Re: [Gimp-developer] xwd screen shot problems

2001-08-25 Thread Robin Rowe
Hi. Unless I'm mistaken xwd isn't capable of capturing 24-bit visuals. It seems almost useless on modern hardware. Is this an issue that has been discussed here before? Attempting to capture graphics-intense windows with xwd on x86-based XFree86 3.x or 4.x just gives a misleading error message,

Re: [Gimp-developer] xwd screen shot problems

2001-08-27 Thread Robin Rowe
it seems you are mistaken. What makes you think xwd can't capture TrueColor? How are you using the term 24-bit visuals here (24 bit color-depth or 24 bit aligned pixels) ? xwd: Warning. Error in XWD-color-structure (flag) xwd: EOF encountered on reading xwd: load_image (xwd): XWD-file

[Gimp-developer] Film Gimp climbing the charts

2002-09-26 Thread Robin Rowe
of the release of version 0.4 at SourceForge, Film Gimp is starting to climb the charts. Activity rating has passed 90% and Film Gimp is now ranked at #912 on SourceForge. For further information see: http://filmgimp.sourceforge.net Cheers, Robin Rowe Film Gimp Release Manager

[Gimp-developer] Re: Film Gimp-print

2002-09-26 Thread Robin Rowe
Robert, The Gimp-print package is 16-bit capable (obviously the standard GIMP Print plugin, which is part of the Gimp-print package, isn't). While the only 16-bit input mode provided is CMYK, we could either add a 16-bit RGB input, or do the appropriate conversion module. Would you folks

[Gimp-developer] CMYK 16-bit print developer sought

2002-10-23 Thread Robin Rowe
I was reading today in the gimp-mailinglist Your dialog with Robert L. Krawitz on 26. september 2002. I hope You can decide for making together an print-plugin in filmgimp. 16 bit is an issue for any serious artist. I work with scanned 16bitimages for creating panoramas. I need to present

[Gimp-developer] Re: CMYK 16-bit print developer sought

2002-10-23 Thread Robin Rowe
Robert, This can't really be lead from the print side. We'll have no problem with 16-bit and CMYK (although we don't currently support 16-bit RGB), but the GIMP side needs to spec an API for it. Hi. Thanks for the clarification. What I meant was print in the magazine/book publishing sense,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Return of 16-bit Per Channel Rendering

2002-11-17 Thread Robin Rowe
Check https://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-film/ The berkeley.edu list is superceded by the Film Gimp list at SourceForge. For current information about Film Gimp see filmgimp.org. Cheers, Robin Film Gimp Release Manager

[Gimp-developer] regex

2002-11-24 Thread Robin Rowe
Hi. GIMP has its own regex.c that the procedural database uses. That seems to look up plug-ins using regexec. I'm having a little difficulty understanding the logic of the code. Can anybody explain how regex is used by GIMP? Why is it necessary? Thanks! Robin

Re: [Gimp-developer] regex

2002-11-26 Thread Robin Rowe
Sven, The regex code is used by gimp-plug-ins-query (and a similar function in script-fu). Yes, I can follow that from the code. I understand what regex does generally, just not why gimp-plug-ins-query needs it. My confusion relates to script-fu and gimp plug-ins with respect to regex. Why

Re: [Gimp-developer] regex+

2002-11-26 Thread Robin Rowe
Simon, My confusion relates to script-fu and gimp plug-ins with respect to regex. Why query a plug-in as a regular expression? What's the point? To have a nice way to specify a search pattern. For thinks like a PDB-Browser for example. Ok, I guess I'm just not making my question clear. I

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: regex+

2002-11-26 Thread Robin Rowe
Carol, well, i use it. honest. Robin, ever try to write a gimp plug-in? How would regex help me write a gimp plug-in? Cheers, Robin --- www.FilmGimp.org www.LinuxMovies.org www.OpenSourceProgrammers.org

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Re: regex+

2002-11-27 Thread Robin Rowe
Carol, this is such a good topic for a tutorial! i needed help to see this stuff at first as well. i don't have time to write the tutorial, but i got some screenshots for it when i have the time. Hi. Thank you for the detailed response. I found that enlightening. Cheers, Robin

Re: [Gimp-developer] regex+

2002-11-27 Thread Robin Rowe
David, I think the point is probably to do a trawl through legacy code and see how much of it can be flushed, if any. I wish! Sometime later. Although regex is available with *nix, it isn't part of Windows. My choice is to remove it or fix the broken regex implemenation included in Film

