Re: [Gimp-developer] Trouble compiling Gimp 1.3.6

2002-05-29 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 30 May 2002, Sven Neumann wrote: yes, Nathan forgot to add gimp-mkproxy to EXTRA_DIST and its missing from the tarball for that reason. (sound of head hitting keyboard.) Doh! :) Rockwalrus ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Fwd: Bug#148412: gimp1.2: Gimp is not consistentlylicensed]

2002-05-30 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 30 May 2002, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: On Wed, 2002-05-29 at 10:36, Raphaël Quinet wrote: I'm not sure how the plugins are used by GIMP. gimp opens a pipe, spawns the child plugin process, and communicates using a relatively simple protocol. The FSF says

Re: [Gimp-developer] [Fwd: Bug#148412: gimp1.2: Gimp is not consistentlylicensed]

2002-05-31 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Fri, 31 May 2002, Raphaël Quinet wrote: ./plug-ins/common/gif.c (David Koblas) ./plug-ins/common/tiff.c(Patrick J. Naughton) We already knew about at least these and I was told (on #gimp I think) that it was not a problem. Whoever told you that was wrong. The text of

Re: [Gimp-developer] Using cout to write to a file --- help neededurgently

2002-06-07 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Sugandhi wrote: Hi, My project is to develop an artificial neural network to classify satellite images. And, this classifier is to be a plugin to gimp. But, to cout to a file on the disk --- I am not able to do this, unless I run gimp from the console. Any

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp security bug, shared memory

2002-06-12 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 12 Jun 2002, Michael Natterer wrote: David Fries [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, the plug-ins are simply forked and thus have the same uid. The patch looks like the right thing to do to me. If nobody objects for some reason, it will be applied to both the stable and unstable trees.

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp security bug, shared memory

2002-06-13 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Marc Espie wrote: On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 05:48:58PM +0200, Raphaël Quinet wrote: Also, I think that some old systems (AIX? HP-UX?) had problems with shared memory segments unless they were created with the mode 777. This is very vague and I cannot find any

Re: [Gimp-developer] Layer Sets

2002-06-13 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 13 Jun 2002, Erin Tomson wrote: Unless I'm mistaken, gimp doesn't have any support for layer sets or folders. Other programs, such as photoshop, allow you to group layers. The layers inside the group will first be merged. Then the result will then be merged with the remaining layers.

[Gimp-developer] Re: About The GIMP

2002-09-24 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
Here is my suggestion for a rewrite. Changes are marked and commentary explaining the change is written at the bottom. GIMP is an acronym for GNU Image Manipulation Program. It is a freely distributed piece of software that is useful [1] for graphics-related tasks [2] such as photo retouching,

Re: [Gimp-developer] script-fu-scheme: Full implementation of Scheme?

2002-10-30 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Martin Bernreuther wrote: At http://www.swiss.ai.mit.edu/projects/scheme/documentation/scheme.html there's a reference manual, but I didn't manage to get some functions... to work. How about e.g. the (do) statement or (floor -4.3) (round -4.3) at

Re: [Gimp-developer] script-fu-scheme: Full implementation of Scheme?

2002-10-30 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Kevin Myers wrote: However, not all of SIOD is implemented in the GIMP. Specifically, all of the stuff that requires a platform specific implementation is missing. These functions were marked with a U in the old Indiana doc. I don't know if that's true on the newer

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Dreamworks, Shrek, and the need for 16 Bit

2002-11-01 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote: I think it should be visual, a window with the image in 8 bit, and controls that decide how to get that 8 bit from the original 16 or 32. Basically black white points and a curve. I say visual, cos it could mean what one does in

Re: [Gimp-developer] The Occasional Bug List

2002-11-06 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, David Neary wrote: 78064 Entering large dimensions in Scale Image causes fatal error Memory issue - some things use lots of memory and crash the GIMP. Enhancement, marked critical - it's a matter of pre-calculating how big the new image will use, and warning

Re: [Gimp-developer] The Occasional Bug List

2002-11-06 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 7 Nov 2002, Lutz Müller wrote: On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 23:05, David Neary wrote: Looks kind of plaform-specific... how would you go about doing that for Solaris, SGI or Windows? Alternatively, if someone hacks up a plain-C-library called libmem or similar for figuring out free memory and

