Re: [Gimp-developer] Spamcop problem

2004-05-19 Thread Manish Singh
On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 10:21:51AM +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I just sent a mail to a gimp.org alias, and it bounced with the 
> following problem:

The gimp.org postmaster address is a much more appropriate place for this
sort of thing than the developer list. Next time, use the proper channels,
please, so that things can come to my attention sooner.

> >This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim).
> >
> >A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
> >recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
> >
> >  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >(generated from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> >SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >host mail1.iha.dk [130.225.184.39]: 554 Service unavailable; Client 
> >host [128.32.112.247] blocked using bl.spamcop.net; Blocked - see 
> >http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?128.32.112.247
> 
> 128.32.112.247 is shill.xcf.berkeley.edu, which is presumably some kind 
> of gateway for gimp.org mail. So getting onto spamcop's blacklist 
> probably means that gimp.org mails aren't going to be too reliable for a 
> while.

Using spamcop is a pretty dumb idea for a university to do, but then
again, the admins at brix's university have show themselves to be rather
not so bright in the past.

What probably happened is an email with a forged from address that happened
to be a spam trap got sent to an invalid gimp.org address, which generated
a bounce message which got flagged as spam.

I've turned on initial verification of receivers to mitigate this. Note
that it's not actually listed in the db anymore. So mails are reliable,
and your statement was unfounded conjecture.
 
> Does anyone know what's wrong with beta.gimp.org at the moment? It's 
> mostly down, but it was up for a while yesterday evening.

It's having some hardware or driver issues, which I've not nailed down
yet.

-Yosh
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Spamcop problem

2004-05-18 Thread Dave Neary
Hi,
Carol Spears wrote:
On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 10:21:51AM +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
128.32.112.247 is shill.xcf.berkeley.edu, which is presumably some kind 
of gateway for gimp.org mail. So getting onto spamcop's blacklist 
probably means that gimp.org mails aren't going to be too reliable for a 
while.
great.  what does this mean about seemingly good information about cvs
versions coming from gimp.org addresses?
Presumably it means that your ISp doesn't use spamcop to block spam, 
unlike brix's university. When I said that they would be unreliable, I 
meant that it may be difficult to send mail to gimp.org addresses - 
since the ISPs/company servers/university servers may be using spamcop.

Cheers,
Dave.
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Spamcop problem

2004-05-18 Thread Carol Spears
Salute again,
On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 10:21:51AM +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
> I just sent a mail to a gimp.org alias, and it bounced with the 
> following problem:
> 
> >This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim).
> >
> >A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
> >recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
> >
> >  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >(generated from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> >SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >host mail1.iha.dk [130.225.184.39]: 554 Service unavailable; Client 
> >host [128.32.112.247] blocked using bl.spamcop.net; Blocked - see 
> >http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?128.32.112.247
> 
> 128.32.112.247 is shill.xcf.berkeley.edu, which is presumably some kind 
> of gateway for gimp.org mail. So getting onto spamcop's blacklist 
> probably means that gimp.org mails aren't going to be too reliable for a 
> while.
> 
> Does anyone know what's wrong with beta.gimp.org at the moment? It's 
> mostly down, but it was up for a while yesterday evening.
> 
great.  what does this mean about seemingly good information about cvs
versions coming from gimp.org addresses?

carol

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[Gimp-developer] Spamcop problem

2004-05-18 Thread Dave Neary
Hi all,
I just sent a mail to a gimp.org alias, and it bounced with the 
following problem:

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim).
A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(generated from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
host mail1.iha.dk [130.225.184.39]: 554 Service unavailable; Client host 
[128.32.112.247] blocked using bl.spamcop.net; Blocked - see 
http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?128.32.112.247
128.32.112.247 is shill.xcf.berkeley.edu, which is presumably some kind 
of gateway for gimp.org mail. So getting onto spamcop's blacklist 
probably means that gimp.org mails aren't going to be too reliable for a 
while.

Does anyone know what's wrong with beta.gimp.org at the moment? It's 
mostly down, but it was up for a while yesterday evening.

Cheers,
Dave.
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David Neary
Phenix Engineering
110 ave Jean Jaures, 69007 Lyon
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