[Gimp-developer] Re: Film Gimp and GIMP

2002-11-30 Thread Robin Rowe
Hi. Different thoughts about Film Gimp have been been expressed by Gimp folks on the Gimp-developer list over the Thanksgiving holiday. As the Film Gimp release manager, I've found it stimulating reading. Probably anything interesting about that debate has already been thrashed out by others

[Gimp-developer] Re: Film Gimp, GIMP, and GEGL

2002-11-30 Thread Robin Rowe
-developer] I am a newbie, yes its true On 30-Nov-2002, Robin Rowe wrote: A lot of text about how film gimp is trying to be its own thing. Well, first I would like to say film gimp should be moving to a GEGL target. Not because film gimp is gegl, but because gegl is so damn useful. (Well

[Gimp-developer] Re: GIMP Funding

2002-12-01 Thread Robin Rowe
Carol, $1k would not be enough to by the beer for the people who develop The GIMP (if i can at least add correctly). It's true that $1k isn't generally considered a lot of money in funding a software project, but I appreciate getting anything. Linux Fund was very kind to give me a grant. None

Re: [Gimp-developer] Film Gimp and GIMP

2002-12-01 Thread Robin Rowe
Patrick, ...how many _film gimp_ developers are there? The list is here: http://filmgimp.sourceforge.net/people/index.html Cheers, Robin --- www.FilmGimp.org www.LinuxMovies.org www.OpenSourceProgrammers.org -

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GIMP Funding

2002-12-01 Thread Robin Rowe
Carol, one of the news things i read about Film Gimp was that only half of the funding was gotten so only half of the proposal would be achieved.(?) The Newsforge story didn't quite get the details right. Linux Fund asked me to cut the proposal in half, and to complete the first half before

[Gimp-developer] Re: Film Gimp and GIMP

2002-12-02 Thread Robin Rowe
Sven, This document is probably still valid in a lot of points: http://developer.gimp.org/gimp-future Who is working on GEGL and how active is that? Your GIMP team list at http://www.gimp.org/the_gimp_org_about.html includes Mattis and Kimball. Have they done anything with GIMP since

Re: [Gimp-developer] dependable contributions lists

2002-12-06 Thread Robin Rowe
Carol, one person understood my request though :) Robin Rowe volunteered with some scripting. i had really thought that there were enough people in the various gimp places, clever and talented people, that this would not be an issue. Robin volunteering was a nice spot in my day, however, i

[Gimp-developer] Re: Film Gimp and GIMP

2002-12-07 Thread Robin Rowe
Raphaël, For an up-to-date GIMP contributor list see the bottom of http://filmgimp.sourceforge.net/people/index.html . As you have probably seen in the recent discussions on the gimp-developer mailing list, it is not easy to get a correct list of As you have probably seen in the recent

Re: [Gimp-developer] Film Gimp and GIMP

2002-12-08 Thread Robin Rowe
Branko, ... I would like to compliment you and your team on following The Right Way. The Film Gimp team deserves more credit than I for what's been accomplished. Others toiled in secret for years on Film Gimp before I joined the project this summer. Since going public, new developers have

[Gimp-developer] Re: Which Gimp

2002-12-13 Thread Robin Rowe
Sven, I thank Patrick and Raphaël for the apologies they posted. I think that shows class on their part. And even though the discussion became unnecessarily heated, everyone has learned more about the various projects. [Robin's] list gives the wrong impressions that there are separate ports of

Re: [Gimp-developer] Which Gimp

2002-12-13 Thread Robin Rowe
Sven, The whole point here is that instead of a collaborative effort to provide some urgently needed information about the GIMP projects, you just went ahead and put something into public space. It would have been a lot better to prepare a draft and discuss it on the appropriate lists before

Re: [Gimp-developer] Which Gimp

2002-12-14 Thread Robin Rowe
Tor, I agree that with Sven that it's wrong to call GIMP for Windows a separate project. What makes it seem a project is that it has a separate Web page, separate mailing lists, and a well known project leader (you). However, as you now say otherwise, I have updated the Web page accordingly.

