Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp swap file increase

2005-04-20 Thread Michael Schumacher
Andrei Simion wrote:

 I haven't downloaded anything from gimp.org so I didn't know the 
 binaries come from other entities. I haven't intended to be 
 disrespectful; if so, please accept my apologies.

IMO you should at least have read it carefully...
Some things don't fit here - on the one hand you're insisting on having
everything tested, on the other hand you seem to be a bit sloppy when
checking the sources (not the source code) where the things actually come
from.

 But let's go back to my problem. There's a swap file increase every time 
 I run a Perl script that creates an image on the GIMP 1.2. I tried to 
 delete the image at the end of my script, just to see if the swap file 
 stops increasing. The result was negative. I cannot change the OS on the 
 server (I have other services running) and everything should be tested. 
 I have to stick on Red Hat.

 The question is whether you have encountered such a problem (swap file 
 increase).
 
 I hope everything is clear now.

Well, lets clear it up:

- GIMP 1.2 is not longer maintained (even GIMP 2.0 isn't)
- there will be no changes to GIMP 1.2 anymore, and thus no further releases
- if you're still using 1.2, your're basically on your own

Compiling 2.2 yourself and testing it (if you don't have test cases, it
would be a good idea to make some up with the current setup) is the best
method to ensure it works fine. I'm actually a bit surprised that you'd rely
on others to test the software you're using - do you want to blame someone
else if it fails?


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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp swap file increase

2005-04-20 Thread Andrei Simion
Michael Schumacher wrote:
Well, lets clear it up:
- GIMP 1.2 is not longer maintained (even GIMP 2.0 isn't)
- there will be no changes to GIMP 1.2 anymore, and thus no further releases
- if you're still using 1.2, your're basically on your own
Compiling 2.2 yourself and testing it (if you don't have test cases, it
would be a good idea to make some up with the current setup) is the best
method to ensure it works fine. I'm actually a bit surprised that you'd rely
on others to test the software you're using - do you want to blame someone
else if it fails?
No. I'd only prefer to have a binary release for the OS I work on. Of 
course I'll compile and test it, but wouldn't be better if others would 
have tested it previously?

Anyway, I'd like to thank Manish for answering my questions.
Andrei
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp swap file increase

2005-04-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Andrei Simion [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 If you can create a simple test case that shows the problem, we can
 try to help you debugging it. So far you didn't even tell us what
 version of GIMP you are using.

 You are right. Here is the script:

You still didn't tell us what version of GIMP you are using. Looking
at your script makes me think it might be GIMP 1.2. At least the way
you select fonts is definitely an artefact from a script written for
GIMP 1.2.


Sven

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp swap file increase

2005-04-19 Thread Andrei Simion
Hi,
Sven Neumann wrote:

You still didn't tell us what version of GIMP you are using. Looking
at your script makes me think it might be GIMP 1.2. At least the way
you select fonts is definitely an artefact from a script written for
GIMP 1.2.
Yes, it is GIMP 1.2.
Andrei
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp swap file increase

2005-04-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Andrei Simion [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 You still didn't tell us what version of GIMP you are using. Looking
 at your script makes me think it might be GIMP 1.2. At least the way
 you select fonts is definitely an artefact from a script written for
 GIMP 1.2.

 Yes, it is GIMP 1.2.

GIMP 1.2 is not any longer supported (for quite a while already). Your
best bet is to update to GIMP 2.2. That will also give you the benefit
that you don't any longer need to run an X server with it.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp swap file increase

2005-04-19 Thread Andrei Simion
Thanks a lot!
Andrei
Sven Neumann wrote:
Hi,
Andrei Simion [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

You still didn't tell us what version of GIMP you are using. Looking
at your script makes me think it might be GIMP 1.2. At least the way
you select fonts is definitely an artefact from a script written for
GIMP 1.2.
Yes, it is GIMP 1.2.

GIMP 1.2 is not any longer supported (for quite a while already). Your
best bet is to update to GIMP 2.2. That will also give you the benefit
that you don't any longer need to run an X server with it.
Sven
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp swap file increase

2005-04-19 Thread Andrei Simion
Hi,
Sven Neumann wrote:

GIMP 1.2 is not any longer supported (for quite a while already). Your
best bet is to update to GIMP 2.2. That will also give you the benefit
that you don't any longer need to run an X server with it.
The problem is that 2.2 doen't work with Red Hat and we cannot change 
the OS. We can upgrade the GIMP to the version 2.0. Is it OK? Is 2.0 
enough advanced to get rid of the problem with the swap file?