Re: [Gimp-developer] Random number seeding interface

2002-11-21 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, David Neary wrote: The real change would be to do away with the toggle, replace the toggle button with a normal button, and set a random seed in the spin-box when the button is pressed. For this, I've been using the global PRNG (g_random_int) rather than setting up what

[Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: libpdb suite version 0.1.0

2002-12-10 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
I'm proud to announce the first public release of the libpdb suite. The libpdb suite is an exciting new library designed to make it easy for application developers to add scripting and plug-in functionality available. It is based on GIMP's PDB implementation, but much work has been done to

Re: [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: libpdb suite version 0.1.0

2002-12-10 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 10 Dec 2002, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Nathan Carl Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is based on GIMP's PDB implementation, but much work has been done to improve the programming interface. I hope that you didn't follow the current GIMP implementation too close. It might have

Re: [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: libpdb suite version 0.1.0

2002-12-10 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 10 Dec 2002, Sven Neumann wrote: Nathan Carl Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hope that you didn't follow the current GIMP implementation too close. It might have proven to work but it certainly has major drawbacks and I wouldn't suggest it to application developers that think

Re: [Gimp-developer] List of changes for the future 1.2.4 release

2002-12-18 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 18 Dec 2002, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Raphaël Quinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd also like to see this one being addressed: Saving .xcf on full filesystem hangs GIMP http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101340 doesn't seem overly complicated since there's only one call to

[Gimp-developer] New Gimp FAQ: Call for questions

2002-12-18 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
The gimp web team has desired that the current FAQ's be updated to reflect the current 1.2.x reality for some time. Unfortunately, it has not been able to contact the FAQ maintainer, and the licence on the current FAQ's do not allow for modifications. If we are not able to contact Miles soon, we

[Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: libpdb suite 0.2.0

2002-12-19 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
Libpdb suite 0.2.0 has been released. This is mostly a code cleanup release. Changes include: * Renamed WireStandardProtocol WireStdProtocol. Hopefully this will save some typing. Similarly, WireStandardProtocolMessage is WireStdProtocolMsg. * The read and write functions in

[Gimp-developer] A Free Software project of interest.

2002-12-20 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
I saw this program and thought it might be interesting to GIMP users and developers. http://www.vips.ecs.soton.ac.uk/ Hopefully Gimp 2.0/GEGL/PUPUS will use some of the ideas there. Rockwalrus ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Gimp-developer] A more flexible last values system for the pdb

2002-12-23 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
Note: this message is crossposted to gimp-developer because several developers interested in libpdb are not subscribed to libpdb-developer. Please do not send followups to gimp-developer. I've been thinking about a better way to implement the RUN_WITH_LAST_VALUES functionality in libpdb. The

Re: [Gimp-developer] List of changes for the future 1.2.4 release

2002-12-20 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 20 Dec 2002, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Raphaël Quinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Note that just checking write() or fwrite() return values may not be enough: some filesystems delay the error indictation until close() is called on the fd. So this bug may well be influenced by the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Just managed to build HEAD GIMP with autotoolson Win32...

2003-01-02 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 31 Dec 2002, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Tor Lillqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm. You mean libgimptool isn't really used at all currently? It would be helpful to have some short READMEs in the libgimp* directories (especially libgimpwidgets, libgimpproxy and libgimptool) telling what

Re: [Gimp-developer] How to Submit Fixes and Enhancements?

2003-01-13 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Kevin Myers wrote: Hi folks, I have a few simple enhancements bug fixes that I would like to provide for the GIMP, and I'm working with it enough that I anticipate more to come. How is the best way for me to provide these changes? I've briefly checked into using CVS,

Re: [Gimp-developer] GimpToolGui

2003-01-30 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 30 Jan 2003, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi Nathan, when I updated my gimp tree this morning I was surprised to see this commit: 2003-01-30 Nathan Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] * app/tools/gimptoolgui.[ch]: GimpToolGui, a new class descended from GimpObject to be used to

[Gimp-developer] blizzards, mononucleosis, and tool plug-in TODOitems

2003-03-28 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
I'm sorry that I haven't been able to do much GIMP participation in the last several months. I don't want to bore everyone here with details of my personal life, so suffice it to say I haven't been able to spend much time hacking or even replying to email. I regret any inconvenience this has

