I don't really see the value in having the loupe
possess both the magnified view and the focus view.
Several good points have been brought up The
handle must be shorter and translucent (why not just
eliminate the handle?) ... How will the tool behave at
the window limits (with no handle,
Sven Neumann wrote:
Wouldn't it be easier if you could quickly zoom in (and back out again
to the previous zoom level) without having to open a new view for this?
In the SVN version you can already revert to previous zoom level. What's
the point of doing this in a separate window?
Sorry for
Hi,
On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 18:01 +0100, peter sikking wrote:
I am not sure if Sven wants another feature request in bugzilla.
If so I will write it.
Yes sure. We have discussed the feature here and now we should make a
useful bug report from it. That will help to remember the outcome of the
WARNING TO DIALUP USERS! The GIF file linked to in this post weighs in
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Quoting peter sikking [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
saul on the irc made this film (thanks):
http://flashingtwelve.brickfilms.com/GIMP/Temp/loupe-demo.gif
I could imagine here some dust spotting going on, on a
I think that the user should be able to select between
a 1:1 mouse resolution scale and one that matches the
scaling of the loupe's zoom. This would be good to
offer at least on any test version that is developed,
until enough user feedback is obtained to eliminate
one of the options.
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Sven wrote:
I am not sure if Sven wants another feature request in bugzilla.
If so I will write it.
Yes sure. We have discussed the feature here and now we should make a
useful bug report from it. That will help to remember the outcome
of the
discussion and it might attract a developer
On 3/19/07, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We aren't using cairo yet. But I don't see what you would want to use
gdk_draw_drawable() for.
OK - I have more to learn!
app/dialogs/dialogs.c, IIRC
Thanks.
Chris
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Chris,
First off, I want to apologize - it's not my intention to be
combative, and I can be a total ass sometimes.
don't worry, I am also fired up about this one. here is why:
people have talked to me a week or more ago on the irc along the
line of: what's the big deal, one way or another
Peter,
I'm glad you've become the ambassador for this. Your
description of a loupe is basically what I was
proposing in my original bugzilla proposal #409802 (
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409802 ).
Rather than add another proposal, why not just flesh
out the details of your vision
On 3/4/07, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But yes, the most obvious and by far the easiest solution is to add a
tracking view that users can add to their docks similar to the
Navigation dialog.
I've filled out a feature request based on this approach. I've also
taken initial steps to
Hi,
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 04:06 -0500, Chris Mohler wrote:
1. gdk_draw_drawable - should this be used, or dropped in favor of
cairo/gnomecanvas/other?
We aren't using cairo yet. But I don't see what you would want to use
gdk_draw_drawable() for.
2. adding a new widget was pretty
First off, I want to apologize - it's not my intention to be
combative, and I can be a total ass sometimes. Secondly, I wonder if
we should make two feature requests: the first for a dockable
magnifier with options, and the second for a key-triggered pop-up
version of the same magnifier. Should
Sven wrote,
GIMP already has such a dialog among the dockables that the user
can add
to their docks. The easiest and the most consistent way for adding a
magnifier view is to add it as another dockable.
easiest to implement, yes.
It should be pretty
much straight-forward to do that and
Here is the feature request (as I see it): distill away.
Magnifier: (Needs a better name - spy glass, super loupe?)
The maginfier provides the ability to see an up close view of the
area immediately surrounding the cursor, in a manner that does
Hi,
On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 12:53 -0600, Chris Mohler wrote:
[1] This seems like the best existing dialog to place this. It
doesn't seem to warrant it's own dialog, unless we were to extend the
funtionality into a new info dialog similar to PS, in which the
color values under the cursor are
On 3/4/07, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 12:53 -0600, Chris Mohler wrote:
[1] This seems like the best existing dialog to place this. It
doesn't seem to warrant it's own dialog, unless we were to extend the
funtionality into a new info dialog similar to
Hi,
On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 15:01 -0500,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would seem to me that, depending upon how it were implemented, a
view window with tracking capabilities might be sufficient to meet the
needs of the user without having to resort to the implementation of a
new tool.
