Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp UX: Paste

2010-06-04 Thread Gino D
2010/6/3 Rob Antonishen rob.antonis...@gmail.com: I've been following this with interest. To play with it, I created a script: http://ffaat.pointclark.net/incoming/scripts/paste-as-new-centered.scm It registers as Edit-Paste As-New Centered Layer -Rob A Thank you, Rob, for creating this

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp UX: Paste

2010-06-04 Thread Rob Antonishen
Thank you, Rob, for creating this useful script. If I may, I would like to suggest a little improvement aimed to get Thanks for the suggestion. I have added the check for floating selection. Also, as a point, this can not replace the real ctrl-v as it can not paste stuff from the system

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp UX: Paste

2010-06-03 Thread Gino D
Hi. 2010/6/2 Jason Simanek jsima...@gmail.com: Thanks for pointing out the usefulness of floating selections for scripting/plugins. That makes a lot of sense. But if that is the only usefulness for this special type of layer I think it should be a special behavior that can be employed by

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp UX: Paste

2010-06-03 Thread peter sikking
Gino D wrote: Having said that, if there is no need to merge layers together, but you simply want to manage the pasted object as indipendent layer, then the optimal solution is to use the Paste as New Layer command rather than the Paste command, which actually generates floating selections.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp UX: Paste

2010-06-03 Thread Jason Simanek
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:21 AM, peter sikking pe...@mmiworks.net wrote: Gino D wrote: as I said yesterday, this new-layer-from-clipboard workflow needs attention too. user efficiency (speed!) and flexibility are important here. one aspect (as Gino points out) is default placement of the paste

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp UX: Paste

2010-06-03 Thread peter sikking
Jason Simanek wrote: but in the majority of cases it will be in the 'wrong' position and it needs to be moved to be 'right'. Paste to new layer currently pastes the copied pixels in the top-left. I think Gino suggested that it be changed to 'centered'. It sounds like you are saying it

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp UX: Paste

2010-06-03 Thread Chris Mohler
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Jason Simanek jsima...@gmail.com wrote: It sounds like you are saying it should be pasted to the exact location where it was copied from. I agree. The pasted pixels should end up exactly where I copied them from. From my own (user) perspective, I wholeheartedly

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp UX: Paste

2010-06-03 Thread Rob Antonishen
I've been following this with interest. To play with it, I created a script: http://ffaat.pointclark.net/incoming/scripts/paste-as-new-centered.scm It registers as Edit-Paste As-New Centered Layer This script will paste the contents of the buffer as follows: - If there is a selection, it will

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp UX: Paste

2010-06-03 Thread Sven Neumann
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 13:45 -0400, Rob Antonishen wrote: I bound this to ctrl-v and played for a while and it feels pretty intuitive. One feature is that if you make a selection and go ctrl-x, ctrl-v it pastes the cut out bit exactly where it was cut out from, which makes sense. That is

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp UX: Paste

2010-06-03 Thread Chris Mohler
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org wrote: I bound this to ctrl-v and played for a while and it feels pretty intuitive.  One feature is that if you make a selection and go ctrl-x, ctrl-v it pastes the cut out bit exactly where it was cut out from, which makes sense.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp UX: Paste

2010-06-03 Thread Sven Neumann
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 21:01 +0100, Chris Mohler wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org wrote: I bound this to ctrl-v and played for a while and it feels pretty intuitive. One feature is that if you make a selection and go ctrl-x, ctrl-v it pastes the cut out bit

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp UX: Paste

2010-06-03 Thread Rob Antonishen
Yes more or less. The script pastes as a layer not a floating layer. That is the big difference. And it provides the same alignment behaviour to the new layer which is not the behaviour of the current “paste as layer” (which aligns the new layer at 0,0. -Rob A On 6/3/10, Sven Neumann

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp UX: Paste

2010-06-03 Thread Rob Antonishen
(Sorry for the top post. I was using gmail from my phone and it defaults to that and can't be turned off I don't even see what I am replying to but it sticks it there anyway...) -Rob A ___ Gimp-developer mailing list

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp UX: Paste

2010-06-02 Thread Gino D
Hi. 2010/6/2 Jason Simanek jsima...@gmail.com: A new layer is non-destructive. Why is there a need for this other type of layer? The name 'floating selection' isn't even accurate. This is a collection of pixels. It is not a selection. A selection is an ephemeral mask not a collection of

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp UX: Paste

2010-06-02 Thread Jason Simanek
Gino, On 06/02/2010 06:12 AM, Gino D wrote: 2010/6/2 Jason Simanekjsima...@gmail.com: A new layer is non-destructive. Why is there a need for this other type of layer? The name 'floating selection' isn't even accurate. This is a collection of pixels. It is not a selection. A selection is an

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp UX: Paste

2010-06-02 Thread Michael Schumacher
Von: Jason Simanek jsima...@gmail.com Thanks for listening. If a discussion about these issues has already taken place, please provide URLs to those discussions. I have no intention of reopening discussions that have already been resolved. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=561576

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp UX: Paste

2010-06-02 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
Hi, This has just been discussed in the Libre Graphics Meeting which just took place, and should be the main subject of the Summer of Code project I am mentoring. there are other motives for the Floating Selection (i.e. the quasi layer) to exist, but of course, the existing usability for that is

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp UX: Paste

2010-06-02 Thread peter sikking
Jason Simanek wrote: Has there been any discussion about doing away with the 'floating selection' quasi-layer that occurs after copy/pasting in Gimp? hey, what a coincidence. actually last weekend at lgm there was a meeting (joao, pippin and me) about giving Elle Yan's 'on-canvas tool' SoC

[Gimp-developer] Gimp UX: Paste

2010-06-01 Thread Jason Simanek
Hi, Has there been any discussion about doing away with the 'floating selection' quasi-layer that occurs after copy/pasting in Gimp? I don't mean to compare the Gimp to Photoshop, but it seems like this is a place where Photoshop does the right thing: when graphics are copy/pasted a new layer