Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Patrick McFarland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, you probably should really convert. Convert to Pixels would infact destroy the text object, and make it a real image. And of course, while destroying the text object, you can no longer edit the text. The text layer is always a real

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-28 Thread Tomas Mraz
If you can build from source then you are probably more developer than user anyway. This isn't actually so big problem under Redhat 9 or Redhat 7.3 with Ximian Desktop 2. 1. Have proper devel rpms installed. 2. ./configure make 3. su - 4. cd ... 5. make install It doesn't seem so hard to me.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-28 Thread Branko Collin
On 27 Jul 2003, at 23:00, Patrick McFarland wrote: On 27-Jul-2003, Branko Collin wrote: On 26 Jul 2003, at 18:19, Patrick McFarland wrote: Wrong, Im an artist, and I prefer 1.3 over 1.2. Did you prefer 1.3 in January 2001? Did 1.3 exist in january 2001? As far as I can tell (from

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-28 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also if someone goes to the trouble of providing a patch the rejections needs to be less abrupt if you want people to keep making that effort. I'm sorry for the short mail. I was about to leave town for a few days and I preferred a quick reply over no

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-28 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Austin Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So is the current 1.3.x build environment documented in the HACKING file (or elsewhere)? I'm guessing that the file is probably out of date, or lacking things. It is documented in INSTALL, I don't think it is missing things and it certainly is

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-28 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Alastair Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's only recently I've installed GTK2 and got the PangoFT2 bits working - and it is a laborious and painful process. Could you please explain what's so painful about it? Almost all distributions include packages for it for quite some time

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-28 Thread Alan Horkan
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Sven Neumann wrote: It's only recently I've installed GTK2 and got the PangoFT2 bits working - and it is a laborious and painful process. Could you please explain what's so painful about it? Almost all distributions include packages for it for quite some time already

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-28 Thread Alastair Robinson
Hi Sven, On Monday 28 July 2003 4:55 pm, Sven Neumann wrote: Could you please explain what's so painful about it? Almost all distributions include packages for it for quite some time already and even compiling from source is pretty much straight-forward. OK, maybe painful was an

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-28 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Patrick McFarland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: to that, having editable font boxen is very nice. (Though, Id like a way to force it to be a rendered layer, because when you change the layer, and accidently edit the layer's text, it erases everything you did.) Yes, we should probably have

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-28 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-07-29 um 01.06 schrieb Alastair Robinson: OK, maybe painful was an exaggeration; really it was just time-consuming; I'm using SuSE 8.0, and don't have -devel packages for even gtk+-1.2 packages on the original CDs. Interesting, I'm pretty sure I put the devel packages on the CD.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-28 Thread Patrick McFarland
On 29-Jul-2003, Sven Neumann wrote: Yes, we should probably have Convert to Pixels for text layers. Since internally we wouldn't really convert, should we perhaps even stick a Convert to Text Layer menu entry to any ex-text-layer so it can be converted back if necessary? Actually, you

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-28 Thread Patrick McFarland
On 29-Jul-2003, Sven Neumann wrote: I wouldn't mind if you or someone else filed bug-reports for these two issues... The Convert To Pixels bug is here: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118547 -- Patrick Diablo-D3 McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer games don't affect kids; I mean

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-27 Thread Branko Collin
On 26 Jul 2003, at 18:19, Patrick McFarland wrote: On 26-Jul-2003, Daniel Egger wrote: I think the problem is that 1.2 is far more used in productive work because artists and designers are afraid running software which is stamped alpha or beta more than just occasionally. Wrong, Im an

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-27 Thread Patrick McFarland
On 27-Jul-2003, Branko Collin wrote: On 26 Jul 2003, at 18:19, Patrick McFarland wrote: Wrong, Im an artist, and I prefer 1.3 over 1.2. Did you prefer 1.3 in January 2001? Did 1.3 exist in january 2001? -- Patrick Diablo-D3 McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer games don't affect

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-26 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Miguel Ibarra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's a patch to add optional libstartup-notification support to The Gimp. This will allow desktop managers as Gnome's to entertain users with a *so* funny clock cursor, while Gimp launches and initializes itself. GIMP-1.3 does this already. We

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-26 Thread Adam D. Moss
Sven Neumann wrote: Miguel Ibarra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's a patch to add optional libstartup-notification support to The Gimp. This will allow desktop managers as Gnome's to entertain users with a *so* funny clock cursor, while Gimp launches and initializes itself. GIMP-1.3 does this

