Re: [Gimp-developer] Font are small of tool-box in gimp 2.5.4

2009-03-10 Thread Martin Nordholts
Pigeon wrote:
* app/widgets/gimpdock.c: made the font scale factor for the docks
configurable in gtkrc.

* themes/Default/gtkrc
* themes/Small/gtkrc: for documentation purposes, added the
default value for GimpDock::font-scale here. Changed all style
property names to use the canonical names.
 

 It doesn't work (using ubuntu intrepid).

 Changing the GimpDock::font-scale entry has no effect whatsoever on the
 appearance of the fonts.

 Yet another pointless and annoying UI change. Please put it back the way it
 used to be, it wasn't a problem until you messed about with it.

   

Works for me when I put this:

style gimp-default-style
{
  GimpDock::font-scale  = 2.8333
}

in ~/.gimp-2.7/gtkrc. Are you sure you had the right syntax in your gtkrc?

- Martin
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Font are small of tool-box in gimp 2.5.4

2009-03-10 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 21:20 +0100, Pigeon wrote:
 * app/widgets/gimpdock.c: made the font scale factor for the docks
 configurable in gtkrc.
 
 * themes/Default/gtkrc
 * themes/Small/gtkrc: for documentation purposes, added the
 default value for GimpDock::font-scale here. Changed all style
 property names to use the canonical names.
 
 It doesn't work (using ubuntu intrepid).

It works just fine for me and for everyone else.

 Changing the GimpDock::font-scale entry has no effect whatsoever on the
 appearance of the fonts.
 
 Yet another pointless and annoying UI change. Please put it back the way it
 used to be, it wasn't a problem until you messed about with it.

If your mail wasn't so rude, I might even try to find out why it doesn't
work for you. But why should I even talk to you? You have managed to
look up the change in the ChangeLog, you can revert it in your copy of
the source code if that makes you feel better.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-developer] Font are small of tool-box in gimp 2.5.4

2008-09-18 Thread Choi, JiHui
Hi, Sven

Now I know. But in some environments, it's not convenient.
If your system supports cleartype fonts, it may be good, but if not
and you use non-english, it'll be very bad. I think this matter is a
big problem enough to give up to use GIMP.

In my case, I'm used to GIMP UI, and I love GIMP. but I think I'll not
like and will not use GIMP 2.6.x, because of  just the font size. -_-;

so.. I hope you consider once more, please. :)



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Re: [Gimp-developer] Font are small of tool-box in gimp 2.5.4

2008-09-18 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Choi, JiHui wrote:
 Hi, Sven

 Now I know. But in some environments, it's not convenient.
 If your system supports cleartype fonts, it may be good, but if not
 and you use non-english, it'll be very bad. I think this matter is a
 big problem enough to give up to use GIMP.

Hi,

It's impossible to please everybody, and fonts antialiasing is
mainstream these days, working fine on most systems.

Makes me wonder what system you have.

P.S. By the way, there is no such thing as cleartype fonts ;-)

Alexandre
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Font are small of tool-box in gimp 2.5.4

2008-09-18 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 2:26 PM, David Gowers wrote:

 The appropriate solution to this may be to package a simple alternate
 theme which makes the offending fonts larger, and install this theme
 if the language might require it (eg Japanese, Chinese, Korean)

2008-09-18  Sven Neumann

* app/widgets/gimpdock.c: made the font scale factor for the docks
configurable in gtkrc.

* themes/Default/gtkrc
* themes/Small/gtkrc: for documentation purposes, added the
default value for GimpDock::font-scale here. Changed all style
property names to use the canonical names.

:-)

Alexandre
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Font are small of tool-box in gimp 2.5.4

2008-09-18 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:21 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Choi, JiHui wrote:
 Hi, Sven

 Now I know. But in some environments, it's not convenient.
 If your system supports cleartype fonts, it may be good, but if not
 and you use non-english, it'll be very bad. I think this matter is a
 big problem enough to give up to use GIMP.

 Hi,

 It's impossible to please everybody, and fonts antialiasing is
 mainstream these days, working fine on most systems.
Font antialiasing is not sane in some circumstances -- it simply blurs
the glyphs in these cases. For example, complex characters as shown in
Choi's screenshot. if there is SIGNIFICANT detail in antialiasing,
then the font is too small. if there is NOT significant detail in
antialiasing, the font should also look ok without antialiasing.

I would also argue that turning off antialiasing makes virtually
everything more readable, even when the glyphs are simple.

Anyway!

The appropriate solution to this may be to package a simple alternate
theme which makes the offending fonts larger, and install this theme
if the language might require it (eg Japanese, Chinese, Korean)

David
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Font are small of tool-box in gimp 2.5.4

2008-09-18 Thread Guillermo Espertino
 2008-09-18  Sven Neumann
 
 * app/widgets/gimpdock.c: made the font scale factor for the docks
 configurable in gtkrc.
 
 * themes/Default/gtkrc
 * themes/Small/gtkrc: for documentation purposes, added the
 default value for GimpDock::font-scale here. Changed all style
 property names to use the canonical names.
 
 :-)
 
 Alexandre

We all love when grumpy Sven says NO! at first, but later he introduces
silently a patch.
:-)

Now seriously: That's a great option. Too big fonts were a problem for
us who use western characters, because they used a lot of screen space
and now the more compact dialogs look much better. But that seems to be
a problem for systems with eastern characters. So this patch will indeed
make everyone happy.
Thank you Sven!

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Font are small of tool-box in gimp 2.5.4

2008-09-18 Thread Choi, JiHui
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's impossible to please everybody, and fonts antialiasing is
 mainstream these days, working fine on most systems.
 Makes me wonder what system you have.

I use Windows XP pro SP2 korean version. and the default korean font of XP is
gulim. but this font doesn't support cleartype or antialiasing. so many korean
people(or some whose the problem which we have) can't be comfortable.


On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 4:52 AM, Guillermo Espertino
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So this patch will indeed
 make everyone happy.
 Thank you Sven!

Right. Thank you Sven!! :)


Regards,


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Re: [Gimp-developer] Font are small of tool-box in gimp 2.5.4

2008-09-17 Thread Choi, JiHui
I'm sorry. It's the problem of Windows fonts.
I just finished to compile on Ubuntu. and gimp 2.4.5 on ubuntu looks good.

but I still want you, developers, to consider to change the font size.

Regards,

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Font are small of tool-box in gimp 2.5.4

2008-09-17 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 23:22 +0900, Choi, JiHui wrote:

 But something is awkward. It's that texts on tool-box and docks are small.

This behavior is intentional.


Sven


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