Re: [Gimp-developer] GUI enhancement patch from GIMP UI brainstorm blog

2011-01-08 Thread Ramón Miranda
hello every one! The original Vision and the what if? I have seen the new changes based on UI brainstorm, and i have to say that is very good for testing to have the ability of test new UI changes like MrSigtech. has done. But i agree with main

Re: [Gimp-developer] GUI enhancement patch from GIMP UI brainstorm blog

2011-01-07 Thread sigetch
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Alexia Death alexiade...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, January 05, 2011 19:42:28 sigetch wrote: I tried merging the smooth on top of the master yesterday. It works nicely, I'm very happy to hear that. has a little bit of room for improvement(like makining the

Re: [Gimp-developer] GUI enhancement patch from GIMP UI brainstorm blog

2011-01-06 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 01/06/2011 08:32 AM, Olivier wrote: 2011/1/5 Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com mailto:ense...@gmail.com That is not necessary, the reason I haven't hacked on GIMP the last two months is that I am working on a website which will allow people to easily track progress of GIMP

Re: [Gimp-developer] GUI enhancement patch from GIMP UI brainstorm blog

2011-01-06 Thread Patrick Horgan
On 01/05/2011 07:09 AM, Mathias Lindner wrote: ... much good stuff elided by patrick ... Thank you Mathias. I was also bothered by the tone and thought that it could drive away an obviously talented developer that is motivated to help. Patrick ___

Re: [Gimp-developer] GUI enhancement patch from GIMP UI brainstorm blog

2011-01-05 Thread peter sikking
Bernhard Guillon wrote: I tried to show you why in my previous mail. I can only add that a developer plunking in a code change at users' request and then let users' feedback sort it out is the 'armpit of usability' (i.e. the worst possible). see: What is wrong about a high fidelity

Re: [Gimp-developer] GUI enhancement patch from GIMP UI brainstorm blog

2011-01-05 Thread Mathias Lindner
Can I add something? You all may be right - discussing and checking UI changes are very very important and additional optional features are not the solution. And it makes sense to have one person (or a small group) that knows the way to go and keeps the overview. And on the other side, I can

Re: [Gimp-developer] GUI enhancement patch from GIMP UI brainstorm blog

2011-01-05 Thread sigetch
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 7:39 PM, peter sikking pe...@mmiworks.net wrote: so back to your argument: 1) there is no value in usability testing random ideas, as were implemented here. There are thousands of random ideas, with an infinite number of combinations. there is value in testing UI

Re: [Gimp-developer] GUI enhancement patch from GIMP UI brainstorm blog

2011-01-05 Thread Alexia Death
On Wednesday, January 05, 2011 19:42:28 sigetch wrote: So if you all don't want to accept the toolbar, let's ignore them and discuss about the brush features. Brush features are my domain sort of and theres a lot to merge there. It would be cool to have you on IRC for more immediate chat:)

Re: [Gimp-developer] GUI enhancement patch from GIMP UI brainstorm blog

2011-01-05 Thread Simon Budig
Mathias Lindner (monocero...@googlemail.com) wrote: Can I add something? Sure. :) All fine to now, two controversial opinions that may be solved by some trade-off... But I still have to give some critique: I have experienced similar incidents quite a few times. Again, you may all be right

Re: [Gimp-developer] GUI enhancement patch from GIMP UI brainstorm blog

2011-01-05 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 01/05/2011 07:19 PM, Simon Budig wrote: What currently is needed is some more work on the single-window mode. AFAIK there are some bugs in there and Martin (Enselic) can no longer dedicate as much of his time to it as he used to. It would be awesome if this work could be picked up and

Re: [Gimp-developer] GUI enhancement patch from GIMP UI brainstorm blog

2011-01-05 Thread Olivier
2011/1/5 Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com That is not necessary, the reason I haven't hacked on GIMP the last two months is that I am working on a website which will allow people to easily track progress of GIMP development (or any project for that matter). I expect to be back working on