Re: [Gimp-developer] blizzards, mononucleosis, and tool plug-in TODOitems

2003-03-30 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 30 Mar 2003, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Nathan Carl Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What needs to be done for the next release is a major cleanup of the tools. I agree. Part of this cleanup should be a proper documentation on how to write a GIMP tool. Providing source for a sample

Re: [Gimp-developer] Plug-in preview API proposal

2003-03-31 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 31 Mar 2003, Sven Neumann wrote: I'd even prefer to have everything that is related to this widget be under the same namespace. Unfortunately GimpPreview is already taken, so we either need to change the name of the core object or find a new one for the plug-in preview. (off-the-cuff)

Re: [Gimp-developer] Plug-in preview API proposal

2003-04-02 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Ernst Lippe wrote: On the contrary, there appear to be lots of acceptable names. I am suprised that nobody has suggested YetAnotherGimpPreview :) How about GimpPluginView? GimpSample? GimpTheWidgetFormerlyKnownAsPreview? GimpFancyPreview? GimpMcPreview? GimpExample?

[Gimp-developer] Tool API [LONG!]

2003-04-02 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
Here is a list of all the symbols currently used by the current tools, courtesy of nm tools/*.o paint/*.o | cut -b 10- | grep ^T | cut -b 3- | sort | uniq stdlib, glib, gdk, pango, and gtk calls have been eliminated from this list. The big things that stand out are accessing the global the_gimp,

Re: [Gimp-developer] running gimp withou't make install?

2003-06-02 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Sun, 1 Jun 2003, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote: But what I do need now is a faster way to go from edit code to running gimp. Make Install asctually eats out a lot of time on my system. Is it possible to run the gimp-1.3 binary generated from make straight, without make-installing it? Of course

Re: [Gimp-developer] New thread on GIMP 1.3+

2003-06-19 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
My vote is for 1.4. Otherwise, the Slashdot headline we will get is GIMP 2.0 Fails to Deliver Promised Features Rockwalrus ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer

Re: [Gimp-developer] Macro Recorder 2nd Try

2003-06-23 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Nathan Carl Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In short the approach (more info in bugzilla) : - Intercept every PDB call if a macro recorder instance is running. The cvs version of Libpdb already provides a flexible mechanism

Re: [Gimp-developer] MMX in 1.3 tree

2003-07-11 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 12:52:08AM +0200, David Neary wrote: I don't think there should be a % in the list of clobbered registers. What's worse, I don't even think most versions of gcc know about MMX registers at all (I might be mistaken,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: [CinePaint-dev] GIMP GBR format spec

2003-07-11 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Leonard Rosenthol wrote: But the fact is that you're going to end up having to Base64 encode all the image data - which will blow the physical file size WAY out of proportion. And if don't do that (ie. attempt to leave in binary data), then you are violating the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Macro Recorder 2nd Try

2003-06-23 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Hans Breuer wrote: I'm about to give it another try with current cvs code base, but before I would like to get some information to avoid (if possible) fast rotting bits. In short the approach (more info in bugzilla) : - Intercept every PDB call if a macro recorder

Re: Menubar in fullscreen mode [Re: [Gimp-developer] the userinstaller]

2003-07-16 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Alan Horkan wrote: On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Sven Neumann wrote: Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 13:57:18 +0200 From: Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Menubar in fullscreen mode [Re: [Gimp-developer] the user

Re: Menubar in fullscreen mode [Re: [Gimp-developer] the userinstaller]

2003-07-16 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Nathan Carl Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fullscreen mode was added to be able to view the image in a neutral environment w/o being distracted by any user interface elements. Adding a menubar would completely ruin this effort. I'm sure any

Re: [Gimp-developer] tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans

2003-07-18 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, I'd like to inform you about our plans for the GIMP 2.0 release. First of all, Mitch and me are not willing to raise the 2.0 versus 1.4 discussion again. Gimp is more than Mitch and me, isn't it? Both sides have expressed their arguments. We

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: ANNOUNCE: gimp-plugin-template 1.3.1

2003-07-25 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote: Hi. I do not know the X11 license, but changing the license of the plugin template recalls me of one thing: If the GIMP is under the GPL, with no exceptions listed were appropriate, them it is ilegal for non GPL-compatible plugins to be

