Mailing List Archives [was Re: [Gimp-developer] Text question]
On Monday 28 June 2004 22:19, Scott Griffith at ISES-LLC wrote: After RTFM and finding no workaround, I tried to check the archives of these mailing lists for clues, but the archives I was able to locate at lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU haven't been re-indexed since September of 2003. A search of the rawfiles produced only discussion of the new features, and Google searches did not provide any useful information either. So: I'm going to the source, so to speak. (;-) Just to note that this mailing list has an archive at www.mail-archive.com: http://www.mail-archive.com/gimp-developer%40lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/ Which is up to date and searchable. I had difficulty finding a good archive as well. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:http://shlomif.il.eu.org/ Knuth is not God! It took him two days to build the Roman Empire. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: Mailing List Archives [was Re: [Gimp-developer] Text question]
On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 10:27:54, Shlomi Fish wrote: I had difficulty finding a good archive as well. I always found gmane's interface nicer than mail-archive: http://gmane.org/info.php?group=gmane.comp.video.gimp.devel (and it allows nntp access) -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ for personal mail, replace guest.arnes.si with isg.si An original idea can never emerge from committee in the original. -- Boyle's Fifth Law ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Text question
Hi, William Skaggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First, it's not clear whether you are bothered by the resources Gimp consumes in creating lots of layers, or by the nuisance of managing them. If it's the former, don't worry about it: text layers are very lightweight, and you can create hundreds of them without putting much of a burden on Gimp. That's not really true. A text layer takes as much resources as a pixel layer of the same size. Actually it even takes a tiny little bit more in order to store the text information. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Text question
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Griffith at ISES-LLC) writes: The only way I've found of imitating the old Gimp behavior is to tediously merge down the newly created layer after each item is entered- a very, very painful and extremely time consuming process when working with extremely large files (each merge takes 25-30 seconds in the file I'm currently working with). Is there a workaround? Failing that, can this be regarded as a plea for a backwards compatible render-to-active-layer mode in the Preferences (or tool options) for those few of us users who actually liked it (and depended on it!) the old braindead way it was? I don't think there's a workaround expect Merge Down. I am surprised that you are saying that Merge Down takes considerable time. You should be able to bind a keybinding to it and have it done rather fast. May I ask how large your images are and what average size of text layers you are working with? I am also interested in what tile-cache size you configured since I wonder if perhaps GIMP is working on the swap file if it's that slow for you. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Text question
Just upgraded to Gimp 2.0.0 (under Mac OS X 10.3.3). Everything works well, and most things work *much* better than the great old Gimp 1 under Solaris I've been using for years. The 1Ghz Mac does outrun my old 400MHz Sparc machine by an enormous margin. Big win. Thanks to all you developers for a job well done... Except, unfortunately, for text- and it's a just user-expectation problem. The new behavior of creating a new layer for each individual text object by default breaks my workflow. My tasks using Gimp involve adding literally hundreds of individual text annotations to very large (~200Mb) multilayered image files. I realize that having text set up to go onto separate layers and remain editable will be useful for almost every user of the tool. But it is broken for me, since there doesn't appear to be a way to turn this behavior off and return to the old simple approach. My whole working style has evolved around the old method of simply and quickly rendering it onto the active layer, which I treat as a generic scratch layer while doing the image analysis chores I need to do. The only way I've found of imitating the old Gimp behavior is to tediously merge down the newly created layer after each item is entered- a very, very painful and extremely time consuming process when working with extremely large files (each merge takes 25-30 seconds in the file I'm currently working with). Is there a workaround? Failing that, can this be regarded as a plea for a backwards compatible render-to-active-layer mode in the Preferences (or tool options) for those few of us users who actually liked it (and depended on it!) the old braindead way it was? After RTFM and finding no workaround, I tried to check the archives of these mailing lists for clues, but the archives I was able to locate at lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU haven't been re-indexed since September of 2003. A search of the rawfiles produced only discussion of the new features, and Google searches did not provide any useful information either. So: I'm going to the source, so to speak. (;-) Thanks in advance for your help, and for all your efforts. Adding this new functionality into the text tool has clearly required a lot of effort from a lot of folks for a lot of years: sorry for the semi-negative feedback. As I said, kudos to all of you for the hard work it has taken to make this tool what it is! -skod -- Scott Griffith ISES-LLC 9745 Steeplechase Drive Franktown, CO 80116 303-660-2541 303-660-2542 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Text question
Scott, First, it's not clear whether you are bothered by the resources Gimp consumes in creating lots of layers, or by the nuisance of managing them. If it's the former, don't worry about it: text layers are very lightweight, and you can create hundreds of them without putting much of a burden on Gimp. If it's the latter, that's a different story. At some point Gimp will get the ability to group layers together and collapse the groups in the Layers dialog, but not quite yet. The best suggestion that I can think of, if you really want the old nasty behavior back, since your situation is probably so unusual as not to be worth supporting in the core, is that it would be possible to write a plug-in that would behave more or less like the old text tool: you would make a selection, activate the plug-in, a dialog box would pop up allowing you to type some text, and when you press Okay the text would be written onto the image at the site of your selection. Best, -- Bill __ __ __ __ Sent via the KillerWebMail system at primate.ucdavis.edu ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
