Re: [Gimp-developer] Some feedback on Gimp 1.3.x
Hi, MArk Finlay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. Everyone loves a good splash screen, but now Gnome has startup-notification which kinda makes them superflous. Startup notification lets you know that your applications is starting but it is not as intrusive as a splash. I have edited my Gimp Launcher to add the line 'StartupNotify=true' and to change it to run 'gimp-1.3 -s'. To me this feels much snappier than before. And eventually when nautilus has integrated support for startup notification it would make sense to do the same for the gnome mime-type. huh? I doubt that most of our users use Nautilus or even GNOME. The current CVS version of The GIMP now properly supports startup notification and there's a command-line option to disable the splash. What more could you possibly ask for? I still use the right click, and never even notice the menu bar, but for every non-gimp user who sits down at my computer this effectively un-breaks the gimp for them. So what I am suggesting is that this toolbar be enabled by default. If the menubar wouldn't be cut off at the right side but wrap, we could even consider to do this. Since it is rather broken at it is now, I don't want to see it as the default. Of course packagers are free to change the default if they are bundling GIMP for newbies That's as easy as changing one line in the system-wide gimprc. 4. It be great in the Font selection dialog to be able to change the text from my mind is going... to see other characters in the font. Also it'd be better by default to replace this text with a selection of characters, numbers, upper and lower case letters and sysbols. you should at least look at the latest version before you start to criticize things that are known to be under construction. Salut, Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Some feedback on Gimp 1.3.x
On 19-Mar-2003, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, MArk Finlay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. Everyone loves a good splash screen, but now Gnome has startup-notification which kinda makes them superflous. Startup notification lets you know that your applications is starting but it is not as intrusive as a splash. I have edited my Gimp Launcher to add the line 'StartupNotify=true' and to change it to run 'gimp-1.3 -s'. To me this feels much snappier than before. And eventually when nautilus has integrated support for startup notification it would make sense to do the same for the gnome mime-type. huh? I doubt that most of our users use Nautilus or even GNOME. The current CVS version of The GIMP now properly supports startup notification and there's a command-line option to disable the splash. What more could you possibly ask for? I use openbox by itself, with no desktop environment at all. I guess I represent the majority? -- Patrick Diablo-D3 McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music. -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Some feedback on Gimp 1.3.x
Hi, MArk Finlay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One idea is to put a toggle for it in the view menu and have it on by default. This way it will only take an expert user a second to turn it off(obviously it would stay off in future sessions too). there is (of course) a toggle for it in the menu. But this menu only affects this particular view (again of course). I think that Gnome2 has proven to an extent that what works for newbies in not necessarily restrictive for expert users, but I made that point in my origional e-mail so I'm not going to start waffling about it again umm, this is the first time I hear this opinion. What I heard so far is that Gnome2 lack so much of the beloved configurability that a lot of expert users prefer to stay with the 1.4 version for now. Salut, Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Some feedback on Gimp 1.3.x
huh? I doubt that most of our users use Nautilus or even GNOME. The current CVS version of The GIMP now properly supports startup notification and there's a command-line option to disable the splash. What more could you possibly ask for? I guess I'm a bit of reasonable defaults whore. Options are great and all but I think that software should Just Work(TM) by default. I'm not saying that the right way is definately to turn off the splash. But I guess I just like to question things that are assumed to be right because that is the way they are ATM :) Also, I wasn't suggesting that the splash be disabled by default for all platforms - cus that would be stupid. I was just suggestion that the gnome launcher be modified to disable the splash by default. If the menubar wouldn't be cut off at the right side but wrap, we could even consider to do this. Since it is rather broken at it is now, I don't want to see it as the default. Well it being broken ATM isn't really a valid argument in terms of whether it should be on or off in a long term way. I agree that turning it on when it is broken would be a bad idea, but if the idea is going to get shot down, it'd be better to shoot it down for better reasons, and assuming that it will be fixed some day(soon hopefully). One idea is to put a toggle for it in the view menu and have it on by default. This way it will only take an expert user a second to turn it off(obviously it would stay off in future sessions too). Of course packagers are free to change the default if they are bundling GIMP for newbies That's as easy as changing one line in the system-wide gimprc. I think that Gnome2 has proven to an extent that what works for newbies in not necessarily restrictive for expert users, but I made that point in my origional e-mail so I'm not going to start waffling about it again :) you should at least look at the latest version before you start to criticize things that are known to be under construction. good point , will update to cvs. -- .--= [ MArk Finlay - sisob ] =--. [ Gnome User's Board : www.gnomesupport.org/forums ] [ Public Key: http://evolvedoo.sf.net/sisobatericomdotnet.asc ] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