Re: [Gimp-developer] someone's hairy to-do list

2003-06-06 Thread Robin Rowe
Sean, i scratched-together a to-do list for my own GIMP wants wishes, and put it online, thought it might be worth sharing: http://gimbal.paunix.org/cs/img/gimp/todo.html ... from the URL: CinePaint cannibalization whatever CinePaint [was: Film GIMP] has for supporting additional image

[Gimp-developer] Re: [CinePaint-dev] GIMP GBR format spec

2003-07-10 Thread Robin Rowe
Free motion picture and still image editing software - Original Message - From: Robin Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 3:11 PM Subject: [CinePaint-dev] cpx file type Hi. Just FYI, creating a new image format called CPX (CinePaint XML

[Gimp-developer] Re: [CinePaint-dev] GIMP/CinePaint fileincompatibility

2003-07-10 Thread Robin Rowe
Ernst, Couldn't both teams try to find a common format? In theory yes, but it seems unlikely. Sven said today that GIMP has been (privately) discussing a new XML-based file format for GIMP for more than three years -- which is the first I've heard of it. However, no spec has been made

[Gimp-developer] Re: [CinePaint-dev] GIMP/CinePaint fileincompatibility

2003-07-09 Thread Robin Rowe
Sven, Hi. Thanks for writing. This is your first post to our list cinepaint-developers, and people here may wonder who you are and why you are introducing yourself by making demands. You haven't identified your role in GIMP and aren't mentioned in the authors list on gimp.org

Re: [Gimp-developer] A comment on CinePaint (was Re: new-xcf)

2003-07-18 Thread Robin Rowe
At 5:10 PM -0400 7/17/03, Christopher Curtis wrote: Just for the record ... I read the CinePaint file format, and it doesn't even resemble XML. Yeah, I've had that argument with Robin - and lost :(. They are going for simple and scriptable over good design - I think they will regret it ver

[Gimp-developer] Re: WilberWorks

2003-10-14 Thread Robin Rowe
The [WilberWorks] website seems bought off and of course not much is left to be found on google and friends. This is the best link I could find: http://linux.rice.edu/webmap/appdescriptions/WilberWorks.html Let's hope one of the folks involved into this can tell us more about the goals of

[Gimp-developer] Re: WilberWorks

2003-10-14 Thread Robin Rowe
Sven, The [WilberWorks] website seems bought off and of course not much is left to be found on google and friends. This is the best link I could find... Google deserves more credit. Here's what Larry Ewing says: http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/gimp/wilber.html According to Wired,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Film Gimp brushes

2003-11-12 Thread Robin Rowe
Sven, - We now support loading of GIMP brush format version 3. That is the format that was introduced by the FilmGimp or CinePaint developers (I don't know exactly when this change was made). CinePaint has made no changes to GIMP file formats. Those modifications predate our involvement,

[Gimp-developer] GIMP Aqua GTK+OSX

2003-12-23 Thread Robin Rowe
GIMP on Mac OS X without X11: http://gtk-osx.sourceforge.net/docs/gimp.html Cheers, Robin --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hollywood, California www.CinePaint.org Free motion picture and still image editing software

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP Aqua GTK+OSX

2003-12-24 Thread Robin Rowe
David Odin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah! Good job. Now, it would be great if you managed to do the same for gimp-1.3.x. If all the necessary libs were ported too, we could even consider to include this in the main tree, WDYT? Thanks, but John-Michael Mulesa deserves the credit. He did the

[Gimp-developer] CinePaint Roadmap

2004-02-18 Thread Robin Rowe
it is going to be a tough act to follow robin rowe and cinepaint. gimp-1.0 rox! Should I feel flattered that GIMP can't stop talking about me and CinePaint, even when it is to spread the misconception that CinePaint is GIMP 1.0? GIMP people have demonstrated a persistent interest

Re: [Gimp-developer] Refactoring code from GPL to LGPL

2004-05-12 Thread Robin Rowe
Sven, Just to clarify for others reading along, my question is not about linking GPL and LGPL. It is about cut-and-pasting code from GPL into LGPL during refactoring. With the benefit of hindsight years later, it seems a maintainer doing code clean-up should find application code that would

Re: [Gimp-developer] Refactoring code from GPL to LGPL

2004-05-13 Thread Robin Rowe
Dave, It seems like you're limiting refactoring to code re-use via extraction to libraries. No, I'm using the same definition that Mat refers to: Refactoring is a disciplined technique for restructuring an existing body of code, altering its internal structure without changing its external

[Gimp-developer] Refactoring?

2004-05-08 Thread Robin Rowe
Would like to better understand the development approach the GIMP has used over the years to segregate code in the main app from code in libgimp. Seem to recall seeing some app code that had moved into libgimp, but am not sure. Do GIMP maintainers later refactor code? Does code in app ever get