. Not really. We do it for fun