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: ANNOUNCE: gimp-plugin-template 1.3.1

2003-07-28 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, Adam D. Moss wrote: 2) It might be argued that the basic dependance and interconnection of a not-GPL-compatible plug-in with the GPL GIMP core via libgimp and the wire protocol is intimate enough that the two cannot be considered independent and separate

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-07-30 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 30 Jul 2003, Jay Cox wrote: This was the first chance I've had to spend quality time with gimp in several years. After this long separation from gimp, I feel that my eyes are pretty fresh. Whho! I think I speak for all of us old fogies when I say, Welcome back! Rockwalrus

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-07-31 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Jay Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You have a point, I dont much like the proposed solution though. Any other solution would probably be too complex to implement at this point in the release cycle. We finally got rid of the palettes being

Re: [Gimp-developer] Third big serious meeting from GIMPcon

2003-08-09 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
Like in any Free Software project, developers are leaving from time to time to pursue other projects. And from time to time, new developers are joining the team and starting to contribute. However, it looks like the number of new developers joining the GIMP development has been decreasing

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GimpCon RFC: Portable XCF

2003-08-11 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Adam D. Moss wrote: IIRC, the Loki guys. Some ramblings a few years ago on the problems of interoperability of game data between windows/mac/linuxx86/linuxalpha/etc over network and on disk. They made a special point of saying something like 'never, ever serialize

Re: [Gimp-developer] GimpCon RFC: Portable XCF

2003-08-11 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
Good to get some high-quality feedback. On Sat, 9 Aug 2003, Leonard Rosenthol wrote: At 6:01 PM -0700 8/8/03, Nathan Carl Summers wrote: Let us start with an existing graphics format, for inspiration if nothing else. OK. The format I chose is PNG, because it is arguably the best

Re: [Gimp-developer] Portable XFC

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Leonard Rosenthol wrote: At 1:47 PM +0200 8/14/03, Sven Neumann wrote: I'd like to mention that none of the proposed formats except the XML approach would be capable of supporting the stuff we want to add to GIMP with GEGL. Well, that pretty much settles that

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GimpCon RFC: Portable XCF

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Øyvind Kolås wrote: * Adam D. Moss [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030814 09:59]: Stephen J Baker wrote: So, I think what is needed to make a reliable file format is to provide a well written library for reading and writing the files that's freely available and properly

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GimpCon RFC: Portable XCF

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Adam D. Moss wrote: Nathan Carl Summers wrote: On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Adam D. Moss wrote: IIRC, the Loki guys. Some ramblings a few years ago on the problems of interoperability of game data between windows/mac/linuxx86/linuxalpha/etc over network and on disk. They made

Re: [Gimp-developer] GimpCon RFC: Portable XCF

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Leonard Rosenthol wrote: At 11:42 PM + 8/13/03, Phil Harper wrote: well, it'd be interesting to see if Adobe added XCF to Photo$hop, after all, GIMP is the competition, it wouldn't be in their interests to support a multilayered image format that it controlled by

Re: [Gimp-developer] Portable XFC

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Sven Neumann wrote: [Note: quote blocks have been reordered for clarity] Hi, I'd like to mention that none of the proposed formats except the XML approach would be capable of supporting the stuff we want to add to GIMP with GEGL. On the contrary, my proposal would

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GimpCon RFC: Portable XCF

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2003-08-08 at 1801.54 -0700): Portable XCF would use a chunk system similar to PNG, with two major differences. First, chunk type would be a string instead of a 32-bit value. Second, chunks can contain an

[Gimp-developer] GimpCon RFC: Portable XCF

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
Several XCF formats have already been proposed; why should I propose another? It seems to me like the existing proposals have all missed the main point. While they have nice properties for certain extreme cases, they miss the boat when it comes to the main point of a graphics format, which is to

Re: [Gimp-developer] GimpCon RFC: Portable XCF

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Sat, 9 Aug 2003, Leonard Rosenthol wrote: I see fast loads as an absolute requirement. Then we need to also look at the GIMP itself and what can be done there. Of course. Hopefully, GIMP's file handling will improve to the point where it will load thing on an as-needed basis.

