Re: [Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-08-01 Thread LightningIsMyName
Hello, On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/31/10, LightningIsMyName wrote: I don't see GIMP becoming an HTML editor - not only because there is no one with time to develop this (building an html editor is lots of work), but also

Re: [Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-08-01 Thread Joseph Areeda
I'm just starting to learn what it takes to be a GIMP developer so this is more from a user's perspective. In my mind an hmtl layer would serve the same function as a text layer, except that it would provide formatted text. It would be nice if could be stored and edited as html then

Re: [Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-08-01 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/01/2010 09:25 AM, Joseph Areeda wrote: In my mind an hmtl layer would serve the same function as a text layer, except that it would provide formatted text. It would be nice if could be stored and edited as html then rendered on the fly. Hi, If you want more powerful formating of text

Re: [Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-08-01 Thread Kevin Cozens
bob wrote: But I find it an interesting idea that, if it possible to implement in an image editor, could help smooth the process of designing web application front-ends. Anyway, I'm just putting it out there to you guys to see what you think. It might be possible to provide some form of

Re: [Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-08-01 Thread Christopher Curtis
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried GIMP from git? It has been made possible to do per-character formating in text layers there. What format does it save the per-character formatting in? Would HTML be an option? Understanding even a subset

Re: [Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-08-01 Thread LightningIsMyName
Hello On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Christopher Curtis ccurt...@gmail.com wrote: What format does it save the per-character formatting in?  Would HTML be an option? Understanding even a subset of the basic HTML1 tags plus font could likely be a good 80% solution.  That's not to say that

Re: [Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-08-01 Thread peter sikking
Lightning wrote: I don't agree with some of the product vision points as stated in the UI redesign wiki and by some developers (for example that GIMP is meant mainly for high end users and less for simple users - as we discussed on IRC yesterday) well, that is a tricky thing to say. It was

Re: [Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-08-01 Thread peter sikking
Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On 7/31/10, peter sikking wrote: so there is an explicit 'no' for GIMP as a web design tool. You probably meant web programming :) no I really meant the web design job: deciding how all information and interaction is gong to be represented on the page, how the

Re: [Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-08-01 Thread Tobias Ellinghaus
Am Sonntag, 1. August 2010 schrub Christopher Curtis: [...] but HTML is a decent way to store stylized text. HTML may be suitable to store basic things like size, font face, color and so on, but it's far from typographic needs like manual kerning, … HTML isn't meant to describe the form of

[Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-07-31 Thread bob
Hi guys. Smashing magazine linked to an interesting blog entry, where John Nack discusses the possibility of HTML layers in photoshop. If I understand the gist of his proposition/fantasy, the idea is the ultimately his image editor would have a feature that can import, present and edit html

[Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-07-31 Thread bob
Apologies - I forgot to link to the articles in question: http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2010/07/29/in-defense-of-photoshop/ http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2010/06/feedback_please_html5_layers_in_photoshop.html -- bob (via www.gimpusers.com) ___

Re: [Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-07-31 Thread Tobias Ellinghaus
Am Samstag, 31. Juli 2010 schrub bob: Hi guys. Hey. Smashing magazine linked to an interesting blog entry, where John Nack discusses the possibility of HTML layers in photoshop. If I understand the gist of his proposition/fantasy, the idea is the ultimately his image editor would have a

Re: [Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-07-31 Thread LightningIsMyName
Hello, Smashing magazine linked to an interesting blog entry, where John Nack discusses the possibility of HTML layers in photoshop. I'll add to what Tobias said: I don't think that HTML rendering is necessary. Let's look for a moment on what HTML can do: 1. Render images in specific

Re: [Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-07-31 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 7/31/10, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: Smashing magazine linked to an interesting blog entry, where John Nack discusses the possibility of HTML layers in photoshop. I don't see any use cases where that would help. Then you might want to read up on recent trends in web programming. You see,

Re: [Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-07-31 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 7/31/10, LightningIsMyName wrote: I don't see GIMP becoming an HTML editor - not only because there is no one with time to develop this (building an html editor is lots of work), but also because this isn't GIMP's product vision. Really? So GIMP is suddenly not the tool for web developers?

Re: [Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-07-31 Thread peter sikking
bob wrote: Smashing magazine linked to an interesting blog entry, where John Nack discusses the possibility of HTML layers in photoshop. If I understand the gist of his proposition/fantasy, the idea is the ultimately his image editor would have a feature that can import, present and edit

Re: [Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-07-31 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 7/31/10, peter sikking wrote: so there is an explicit 'no' for GIMP as a web design tool. You probably meant web programming :) there is an explicit 'yes' for GIMP as a production tool for all graphics that are used on a website. This does mean that there needs to be better support for

Re: [Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-07-31 Thread Bill Skaggs
It wouldn't be much harder to support html layers than to support text layers, if it were possible to link to a library that would do the rendering. The problem, as somebody pointed out earlier, is that html was never designed to be rendered in a definite way. The idea is really misguided --

Re: [Gimp-developer] html layers

2010-07-31 Thread Tobias Ellinghaus
Am Samstag, 31. Juli 2010 schrub Alexandre Prokoudine: On 7/31/10, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: Smashing magazine linked to an interesting blog entry, where John Nack discusses the possibility of HTML layers in photoshop. I don't see any use cases where that would help. Then you might