Thanks,
Andrei
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp swap file increase

2005-04-19 Thread Manish Singh
On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 06:11:26PM -0400, Andrei Simion wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Sven Neumann wrote:
 
 
 
 GIMP 1.2 is not any longer supported (for quite a while already). Your
 best bet is to update to GIMP 2.2. That will also give you the benefit
 that you don't any longer need to run an X server with it.
 
 The problem is that 2.2 doen't work with Red Hat and we cannot change 
 the OS. We can upgrade the GIMP to the version 2.0. Is it OK? Is 2.0 
 enough advanced to get rid of the problem with the swap file?

2.2 works with Red Hat just fine. So I don't know what the issue is.
Just use 2.2.

-Yosh
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp swap file increase

2005-04-19 Thread Andrei Simion
Manish Singh wrote:
On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 06:11:26PM -0400, Andrei Simion wrote:
Hi,
Sven Neumann wrote:

GIMP 1.2 is not any longer supported (for quite a while already). Your
best bet is to update to GIMP 2.2. That will also give you the benefit
that you don't any longer need to run an X server with it.
The problem is that 2.2 doen't work with Red Hat and we cannot change 
the OS. We can upgrade the GIMP to the version 2.0. Is it OK? Is 2.0 
enough advanced to get rid of the problem with the swap file?

2.2 works with Red Hat just fine. So I don't know what the issue is.
Just use 2.2.
At gimp.org they don't have downloads for 2.2. If you say it works, this 
is good. But why they don't say the same on the web site.

Thank you,
Andrei
-Yosh
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp swap file increase

2005-04-19 Thread Carol Spears
On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 06:35:42PM -0400, Andrei Simion wrote:
 
 At gimp.org they don't have downloads for 2.2. If you say it works, this 
 is good. But why they don't say the same on the web site.
 
perhaps you could paste the url to where the web site suggested that you
download gimp-1.2?

carol

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp swap file increase

2005-04-19 Thread Andrei Simion
Carol Spears wrote:
On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 06:35:42PM -0400, Andrei Simion wrote:
At gimp.org they don't have downloads for 2.2. If you say it works, this 
is good. But why they don't say the same on the web site.

perhaps you could paste the url to where the web site suggested that you
download gimp-1.2?
http://gimp.org/unix/
Sorry for the confusion. They don't have 2.2 downloads that work with 
Red Hat. This is what I meant. Check out the link above.

Once again my appologies.
Andrei
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp swap file increase

2005-04-19 Thread Manish Singh
On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 06:35:42PM -0400, Andrei Simion wrote:
 Manish Singh wrote:
 
 On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 06:11:26PM -0400, Andrei Simion wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Sven Neumann wrote:
 
 
 
 GIMP 1.2 is not any longer supported (for quite a while already). Your
 best bet is to update to GIMP 2.2. That will also give you the benefit
 that you don't any longer need to run an X server with it.
 
 The problem is that 2.2 doen't work with Red Hat and we cannot change 
 the OS. We can upgrade the GIMP to the version 2.0. Is it OK? Is 2.0 
 enough advanced to get rid of the problem with the swap file?
 
 
 2.2 works with Red Hat just fine. So I don't know what the issue is.
 Just use 2.2.
 
 At gimp.org they don't have downloads for 2.2. If you say it works, this 
 is good. But why they don't say the same on the web site.

If you're looking for binaries, Fedora Core 3 is listed, which would be
a Red Hat. You can build from source on any Linux distro though.

-Yosh
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp swap file increase

2005-04-19 Thread Andrei Simion
Manish Singh wrote:
On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 06:35:42PM -0400, Andrei Simion wrote:
Manish Singh wrote:

On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 06:11:26PM -0400, Andrei Simion wrote:

Hi,
Sven Neumann wrote:

GIMP 1.2 is not any longer supported (for quite a while already). Your
best bet is to update to GIMP 2.2. That will also give you the benefit
that you don't any longer need to run an X server with it.
The problem is that 2.2 doen't work with Red Hat and we cannot change 
the OS. We can upgrade the GIMP to the version 2.0. Is it OK? Is 2.0 
enough advanced to get rid of the problem with the swap file?

2.2 works with Red Hat just fine. So I don't know what the issue is.
Just use 2.2.
At gimp.org they don't have downloads for 2.2. If you say it works, this 
is good. But why they don't say the same on the web site.

If you're looking for binaries, Fedora Core 3 is listed, which would be
a Red Hat. You can build from source on any Linux distro though.
It's not me the one who decides. If they haven't built and tested the 
2.2 on the older versions of Red Hat, then this solution is not 
acceptable for us.