RE: [Gimp-developer] Re: GimpCon RFC: Portable XCF

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003, Austin Donnelly wrote: How is the serialization done then, just a raw 32-bit IEEE float dump with a predefined endianness? 64-bit doubles just as easy? Yup. The real problem comes when your code is running on a system without IEEE float support, and you need to

Re: [Gimp-developer] Portable XFC

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, I never understood the reasoning for this discussion anyway. IMHO the format that Nathan suggested seems like something from the dark ages of file formats (where TIFF and the like originated from). PNG is something from the dark ages? I

Re: [Gimp-developer] Documentation of the GIMP-1.3 internals

2003-08-19 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, there is something I hacked up during GimpCon and I thought it might be of interest to some of you although it's not yet finished (and perhaps YEY! (This is a very good thing.) Rockwalrus ___

Re: [Gimp-developer] Proposal for protesting against softwarepatents in Europe

2003-08-27 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Raphaël Quinet wrote: Well, this may be a bit controversial, I don't think that there is any disagreement about software patents among the major gimp developers. but I thought about supporting the demonstration against software patents in Europe by replacing the GIMP

Re: [Gimp-developer] Screenshot plug-in status

2003-09-11 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, Alan Horkan wrote: I only ask that you take a moment and consider if there might be a way to make things faster for the user which is where speed really counts. Could some of the handling of the system clipboard be done automatically and only when needed to mitigate the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Redo shortcut (was: Undo shortcut)

2003-09-23 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
/me returns from the hurricane, finally able to catch up on several days worth of email. On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However I *love* the Ctrl-R binding, especially because it lets me quickly compare the done and undone versions of an image using a single hand with very

Re: [Gimp-developer] Difference between 1.2 .gih and 1.3 .gih files?

2003-09-23 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 23 Sep 2003, Jeff Trefftzs wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 04:10, Michael Natterer wrote: Just open the failing brushes with File-Open and save them again. The plug-in is still able to read these files and will save the new format. Thanks to Dave, Simon, and Mitch for the prompt

Re: [Gimp-developer] Status of gegl, gimp 3.0?

2003-11-05 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 5 Nov 2003, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Piotr Legiecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Indeed. Websites do rarely say anything useful about the state of development of an open source project. If you had a look at CVS, you'd have noticed that there is indeed development going on. Which brings up

Re: [Gimp-developer] Anti-counterfeit software: implications for Open Source

2004-01-21 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 21 Jan 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: What is especially worrying me is that there seems to exist a proposal for EU legislation to require devices and software to include counterfeit deterrence technology: http://www.ecb.int/pub/legal/c_25520031024en00080008.pdf This document explicitely

Re: [Gimp-developer] The GNU Image Manipulation Program

2004-01-28 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Dave Neary wrote: Hi all, Dave Neary wrote: Because of its continued excellence and longstanding presence as a key free program, I think that the GIMP deserves an OSA. Apologies for jumping the gun, I hope I didn't step on anyone's toes doing this. I personally

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X

2004-02-11 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004, Daniel Egger wrote: On Feb 11, 2004, at 4:06 pm, Sven Neumann wrote: Daniel recently posted a list of X extensions supported by the Apple X11 server. The MIT-SHM extension was part of this list but today I found that at least in darwinports gtk2 is compiled with the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Costs estimates

2004-02-23 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, Dave Neary wrote: Hi all, For funding requests for GIMPCon in Norway, it will be very useful to have cost estimates for the event for the GIMP. Could everyone planning to go to Kristiansand send an estimate of how much money they will need to get there? Ugh! I can't

Re: [Gimp-developer] The GIMP Foundation

2004-03-08 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Mon, 8 Mar 2004, Daniel Rogers wrote: Hello again, It has been awhile since I have done a GIMP Foundation update. There is quite a bit that must be decided on at this point. Also, people need to decide how invovled they would like to be. My goals for The GIMP really boil down to

Re: [Gimp-developer] The GIMP Foundation

2004-03-08 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 8 Mar 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Nathan Carl Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In my mind one of the major reasons to have a Gimp Foundation is to put all of our IP ducks in a row. As I've said before I don't think that having contributors sign over copyright to TGF would

[Gimp-developer] PDB Named Parameters

2004-03-20 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 08:56:36AM +0100, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: [stuff deleted] The only thing that struck me as missing was the work involved with porting the plug-ins to the new API, but Raphaël already pointed that out in another

[Gimp-developer] PDB requirements (was: PDB named and default parameters)

2004-03-24 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, Manish Singh wrote: On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 09:44:25PM +0100, David Neary wrote: How far along is the planning? I have heard of Rock's libpdb, which I believe he wants to finish for 2.2, but I hadn't heard any concrete plans for the often-mentioned forthcoming PDB

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.0.0. out, gimp.org dead?

