thanks. On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:36 AM, < gimp-developer-requ...@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu> wrote:
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(yahvuu) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 03:40:09 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Andrew A. Gill" <superlu...@frontiernet.net> > Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP PDF export plugin > To: Martin Nordholts <ense...@gmail.com> > Cc: gimp-developer <gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU> > Message-ID: <alpine.lnx.1.00.0903260311120.7...@localhost> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Martin Nordholts wrote: > > > > I must say I find this a bit arrogant. > > Maybe. Probably. > > But I think it's time for me a a user to stop telling developers > what I need and to start asking what you need to make that > happen. > > I think it's time to stop looking at this from the position of > nebulous wants and desires and to start looking at the end > product and asking what restrictions need to be placed on its > development. Where does it connect to the rest of the program? > How does it interact with the rest of the program? When we know > that, we'll be able to start figuring out how best to implememt it. > > > Supporting someone that is inexperienced with hacking on the GIMP core > > I'm not asking for support. I'm just asking you what the shape > of the hole is that the CMYK peg must fit into. > > I'm not really suggesting that I tackle the problem, but in my > experience, the first response to ``You should have feature X'' > is usually ``You forgot to attach the patch.'' Talk is cheap, > and somebody needs to offer to help. > > -- > | Andrew A. Gill To ensure continued quality of service, | > | this e-mail is being monitored by the NSA | > | <superlu...@frontiernet.net> <http://www.needsfoodbadly.com> | > -- > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 05:16:20 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Andrew A. Gill" <superlu...@frontiernet.net> > Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP PDF export plugin > To: Vincent Lordier <vincent.lord...@gmail.com> > Cc: GIMP Developer <gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU> > Message-ID: <alpine.lnx.1.00.0903260511520.7...@localhost> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII > > On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Vincent Lordier wrote: > > > Hello happy CMYK warriors, > > > > This is valuable input you're giving actually > > How about collecting these use cases for prepress in the wiki here > > http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/ ? > > Well, I'm a man of my word and so I just contributed my wiki > attempt to do my part to change this from pie-in-the-sky > dreaming. > > There's an incomplete draft here: > > <http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/ToDo/FloorpieCMYK> > > I still need to come up with a good color correction example and > a good rich black example, but I should sleep now. > > -- > | Andrew A. Gill To ensure continued quality of service, | > | this e-mail is being monitored by the NSA | > | <superlu...@frontiernet.net> <http://www.needsfoodbadly.com> | > -- > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:32:31 +0300 > From: Alexandre Prokoudine <alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] a good student UI project... > To: GIMP Developer <gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu> > Message-ID: > <733f2c730903260232v3d481f6fn4d6b8a998c56b...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 4:12 AM, yahvuu wrote: > > > levels, curves - could support the user's intention more directly: > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - mark places in the image, which should be > brighter/darker, > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? or have more/less contrast or modified colors > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - the whitepoint, graypoint pickers could be adjustable > markers > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? on the image. Or a completely different method for > whitebalance? > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - if tones are getting compressed, better control of > where the > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? clipping happens (separately for each of R,G,B, > Value) > > Yup, on-canvas level/curves. Excellent point. > > Another idea: Gradient fill tool that has color stops editable on > canvas (a-la Inkscape). > > Alexandre > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:29:48 +1030 > From: David Gowers <00a...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] a good student UI project... > To: Alexandre Prokoudine <alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> > Cc: GIMP Developer <gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu> > Message-ID: > <23f4e3390903260259p4a6d55ebtb4e9b2d339852...