Re: [Gimp-developer] GUI enhancement patch from GIMP UI brainstorm blog

2011-01-05 Thread Alexia Death
On Wednesday, January 05, 2011 19:42:28 sigetch wrote: So if you all don't want to accept the toolbar, let's ignore them and discuss about the brush features. I tried merging the smooth on top of the master yesterday. It works nicely, has a little bit of room for improvement(like makining the

Re: [Gimp-developer] GUI enhancement patch from GIMP UI brainstorm blog

2011-01-04 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 01/04/2011 08:25 AM, しげっち wrote: Hi, all. I'm recently implementing a GUI features that is inspired by the ideas of the GIMP UI brainstorming. I hope these features to be included or merged into the master branch in some future. So I inform you the patch here. If you're interested in the

Re: [Gimp-developer] GUI enhancement patch from GIMP UI brainstorm blog

2011-01-04 Thread Alexia Death
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/04/2011 08:25 AM, しげっち wrote: - G-Pen algorithm is ported into GIMP trunk. Now smoothing function works for Ink...

Re: [Gimp-developer] GUI enhancement patch from GIMP UI brainstorm blog

2011-01-04 Thread peter sikking
hi しげっち, I'm recently implementing a GUI features that is inspired by the ideas of the GIMP UI brainstorming. you do realise that the brainstorm is a 'sandbox' for ideas? the deal is that everything is OK within a brainstorm (so ideas keep flowing) but that is only _within_ the brainstorm.

Re: [Gimp-developer] GUI enhancement patch from GIMP UI brainstorm blog

2011-01-04 Thread しげっち
Thanks for many comments. 2011/1/4 Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com: Add toolbar for tool-options to GimpImageWindow. http://git.sourceforge.jp/view?p=gimp-painter/gimp-painter-2.7.git;a=commitdiff;h=13c321f2db36bae52b23d4264dee242827bb801c Rather than adding a widgets at the top of the

Re: [Gimp-developer] GUI enhancement patch from GIMP UI brainstorm blog

2011-01-04 Thread peter sikking
しげっち wrote: I know that there was a discussion about the consumption of the vertical space of the toolbar once in the mailing list. I also spent most of a talk at an lgm discussing this topic. in the bigger scheme of things (space, how usable toolbars are) I do not see GIMP having a toolbar.

Re: [Gimp-developer] GUI enhancement patch from GIMP UI brainstorm blog

2011-01-04 Thread しげっち
BTW, I cant find the dynamics editor implementation commits as a patch. Is it in the huge gui merge? Could you lik me to it. I find it interesting, but guiguru might object. Sorry, I misunderstand this paragraph. You can get the patch from this commit.

Re: [Gimp-developer] GUI enhancement patch from GIMP UI brainstorm blog

2011-01-04 Thread sigetch
2011/1/5 peter sikking pe...@mmiworks.net: しげっち wrote: I know that there was a discussion about the consumption of the vertical space of the toolbar once in the mailing list. I also spent most of a talk at an lgm discussing this topic. in the bigger scheme of things (space, how usable

Re: [Gimp-developer] GUI enhancement patch from GIMP UI brainstorm blog

2011-01-04 Thread Simon Budig
sigetch (sige...@gmail.com) wrote: Well, you don't permit the GIMP to have the toolbars even if it is OPTIONAL and it doesn't replace or overwrite any existing GUI policy ? Each and every optional thing is a burden. Even if disabled it clutters the preferences dialog, it makes inconsistent

Re: [Gimp-developer] GUI enhancement patch from GIMP UI brainstorm blog

2011-01-04 Thread Patrick Horgan
I know this has been beat to death before, but just wanted to say please never take away any of my precious real estate at the top and bottom of screens with a horizontal toolbar or anything else! The aspect ratio of screens have gotten so wide these days, I have plenty of extra room at the

[Gimp-developer] GUI enhancement patch from GIMP UI brainstorm blog

2011-01-03 Thread しげっち
Hi, all. I'm recently implementing a GUI features that is inspired by the ideas of the GIMP UI brainstorming. I hope these features to be included or merged into the master branch in some future. So I inform you the patch here. If you're interested in the patch, please discuss about it. The patch