2004-03-25 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 25 Mar 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Branko Collin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As some of you may have noticed, for a short while there was a www.gimp.org that claimed a release of GIMP 2.0.0., and Slashdot confirms it, so it may be true. The corpse of the Slashdot story has grown

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.0.0. out, gimp.org dead?

2004-03-25 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 25 Mar 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Nathan Carl Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, urls like http://www.gimp.org/~tml don't work, but you probably already knew that. http://wilber.gimp.org/~tml does work still. It works again now. Hmm, not for me: Not Found The requested URL

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.0.0. out, gimp.org dead?

2004-03-25 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 25 Mar 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Nathan Carl Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not Found The requested URL /~tml/index.html was not found on this server. IIRC the URL is either http://www.gimp.org/~tml/gimp/win32/ or http://www.gimp.org/win32/. Yeah, I know that. That url

Re: [Gimp-developer] interface nomenclature

2004-04-01 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 1 Apr 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: This linked state does not only affect movement, it also applies to transformations. Interesting. I did not know that. You learn something every day. Rockwalrus ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Gimp-developer] software patent protest?

2004-04-19 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: Hi, On Mon, 2004-04-19 at 14:57, Branko Collin wrote: I noticed that http://www.gimp.org has gone 'black', in order to protest European software patents. A noble cause, for sure, but should this not have been announced at least, perhaps

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Gimp usability tests

2004-04-21 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Juhana Sadeharju wrote: From: Roman Joost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tasks for the first test (all-day-usage; all of the are common tasks for all people, except the one where the indicated group is mentioned): Could you also make a proper usability test for the rectangular

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Gimp 2.0

2004-04-22 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Carol Spears wrote: while i appreciate someone else being the new person to really abuse the mail lists (try cc and one time multiple mailings). ((check to see if it is sent to the list or not)). (((forgive me when i screw up, sometimes -- all i get is mail list mail)))

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Gimp 2.0

2004-04-22 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, Carol Spears wrote: i have a bad opinion of someone who so easily gets to change things on an established list. If I recall correctly, it was Dave who was asking for changes to the list, or rather, a return to the civility that once was here. if you want a friendly mail

Re: [Gimp-developer] status report from the development branch

2004-04-22 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 22 Apr 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: - A plug-in to load and save windows icon files has been added. I figured that the plug-in is not working correctly at the moment. Not sure what exactly is going wrong but there's some debugging needed here. I'm not sure what the problem you are having

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: [Gimp-user] Environment settings big images

2004-04-23 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 23 Apr 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Photoshop handles large images better than GIMP. That's a known fact and it's not trivial to improve. How, exactly? AFAIK they don't load the full image into memory. If you open a large image, only the

Re: [Gimp-developer] CVS statistics

2004-04-23 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 23 Apr 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, for those of you that are into statistiscs, have a look at this: http://libresoft.dat.escet.urjc.es/cvsanal/gnome-cvs/index.php?menu=Modulesmodule=gimp Obviously, the top 21 on that page should get special privileges. ;) Rockwalrus

Re: [Gimp-developer] OpenGL under GIMP ??

2004-04-30 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 30 Apr 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Pablo Quinta Vidal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is my first post to the list and I want to know if its possible to use OpenGL under GIMP. GIMP doesn't use OpenGL but of course a GIMP plug-in can use whatever library it wants to use as long as

[Gimp-developer] Gimp Menu Reorganization

2004-04-30 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
Hmm, the last message I sent seemed not to get through, so here it is another time. Noting that several people have expressed desires to improve GIMP's menu structure, I have started a Wiki page which we can use as a whiteboard for rearraigning the menu items. I have even started to group the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Re: more GIMP foundation stuff

2004-04-30 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Daniel Rogers wrote: The second structure is the officers. These are the people like the president, tresurer, and secratary. The duties of these officers are set in the bylaws. The board members can be officers and [officers] are generally appointed by the board. This