Andrei
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp swap file increase

2005-04-19 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 08:19:06PM -0400, Andrei Simion wrote:
 
 If you're looking for binaries, Fedora Core 3 is listed, which would be
 a Red Hat. You can build from source on any Linux distro though.
 
 It's not me the one who decides. If they haven't built and tested the 
 2.2 on the older versions of Red Hat, then this solution is not 
 acceptable for us.

Well then this is really a problem for Red Hat, and not the Gimp developers!

-bill!
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp swap file increase

2005-04-19 Thread Michael Schumacher
Andrei Simion wrote:

 At gimp.org they don't have downloads for 2.2. If you say it works,
 this is good. But why they don't say the same on the web site.



 If you're looking for binaries, Fedora Core 3 is listed, which would be
 a Red Hat. You can build from source on any Linux distro though.
  
 It's not me the one who decides. If they haven't built and tested the
 2.2 on the older versions of Red Hat, then this solution is not
 acceptable for us.

Who are the they you are talking about? Just in case you didn't
notice, there are no binaries on gimp.org, all the links point to
external sites. No one from gimp.org explicitely tests GIMP on any
platform, except that the developers run it on their own platforms, of
course.


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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp swap file increase

2005-04-19 Thread Andrei Simion
Michael Schumacher wrote:
Andrei Simion wrote:

At gimp.org they don't have downloads for 2.2. If you say it works,
this is good. But why they don't say the same on the web site.

If you're looking for binaries, Fedora Core 3 is listed, which would be
a Red Hat. You can build from source on any Linux distro though.

It's not me the one who decides. If they haven't built and tested the
2.2 on the older versions of Red Hat, then this solution is not
acceptable for us.

Who are the they you are talking about? Just in case you didn't
notice, there are no binaries on gimp.org, all the links point to
external sites. No one from gimp.org explicitely tests GIMP on any
platform, except that the developers run it on their own platforms, of
course.
I haven't downloaded anything from gimp.org so I didn't know the 
binaries come from other entities. I haven't intended to be 
disrespectful; if so, please accept my apologies.

But let's go back to my problem. There's a swap file increase every time 
I run a Perl script that creates an image on the GIMP 1.2. I tried to 
delete the image at the end of my script, just to see if the swap file 
stops increasing. The result was negative. I cannot change the OS on the 
server (I have other services running) and everything should be tested. 
I have to stick on Red Hat.

The question is whether you have encountered such a problem (swap file 
increase).

I hope everything is clear now.
Thank you,
Andrei
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp swap file increase

2005-04-19 Thread Manish Singh
On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 08:57:49PM -0400, Andrei Simion wrote:
 Michael Schumacher wrote:
 
 Andrei Simion wrote:
 
 
 At gimp.org they don't have downloads for 2.2. If you say it works,
 this is good. But why they don't say the same on the web site.
 
 
 
 If you're looking for binaries, Fedora Core 3 is listed, which would be
 a Red Hat. You can build from source on any Linux distro though.
 
 
 It's not me the one who decides. If they haven't built and tested the
 2.2 on the older versions of Red Hat, then this solution is not
 acceptable for us.
 
 
 Who are the they you are talking about? Just in case you didn't
 notice, there are no binaries on gimp.org, all the links point to
 external sites. No one from gimp.org explicitely tests GIMP on any
 platform, except that the developers run it on their own platforms, of
 course.
 
 I haven't downloaded anything from gimp.org so I didn't know the 
 binaries come from other entities. I haven't intended to be 
 disrespectful; if so, please accept my apologies.
 
 But let's go back to my problem. There's a swap file increase every time 
 I run a Perl script that creates an image on the GIMP 1.2. I tried to 
 delete the image at the end of my script, just to see if the swap file 
 stops increasing. The result was negative. I cannot change the OS on the 
 server (I have other services running) and everything should be tested. 
 I have to stick on Red Hat.

So build 2.2 on whatever Red Hat distro you use. There is no reason 2.2
should not work on it.

 The question is whether you have encountered such a problem (swap file 
 increase).

There aren't any known problems like this in 2.2. There are in 1.2,
along with hundreds of other problems.

-Yosh
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp swap file increase

2005-04-18 Thread Andrei Simion
Hi,
Sven Neumann wrote:
Hi,
Andrei Simion [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I have a problem with my Gimp server which runs on Linux. Every time I
create an image, the memory used by the Gimp increases. I tried to
delete the image at the end of the Perl subroutine that creates it,
but the memory usage still goes up and is never freed. As a result, I
have to restart the gimp server periodically.