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-26 Thread Carol Spears
Adam D. Moss wrote: Sven Neumann wrote: Miguel Ibarra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's a patch to add optional libstartup-notification support to The Gimp. This will allow desktop managers as Gnome's to entertain users with a *so* funny clock cursor, while Gimp launches and initializes itself.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-26 Thread Adam D. Moss
Carol Spears wrote: maybe he doesn't have cvs access That by no means stops anyone from submitting a patch against 1.3. --Adam -- Adam D. Moss . ,,^^ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.foxbox.org/ co:3 That gum you like is going to come back in style.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-26 Thread Alan Horkan
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, Adam D. Moss wrote: Sven Neumann wrote: Miguel Ibarra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's a patch to add optional libstartup-notification support to The Gimp. This will allow desktop managers as Gnome's to entertain users with a *so* funny clock cursor, while Gimp

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-26 Thread David Neary
Adam D. Moss wrote: I'm interested, from a project point of view, why many (a good proportion) of the patches that we get on this mailing list or in bugzilla from 'external' (non-CVS-account) contributors are against 1.2.x. I think there are a few reasons for this. The biggest of them is that

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-26 Thread Adam D. Moss
David Neary wrote: I think there are a few reasons for this. The biggest of them is that setting up a gimp 1.3 compile environment [..] automake, autoconf, libtool, gettext, intltool [..] (png, jpeg, etc) [..] gtk+ with pangoft2, freetype2, fontconfig [..] At least, that's my theory :) It's a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-26 Thread David Neary
Adam D. Moss wrote: David Neary wrote: I think there are a few reasons for this. The biggest of them is that setting up a gimp 1.3 compile environment [..] utomake, autoconf, libtool, gettext, intltool [..] png, jpeg, etc) [..] gtk+ with pangoft2, freetype2, fontconfig [..] At least,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-26 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Sam, 2003-07-26 um 16.39 schrieb Carol Spears: maybe he doesn't have cvs access Doesn't make sense from three perspectives: - One doesn't need CVS to develop a patch - Everyone can get at least anoncvs - There are frequent releases and other means of getting the source I think the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-26 Thread Patrick McFarland
On 26-Jul-2003, Daniel Egger wrote: I think the problem is that 1.2 is far more used in productive work because artists and designers are afraid running software which is stamped alpha or beta more than just occasionally. Wrong, Im an artist, and I prefer 1.3 over 1.2. -- Patrick Diablo-D3

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-26 Thread Alastair Robinson
Hi, On Saturday 26 July 2003 8:04 pm, Adam D. Moss wrote: It's a good theory, being the mysterious reason why my own patches are made against 1.2.x and then blindly Ditto here. There's also a common misconception, dating from the early releases of Gnome 2.0. The first readmes said

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-26 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Son, 2003-07-27 um 00.19 schrieb Patrick McFarland: Wrong, Im an artist, and I prefer 1.3 over 1.2. Good for you. I know at least 6 persons who do not. :) However I'm quite interested in your reasons, would you please elaborate so I can get some feeling what to tell people when they ask me

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-26 Thread Patrick McFarland
On 27-Jul-2003, Daniel Egger wrote: Good for you. I know at least 6 persons who do not. :) However I'm quite interested in your reasons, would you please elaborate so I can get some feeling what to tell people when they ask me reasons for using 1.3. Well, the tabbed dialog boxes, docks, are

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-26 Thread Alan Horkan
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, Patrick McFarland wrote: On 26-Jul-2003, Daniel Egger wrote: I think the problem is that 1.2 is far more used in productive work because artists and designers are afraid running software which is stamped alpha or beta more than just occasionally. Wrong, Im an

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-25 Thread David Neary
Miguel Ibarra wrote: Here's a patch to add optional libstartup-notification support to The Gimp. This will allow desktop managers as Gnome's to entertain users with a *so* funny clock cursor, while Gimp launches and initializes itself. I hope the maintainers find this worthy of being

Re: [Gimp-developer] Startup Notification support...

2003-07-25 Thread Carol Spears
Miguel Ibarra wrote: Here's a patch to add optional libstartup-notification support to The Gimp. This will allow desktop managers as Gnome's to entertain users with a *so* funny clock cursor, while Gimp launches and initializes itself. I hope the maintainers find this worthy of being included in