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-03 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 3 May 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are only a very small number of people who really believe this to be still the case. It may still be called the GIMP Toolkit (but more more I've heard it called the GNOME Toolkit), but that is a

[Gimp-developer] new file-new dialog (Was: Joining the GNOME Foundation)

2004-05-03 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 3 May 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: PS: See http://sven.gimp.org/gimp-new-image-dialog.png for an almost HIG compliant file-new dialog. This is a screenshot from the HEAD branch. Looks fantastic! I really like the hideaway Image Comment section. Here are just a few minor suggestions

Re: [Gimp-developer] status report from the development branch

2004-05-03 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 4 May 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Nathan Carl Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I didn't address yet is the fact that the HIG suggests to left-align labels of UI controls while we currently consistenly right-align labels so that they are close to the control

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-03 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Sat, 1 May 2004, David Neary wrote: Hi all, Myself and Dan Rogers will be meeting with someone from the GNOME Foundation this week with the intention of having greater co-operation with them on things like money. For the moment, I am working under the supposition that the best option

Re: [Gimp-developer] new file-new dialog (Was: Joining the GNOME Foundation)

2004-05-03 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] accidentally forgot to cc the mailing list. Forwarded with his permission. Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 16:53:32 -0500 From: Seth Burgess [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nathan Carl Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] new file-new dialog

[Gimp-developer] Re: new file-new dialog (Was: Joining the GNOME Foundation)

2004-05-03 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Mon, 3 May 2004, Seth Burgess wrote: Also, from the HIG: Its just my opinion, but I think showing 3 places of precision past the decimal for resolution is a bit excessive and I would hazard rarely adds any useful information. Good point. I disagree on the vertical separator - I think

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp Menu Reorganization

2004-05-03 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Sun, 2 May 2004, David Neary wrote: Sven Neumann wrote: Nathan Carl Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/GimpMenuReorganization Very nice. I wonder if there's a way to convert between the menu XML files and the Wiki content. That would make it possible

Re: [Gimp-developer] status report from the development branch

2004-05-03 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 3 May 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, here's another summary of what's happening in the HEAD branch, what do watch out for if you want to join development and where help is needed... Mitch has almost finished the port of the menus to GtkUIManager. The new code is in use now and seems to

Re: [Gimp-developer] Plug-in howto

2004-05-03 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 3 May 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, dgo was started to finally give an alternative to this outdated sourceforge site, so please consider to help with dgo instead. It's in CVS, you have write access, feel free to improve it. Do you have to run

Re: [Gimp-developer] status report from the development branch

2004-05-04 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 4 May 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Branko Collin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By abbreviating 'Scale Y:' to 'Y:', you are forcing the user to make an extra mental transaction, namely to first read the 'Scale X:' label, which only is partially related to what the 'Scale Y:' control

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp Menu Reorganization

2004-05-05 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Wed, 5 May 2004, Ellen Reitmayr wrote: Hi all, I just wanted to let you know that I'm still there to attend to some usability issues! Roman and I did some usability testing, and we wrote an article for the German Linux User based on the findings. In the meantime, we were both quite

Re: [Gimp-developer] Another new image dialog mockup

2004-05-07 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 7 May 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Nathan Carl Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I took a look at the new image dialogs on the list today, and I made a few improvements. I've posted them at http://wilber.gimp.org/~rock/NewDialogSimple.png and http://wilber.gimp.org/~rock

Re: [Gimp-developer] scale image/layer UI analysis

2004-05-17 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 17 May 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: Well, we don't have such an entry and I don't see it being added for GIMP 2.2. So for now we should IMO keep the changes to the dialog purely cosmetic. It will help users to be able to recognize the Scale dialog that they have worked with in earlier GIMP

Re: [Gimp-developer] None

2004-05-21 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Thu, 20 May 2004, William Skaggs wrote: The motivation for doing this is that it seems to me that the existing edge detection plug-ins distributed with Gimp are rather weak in terms of output quality Yeah, I've never been very happy with them. (their advantage is that, because they are

Re: [Gimp-developer] None

2004-05-21 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 21 May 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: Also I remember that the plan was to move all edge algorithms into edge.c in order to obsolete the other plug-ins in the distribution. That tasks has probably not been finished before 2.0. Might be a good time to do that now. Come to think of it, it might

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