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > gradation map - nearly the same: map image points to positions in the > gradient > Yahvuu, you probably need to clarify: how is this different from > Colors->Map->Gradient Map? > > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine > <alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 4:12 AM, yahvuu wrote: > > > >> levels, curves - could support the user's intention more directly: > >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - mark places in the image, which should be > brighter/darker, > >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? or have more/less contrast or modified colors > >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - the whitepoint, graypoint pickers could be > adjustable markers > >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? on the image. Or a completely different method for > whitebalance? > >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - if tones are getting compressed, better control of > where the > >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? clipping happens (separately for each of R,G,B, > Value) > Better? We already have exact control of clipping for each of > R,G,B,Value , so do you mean a change in the quality of clipping > control? I think this needs to be more specific > > > > > Yup, on-canvas level/curves. Excellent point. > > > > Another idea: Gradient fill tool that has color stops editable on > > canvas (a-la Inkscape). > If I had this, I'd probably delete all my gradients :) IMO this is a > much more usable way in general, and premade gradients cover only a > small subset of use cases. > > David > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:51:30 +0200 > From: Irena Damsky <irena.dam...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] a good student UI project... > To: peter sikking <pe...@mmiworks.net> > Cc: GIMP Developer <gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu> > Message-ID: > <4ecb01410903260951i612ac6a6pebbd3444e1ef5...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Peter Hi, > > I think you should post this question to the GIMP-USERS list. > I find it extremely useful to ask the users themselves what do they want to > be a part of a package they are using... > > Irena > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:38 PM, peter sikking <pe...@mmiworks.net> > wrote: > > > hi all, > > > > at the end of may I am again teaching an interaction design > > course at the FH Voralrberg (university of applied sciences). > > > > here is the plan: the course is in the form of a design project, > > and the students work in small teams on a UI concept for GIMP. > > all (4) teams work on the same design problem. after the thing > > is over and they got their grades, I will take the overall concept > > further using their ideas and then spec a solution. > > > > so now we need a design problem. the course is short but > > intense, 3 days with me full-time to work up a solutions model > > and then they take some days to finish their presentation. > > > > so now huge redesign problems, more something like a compact tool. > > (like the free/poly select tool), or a tricky interactive dialog > > (like, combined brightness/contrast + levels + curves). > > > > please post your suggestions what we could do. > > > > --ps > > > > founder + principal interaction architect > > man + machine interface works > > > > http://mmiworks.net/blog : on interaction architecture > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gimp-developer mailing list > > Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer > > > > > > -- > Irena Damsky > irena.dam...@gmail.com > 057-8165528 > 052-3294417 > you can also find me on MSN: ira_dam...@hotmail.com > > Smile! and the world will smile with you! > Cry! and you'll cry alone... > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > /lists/gimp-developer/attachments/20090326/58e3c3be/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:37:39 +0100 > From: yahvuu <yah...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] a good student UI project... > To: GIMP Developer <gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu> > Message-ID: <49cbbd63.8060...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > hi, > > David Gowers schrieb: > >> gradation map - nearly the same: map image points to positions in the > gradient > > Yahvuu, you probably need to clarify: how is this different from > > Colors->Map->Gradient Map? > > sorry for the misspelling. Exactly Colors->Map->Gradient Map is what i > meant. > Here again, a balance between emphasizing certain photo areas > and adjusting the global tone is desired. > > > >> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 4:12 AM, yahvuu wrote: > >>> - if tones are getting compressed, better control of > where the > >>> clipping happens (separately for each of R,G,B, > Value) > > Better? We already have exact control of clipping for each of > > R,G,B,Value , so do you mean a change in the quality of clipping > > control? I think this needs to be more specific > > Indeed, clipping is under full control right now. Applying the on-canvas > idea, > it's interface could be supplemented by marking the border between > important > image regions and those regions which can be color-clipped without regret. > > More useful would be augmented feedback: > - how harsh does the clipping start? > - which details get lost? > - is one of R,G,B clipping early? > Something more advanced than letting the clipped pixels blink could > be interesting here. > > > greetings, > peter > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Gimp-developer mailing list > Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer > > > End of Gimp-developer Digest, Vol 78, Issue 51 > ********************************************** > -- http://www.watch-movies-online-hollywoodkiller.com
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