Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: It's getting worse... Now I really want the old rect selection tool back!
On Wed, 2006-07-26 at 18:36 +0200, Karl Günter Wünsch wrote: I just stumbled across the next level in annoyance, resizing does only work when grabbing one of the horizontal delimiter lines, using the vertical delimiters seems to be blocked by some aspect ratio calcuations - Bug #348807. Instead of repeatedly ranting i want the old tool back you should realize that you are using something that is explicitely labeled unstable and in development. So be constructive, thus helping fixing these bugs, or use the stable 2.2 version. ciao, --mitch ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: It's getting worse... Now I really want the old rect selection tool back!
On Wednesday 26 July 2006 19:21, Michael Natterer wrote: Instead of repeatedly ranting i want the old tool back you should realize that you are using something that is explicitely labeled unstable and in development. So be constructive, thus helping fixing these bugs, or use the stable 2.2 version. I am constructive in reporting the bugs. Fixing for me is impossible as the new rect selection tool is undocumented, the interface it uses is unlike any of the other tools from where I could take a hint or two on how to get started understanding it and on top of that there is the complete gibberish of code which implements the object orientation. If code like this is unstable or in development it needs to be labeled clearly as such and not simply toss out the old tried and tested. It could easily have been implemented alongside the old tool without loosing much. I am using (as in productive use) the development branch of GIMP because of certain recent developments I need as a photographer to get my pictures edited, but every time the rect selection tool is taking up more and more of my time because it is very important in my editing and isn't very well thought through. It's all bells and whistles (guide lines, resizing possible) but some of the base functionality the old one had has been broken badly. So my comment is basically one of desperation. I need the current CVS for some of the functionality but at the same time the new rect selection is close of driving me nuts. regards Karl Günter ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: It's getting worse... Now I really want the old rect selection tool back!
On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 07:35:00PM +0200, Karl Günter Wünsch wrote: Instead of repeatedly ranting i want the old tool back you should realize that you are using something that is explicitely labeled unstable and in development. So be constructive, thus helping fixing these bugs, or use the stable 2.2 version. I am constructive in reporting the bugs. Fixing for me is impossible as the new rect selection tool is undocumented, the interface it uses is unlike any of the other tools from where I could take a hint or two on how to get started understanding it and on top of that there is the complete gibberish of code which implements the object orientation. [...] You might want to consider switching to an older revision (probably installing it besides the most recent one) where the old rect select tool is still available. You are experiencing what happens if developers really mean development branch if they say development branch. There may be times where the software is partially or totally broken and this is intended. Simply keep a last works for me version and use it if things get screwed up. Tino. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: It's getting worse... Now I really want the old rect selection tool back!
Karl Günter Wünsch wrote: If code like this is unstable or in development it needs to be labeled clearly as such and not simply toss out the old tried and tested. The whole 2.3 branch is unstable and in development... It could easily have been implemented alongside the old tool without loosing much. I am using (as in productive use) the development branch of GIMP because of ^^ ... that's why it is called the development branch, after all. I need the current CVS for some of the functionality but at the same time the new rect selection is close of driving me nuts. And this is why you did file the bug reports. One of the things I can't understand is why you do double your work by posting the same information here twice (and in a way that is very hard to read, btw - please use empty lines to split your messages into paragraphs). HTH, Michael -- GIMP http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: It's getting worse... Now I really want the old rect selection tool back!
On Wednesday 26 July 2006 19:52, Michael Schumacher wrote: Karl Günter Wünsch wrote: The whole 2.3 branch is unstable and in development... I know, but wasn't the 2.3 branch to be a short lived one, leading quickly to a stable 2.4? And this is why you did file the bug reports. One of the things I can't understand is why you do double your work by posting the same information here twice (and in a way that is very hard to read, btw - please use empty lines to split your messages into paragraphs). I thought a line break would be sufficient to trigger a paragraph, duly noted and will change my posts apropiately. As to why I posted the information twice: There are two reasons, first of all I needed a safety vent for the problems these bugs cause me. And then please have a look at the date I posted the first bugs in my first rant, it's three weeks ago. Besides the first one being classified quickly as confirmed, nobody really looked at them. In my experience (in our company there is a similar bug reporting system) this means that noone cares, or anyone who cares overlooked the reports. With them being given more exposure through the mailing list I can at least now converse with people about what is to be expected of the tool and if my ideas are completely off the trolley - or if they have enough merit as to be classified as true bugs. If the latter is true (as it seems by the comments I now received on the bug reports) then I can at least continue to test the features and if I stumble across something that I classify as broken I can post another bug report. Of course I would rather fix these broken things myself (I am a seasoned software developer in both C and C++, earning my living as a developer) but there is no starting point in the documentation sources for the tool itself - so there is no way for me to get my hands dirty and change anything for the better - except for starting over with a similar but functioning tool as a starting point and trying to carry over as much functionality as possible. regards Karl Günter ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
