[Gimp-developer] CIE-LCH Color selector?

2009-08-03 Thread SHIRAKAWA Akira

Hello,

The last discussion about using CIE LCH for some layer modes made me 
remember that there is a CIE LCH color selector plugin for GIMP that 
many people would like to see included in the main GIMP distribution 
sooner or later. It has room for improvements (for example when colors 
out of gamut are selected it can lead to some strange color selection 
results), but it should be a good start to begin from.


Of course there is the source code available, and it's public domain 
too, according to the author.


I've attached the tar.gz file to this email.

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gimp-lch-selector-0.3.tar.gz
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Re: [Gimp-developer] CIE-LCH Color selector?

2009-08-03 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/03/2009 10:45 AM, SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote:
 Hello,

 The last discussion about using CIE LCH for some layer modes made me
 remember that there is a CIE LCH color selector plugin for GIMP that
 many people would like to see included in the main GIMP distribution
 sooner or later.

Before we add support for picking device-independent colors, the whole 
color selector should be color managed, and it currently isn't. I'm all 
for adding a Lab/LCH color picker when that is fixed though.

  / Martin

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Re: [Gimp-developer] CIE-LCH Color selector?

2009-08-03 Thread SHIRAKAWA Akira
Martin Nordholts wrote:

 Before we add support for picking device-independent colors, the whole 
 color selector should be color managed, and it currently isn't. I'm all 
 for adding a Lab/LCH color picker when that is fixed though.

Ah, I see, thanks anyway for checking it out.

By the way, as I wrote in another message I'm not a GIMP hacker, but by 
not color managed did you refer to this specific implementation of a 
LCH color picker or rather the whole GIMP color picking system?

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Re: [Gimp-developer] CIE-LCH Color selector?

2009-08-03 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/03/2009 05:07 PM, SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote:
 Martin Nordholts wrote:
 Before we add support for picking device-independent colors, the whole
 color selector should be color managed, and it currently isn't.
 
  by
 not color managed did you refer to this specific implementation of a
 LCH color picker or rather the whole GIMP color picking system?


I'm referring to the whole GIMP color picking system. The color picked 
using the default color picker is not represented in a 
device-independent way. One of the consequences is that painting with a 
green brush on a color managed image might not give a green stroke on 
the image. The absence of a color managed color picker becomes evident 
in test images which rotates color, i.e. maps e.g. RGB 0,255,0 in the 
image to RGB 0,0,255 on the screen.

  / Martin

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Re: [Gimp-developer] CIE-LCH Color selector?

2009-08-03 Thread SHIRAKAWA Akira
Martin Nordholts wrote:

 I'm referring to the whole GIMP color picking system. The color picked 
 using the default color picker is not represented in a 
 device-independent way. One of the consequences is that painting with a 
 green brush on a color managed image might not give a green stroke on 
 the image. The absence of a color managed color picker becomes evident 
 in test images which rotates color, i.e. maps e.g. RGB 0,255,0 in the 
 image to RGB 0,0,255 on the screen.

I understand, thanks for explaining.

Can you give a rough estimate of when a color managed picking system 
will be integrated into GIMP ? I've only recently discovered the LCH 
color space / color selection and I think it's a great system. I know I 
could for now simply use the current available color selection module 
(which from what I see is just a graphic interface to do LCH-RGB24 
color conversions, so it's a sort of fake LCH), but it's just my 
curiosity.

Let me guess: this will happen when GEGL will be fully integrated into 
GIMP, right (also allowing higher color bit depths which if I'm not 
wrong the LCH color space needs) ? Then that would be in GIMP 2.10 or 
even later, I think.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] CIE-LCH Color selector?

2009-08-03 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/03/2009 05:44 PM, SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote:
 Can you give a rough estimate of when a color managed picking system
 will be integrated into GIMP ?

Making the color picker color managed has not been incorporated in any 
short or long term plan yet. So yeah, maybe we will get around to do it 
in GIMP 2.10 which has big changes scheduled already.

  / Martin

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