Re: [Gimp-developer] Polygonal Selection Tool Re: Bug 119646
I don't know what full specifications look like for tools in the gimp but here's a shot. The Polygonal Selection Tool Selects regions by connecting points clicked with line segments Like polygonal select, shift on first click adds to selection, ctrl subtracts, both intersect, alt moves. Holding shift after the first point has been placed constrains line segments to absolute angles divisible by 45. Clicking the last point completes the selection, or hitting enter. I'm not sure which is more congruent with the other tools, should the decision to add, subtract, or intersect selection with modifier keys be made upon enter or first click? Thanks On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 16:56 +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 10:19 -0800, Paul Gnuyen wrote: Implementing this feature as requested, I don't think that a full specification of the polygonal selection tool exists, or am I missing something? I would very much appreciate if new tools or major modifications to existing tools could be discussed and specified before any code is written. Otherwise it's likely that changes will have to be rejected later, which is always frustrating for all parties. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Polygonal Selection Tool Re: Bug 119646
On 12/16/06, Paul Gnuyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what full specifications look like for tools in the gimp but here's a shot. The Polygonal Selection Tool Selects regions by connecting points clicked with line segments Like polygonal select, shift on first click adds to selection, ctrl subtracts, both intersect, alt moves. Holding shift after the first point has been placed constrains line segments to absolute angles divisible by 45. What about ctrl for 15degree constraints, which is what is used by eg. the Measure tool? Otherwise, your spec looks okay to me. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Polygonal Selection Tool Re: Bug 119646
Paul Gnuyen wrote: I don't know what full specifications look like for tools in the gimp but here's a shot. The Polygonal Selection Tool Selects regions by connecting points clicked with line segments There is a cost (complexity, usage of UI bandwidth) to every tool that is added to GIMP. May I ask why are you trying add a tool that does a small part of what the path tool does, and then an automatic path-to-selection? If you can tell me why it is worth the cost, I can help you to make the specification better. --ps principal user interaction architect man + machine interface works http://mmiworks.net/blog : on interaction architecture ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Polygonal Selection Tool Re: Bug 119646
Hi, On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 01:52 -0800, Paul Gnuyen wrote: I don't know what full specifications look like for tools in the gimp but here's a shot. Usually you would start by explaining what the tool is good for. Perhaps explaining some typical usage scenarios. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Polygonal Selection Tool Re: Bug 119646
Bug 119646's priority is marked as high, I thought this was accepted as desirable. The polygonal select tool will act as the freehand tool, making quick additions and subtractions easily done. The path tool requires more clicking and does not support the enabling/disabling of feathering or antialiasing nor the ability to quickly make polygonal shape selections that are at controlled angles. People desire this tool as evidenced by the many dupes of the enhancement request. This is the way all other major graphics programs work, so people are used to this tool and are used to it's workflow. While one could argue, that the freehand tool, polygonal select, and intelligent select could be merged into the same tool, polygonal selection was added to the select shapes from image tool, and was rejected on the basis that such functionality should not be hidden and be easier to access. On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 13:01 +0100, peter sikking wrote: Paul Gnuyen wrote: I don't know what full specifications look like for tools in the gimp but here's a shot. The Polygonal Selection Tool Selects regions by connecting points clicked with line segments There is a cost (complexity, usage of UI bandwidth) to every tool that is added to GIMP. May I ask why are you trying add a tool that does a small part of what the path tool does, and then an automatic path-to-selection? If you can tell me why it is worth the cost, I can help you to make the specification better. --ps principal user interaction architect man + machine interface works http://mmiworks.net/blog : on interaction architecture ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Polygonal Selection Tool Re: Bug 119646
Implementing this feature as requested, I find that there appears to be no way for a tool to handle a double click event as it is eaten further up. Is handling double click impossible from a tool? I currently have the tool autocomplete when someone hits enter, but I'm sure double click would be nicer. Thanks! ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Polygonal Selection Tool Re: Bug 119646
So, are you saying that you never receive events where event-type == GDK_2BUTTON_PRESS? Is there any other way to implement the action you want to bind to doubleclicking? No other tool uses doubleclicking, and consistency is often preferable. Enter should probably be kept even if you do implement another way of accessing autocomplete, since it is consistent with the workings of the transform tools (and a few others?) Personally, I would find some combo of modifiers+click more comfortable than double clicking - I would expect when double clicking that 2 new points would be added in the location of my clicks. On 12/9/06, Paul Gnuyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Implementing this feature as requested, I find that there appears to be no way for a tool to handle a double click event as it is eaten further up. Is handling double click impossible from a tool? I currently have the tool autocomplete when someone hits enter, but I'm sure double click would be nicer. Thanks! ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Polygonal Selection Tool Re: Bug 119646
Hi, On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 10:19 -0800, Paul Gnuyen wrote: Implementing this feature as requested, I find that there appears to be no way for a tool to handle a double click event as it is eaten further up. Is handling double click impossible from a tool? I currently have the tool autocomplete when someone hits enter, but I'm sure double click would be nicer. All our tools are activated on Enter. Double-click doesn't exist in the tool API. IMO it's way more important to have consistent tools, so please stick with the default behaviour. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