I
Hi Gimpers,
allow me to join the brainstorm. As the loupe tool seems to be most
useful for making pixel-perfect selections while retaining a global view
on the image, what if the selection tools provided that functionality?
When creating or resizing selections, the loupe would show up after
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 21:01:47 +0100, peter sikking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let's look at the user requirements: for a _moment_
you want to see what you are _doing_ at high magnification,
while working on a _macroscopic_ scale.
I would like to know why you state that the user requirements
Mark Lowry wrote:
Good point. A GIMP magnifier such as we are
discussing should magnify the actual image, not just
the desktop portrayal of the image.
Yes of course. Sorry not to have explicitly written this.
If a second, stationary window is used rather than a
moving lens, I would
Mark Lowry wrote:
It would be useful to add a temporary magnifying
window that would provide a zoomed-in view of the
area immediately surrounding the cursor.
like this?
http://www.creativepro.com/img/story/20051219_fg5.jpg
assigned to a spring-loaded key (push down: magnifier
appears,
I was thinking more like this ...
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL66/86790/6669793/233033597.jpg
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Mark Lowry wrote:
It would be useful to add a temporary magnifying
window that would provide a zoomed-in view of the
area immediately
On Saturday 24 February 2007 14:12, Mark Lowry wrote:
I was thinking more like this ...
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL66/86790/6669793/233033597.jpg
Hello,
I have to admit that this is a great idea. But I think it is better to have
both normal and magnified view at the same time, because
On 2/24/07, Mark Lowry wrote:
It would be useful to add a temporary magnifying window that would
provide a zoomed-in view of the area immediately surrounding the cursor.
This could be accessed, for example, by pressing SHIFT+Z, upon which a
small window would open up and display the area
Hi,
how should tool interaction work with this? Would you want to see the
mouse cursor in the magnified view? Should you able to interact in it or
is it just a view?
Sven
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Steve Stavropoulos wrote:
I really _miss_ this feature! One of the things I do all the time, is
selecting rectangular regions from an image, with pixel perfect
precision and then copy + paste as new.
The important things in implementing something like this are:
1) You have to have an
IMO, you definitely need to see the mouse cursor in
the magnified view, and you should be able to interact
with it.
Windows has a magnifier that uses a second window for
the magnified display. The good is that the cursor
shows up in the enlarged view ... the bad is that the
window takes up so
Hi,
On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 07:41 -0800, Mark Lowry wrote:
Here's a screen shot of the Windows version in action.
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL66/86790/6669793/233053894.jpg
The Windows version is not bad, but improvements
could be made and I don't know if other operating
systems have
how should tool interaction work with this? Would you want to see the
mouse cursor in the magnified view? Should you able to interact in it or
is it just a view?
IMO, there should be a fixed crosshair or something in the center of
the zoom window that corresponds to the cursor. As the tool
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:10:47 +0100, Akkana Peck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
peter sikking writes:
what I am asking myself is 'does this thing need to be circular?
XEphem has a magnifier in some of its views, like the moon view.
It's just a square with a yellow border, and you can drag the
Hi,
On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 13:29 -0800, Mark Lowry wrote:
If a second, stationary window is used rather than a
moving lens, I would suggest that it should have its
own buttons for controling the magnification level.
Its desktop location should also be able to be
remembered upon exiting GIMP
On 2/24/07, Mark Lowry wrote:
It would be useful to add a temporary magnifying
window that would provide a
zoomed-in view of the area immediately surrounding the
cursor. This could be
accessed, for example, by pressing SHIFT+Z, upon which
a small window would
open up and display the area
On 2/24/07, Alexandre Prokoudine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
to be used (1x, 2x, 3x, 5x, etc.).
It doesn't soom to differ significantly from existing Navigation window
It does! Navigation window provides a zoomed out view of the entire image --
this provides a zoomed in view of the area that
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