If you can create a simple test case that shows the problem, we can
try to help you debugging it. So far you didn't even tell us what
version of GIMP you are using.
You are right. Here is the script:
#!/usr/bin/perl
use Gimp :auto;
use Gimp::Fu;
# create a footer image
sub newimage {
my ($width, $height,
$texture,
$color1, $color2,
$blend_direction, $blend_offset) = @_;
# Create a new image
$img = gimp_image_new($width, $height, RGB);
# Create a new layer
$layer = gimp_layer_new($img, 725, 125, RGB, Layer 1, 0, 
NORMAL_MODE);

# define the background colors
$backgroundcolor = #FF; # blue
$foregroundcolor = #FF; # red
gimp_palette_set_background($backgroundcolor);
gimp_palette_set_foreground($foregroundcolor);
# add the layer to the image
gimp_image_add_layer($img, $layer, -1);
# gimp_selection_all($img);
gimp_layer_add_alpha($layer);
gimp_drawable_fill($layer,BG_IMAGE_FILL);
# gimp_selection_border($img, 3);
#script_fu_addborder($img, $layer, 3, 3, #00, 100);
gimp_palette_set_background(#00);
# define first region
gimp_rect_select ($img, 0, 0, 725, 5, 2, 0, 0); # (x1, y1, x2, y2)
# fill the region
gimp_bucket_fill($layer,BG_BUCKET_FILL,0,100,100,0,0,0);
# define the second region
gimp_rect_select ($img, 0, 120, 725, 125, 2, 0, 0);
# fill the second region
gimp_bucket_fill($layer,BG_BUCKET_FILL,0,100,100,0,0,0);
# define the left lateral region
gimp_rect_select($img, 0, 0, 5, 125, 2, 0, 0);
# fill the region
gimp_bucket_fill($layer,BG_BUCKET_FILL,0,100,100,0,0,0);
# define the right lateral region
gimp_rect_select($img, 720, 0, 725, 125, 2, 0, 0);
# fill the region
gimp_bucket_fill($layer,BG_BUCKET_FILL,0,100,100,0,0,0);
my $text = text;
my $font = qq{-*-agenda-medium-r-normal-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-*};
my $text_layer = gimp_text_fontname($layer, 0, 0, $text,
-1, #border
1, #antialias
48, #size
0, #size type
$font
);
# determine the position of the text
my $texty = $height/2 - $text_layer-height/2;
my $textx = $width/2 - $text_layer-width/2;
# pull out text layer we were checking size and fonts on.
gimp_image_remove_layer($img,$text_layer);
# create again the layer
my $text_layer = gimp_text_fontname($layer, $textx, $texty, $text,
-1, #border
1, #antialias
48, #size
0, #size type
$font
);
gimp_floating_sel_anchor($text_layer);
# draw the border (cannot define its width)
   # script_fu_addborder($img, $layer, 3, 3, #00, 1);
#$layer2 = gimp_layer_new($img, 725, 5, RGB, Layer 2, 0, 
NORMAL_MODE);
#gimp_image_add_layer($img, $layer2, -1);
#gimp_selection_all($img);
#gimp_layer_add_alpha($layer2);
#gimp_drawable_fill($layer2,FG_IMAGE_FILL);

# Set the background to the required color
# gimp_palette_set_foreground($color1);
# gimp_palette_set_background($color2);
# Paint the layer
#gimp_edit_fill($layer, BG_IMAGE_FILL);
#gimp_edit_fill($layer2, FG_IMAGE_FILL);
# delete the image
gimp_image_delete($img);
# Return the image
# return $img;
}
register
newimage2, # fill in name
Create a footer,  # a small description
for sitesell gimp project,   # a help text
Andrei Simion,# Your name
,# Your copyright
2005-04-17,  # Date
Toolbox/Xtns/Perl-Fu/Tutorial/newimage,   # menu path
*,   # Image types
[
 [PF_INT,   width,  Img width, 725],
 [PF_INT,  height,  Img height, 80],
 [PF_STRING,texture,Background Pattern, none],
 [PF_COLOR, color1, background color, [255,0,0]],
 [PF_COLOR, color2, Blend color, [0, 0, 255]]
],
\newimage;
exit main();
So, even though I delete the image, the swap file continues to increase.
You can solve the problem by restarting the Gimp server from time to 
time. But this is not an elegant way to solve the problem.

Andrei

Sven
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp swap file increase

2005-04-12 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Andrei Simion [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have a problem with my Gimp server which runs on Linux. Every time I
 create an image, the memory used by the Gimp increases. I tried to
 delete the image at the end of the Perl subroutine that creates it,
 but the memory usage still goes up and is never freed. As a result, I
 have to restart the gimp server periodically.

If you can create a simple test case that shows the problem, we can
try to help you debugging it. So far you didn't even tell us what
version of GIMP you are using.


Sven
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