[Gimp-developer] What makes the GIMP toolbox special?

2003-12-01 Thread Carol Spears
hiya, thanks for responding, On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 12:54:12PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: are there other instances of tools that do not appear in either the menus or in the toolbox? No. All tools register a menu entry at least. A few of them set a

Re: [Gimp-developer] What makes the GIMP toolbox special?

2003-11-30 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: are there other instances of tools that do not appear in either the menus or in the toolbox? No. All tools register a menu entry at least. A few of them set a flag that indicates that they don't want to show up in the toolbox. We should probably make

[Gimp-developer] What makes the GIMP toolbox special?

2003-11-26 Thread Carol Spears
hi, question: On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 06:42:21PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Rapha??l Quinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can already add a tools list/grid to whatever dock you like. But this list or grid of tools does not behave like the one in the toolbox, unfortunately. The

Re: [Gimp-developer] What makes the GIMP toolbox special?

2003-11-26 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What about the tools that only appear in the menus? They are tools but not in the toolbox, so what? Actually the toolbox editor that I roughly outlined would allow you to decide for yourself which tools are in the toolbox and which can only be

[Gimp-developer] What makes the GIMP toolbox special?

2003-11-26 Thread Carol Spears
Well ... On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 10:17:46AM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What about the tools that only appear in the menus? They are tools but not in the toolbox, so what? Actually the toolbox editor that I roughly outlined would allow you to

Re: [Gimp-developer] What makes the GIMP toolbox special?

2003-11-25 Thread Nick Lamb
On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 07:25:01PM +0100, Raphaël Quinet wrote: I am questioning this because I think that the fact that the toolbox is special is an artificial limitation that should go away in a future release in order to make the user interface more consistent and easier to use. Artificial

Re: [Gimp-developer] What makes the GIMP toolbox special?

2003-11-25 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Raphal Quinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In most cases, a new user will have two GIMP windows that have more or less the same size: in the current docs, one of them is refered to as the toolbox and the other one is just a dock. Both of them have roughly the same importance: they control

Re: [Gimp-developer] What makes the GIMP toolbox special?

2003-11-25 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On 25 Nov 2003 14:07:12 +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raphaël Quinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For what reason do we want to call one of them the toolbox and treat it in a special way in the code and in the docs? Why couldn't we call any of the top-level control GIMP windows

[Gimp-developer] What makes the GIMP toolbox special?

2003-11-24 Thread Raphaël Quinet
Following the discussion in bug #115092 and according to Sven's suggestion, I am moving a part of the discussion here: what is special about the GIMP toolbox, from a user's point of view? What makes it different from the other docks? There are some subtle differences that are internal and IMHO

Re: [Gimp-developer] What makes the GIMP toolbox special?

2003-11-24 Thread David Neary
Raphaël Quinet wrote: There are some subtle differences that are internal and IMHO not important from the user's point of view: if we look at the remaining differences (again, from the user's point of view, not from the code point of view), what is left? - The toolbox has a menu bar. -

Re: [Gimp-developer] What makes the GIMP toolbox special?

2003-11-24 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Raphal Quinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Following the discussion in bug #115092 and according to Sven's suggestion, I am moving a part of the discussion here: what is special about the GIMP toolbox, from a user's point of view? What makes it different from the other docks? The toolbox

Re: [Gimp-developer] What makes the GIMP toolbox special?

2003-11-24 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 16:52:34 +0100, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raphaël Quinet wrote: There are some subtle differences that are internal and IMHO not important from the user's point of view: if we look at the remaining differences (again, from the user's point of view, not

Re: [Gimp-developer] What makes the GIMP toolbox special?

2003-11-24 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On 24 Nov 2003 17:04:37 +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The toolbox is the first window that opens and the last that closes. Yes, I mentioned this in my message (the code of the GIMP must have at least one window to start with). But this is not something that most users should care

Re: [Gimp-developer] What makes the GIMP toolbox special?

2003-11-24 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Raphal Quinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can already add a tools list/grid to whatever dock you like. But this list or grid of tools does not behave like the one in the toolbox, unfortunately. The grid view does not behave as set of buttons (different background color, no

Re: [Gimp-developer] What makes the GIMP toolbox special?

2003-11-24 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On 24 Nov 2003 18:42:21 +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raphaël Quinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If the menu could also be removed or dragged to another dock, then the last difference between the toolbox and the other docks would go away. Or did I miss something important?

Re: [Gimp-developer] What makes the GIMP toolbox special?

2003-11-24 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Raphal Quinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am questioning this because I think that the fact that the toolbox is special is an artificial limitation that should go away in a future release in order to make the user interface more consistent and easier to use. This discussion is about

Re: [Gimp-developer] What makes the GIMP toolbox special?

2003-11-24 Thread Simon Budig
Raphaël Quinet ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On 24 Nov 2003 17:04:37 +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is even raised when the last image window is closed. It is treated special when you hit Tab. All this makes it the leader window of the GIMP application. But could you