Re: [Gimp-developer] default setup for 2.4 comments

2006-12-20 Thread Kevin Cozens
Sven Neumann wrote: Unless we change something, users upgrading from 2.2 will have exactly this experience though. Currently we migrate the sessionrc, so the docks setup is kept when upgrading to GIMP 2.4. The gimprc is also migrated, but since we have changed the default value, the fg/bg

Re: [Gimp-developer] default setup for 2.4 comments

2006-12-20 Thread Kevin Cozens
Sven Neumann wrote: On Fri, 2006-12-15 at 01:54 -0500, Kevin Cozens wrote: I will start trying out the new system. The main downside I see at the moment is that of increased mouse mileage from needing to move between the top of the toolbox dialog to the bottom of the Layer/Channels/Paths

Re: [Gimp-developer] default setup for 2.4 comments

2006-12-20 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 15:37 -0500, Kevin Cozens wrote: I don't see why the default settings for new installs should have any affect on the migration of an existing installation. A new install will wind up with rc files with all the default settings. No, it won't, for purely technical

Re: [Gimp-developer] default setup for 2.4 comments

2006-12-14 Thread Laxminarayan Kamath
On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:36:53 -0500, Adrian Likins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 8. Maybe some more examples of pixmap/hose brushes. I kind of hate that green pepper and vine brush (and I made them...). Not sure what exactly yet, but I have some ideas: some more : 1) Mouse cursors (nice

Re: [Gimp-developer] default setup for 2.4 comments

2006-12-14 Thread Kevin Cozens
Akkana Peck wrote: I'm not Kevin, but I had the same reaction he did. In my defense (and maybe Kevin's), when the toolbox selectors disappeared, the new dialogs didn't automatically make themselves visible, so it just looked like a bug that they were suddenly gone, and getting back my color

Re: [Gimp-developer] default setup for 2.4 comments

2006-12-14 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2006-12-15 at 01:54 -0500, Kevin Cozens wrote: I will start trying out the new system. The main downside I see at the moment is that of increased mouse mileage from needing to move between the top of the toolbox dialog to the bottom of the Layer/Channels/Paths dialog to alter

Re: [Gimp-developer] default setup for 2.4 comments

2006-12-13 Thread Akkana Peck
Sven Neumann writes: On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 15:18 -0500, Kevin Cozens wrote: I prefer to have these showing in the toolbox. When I lost them a some time ago after a cvs up, the first thing I did was find out where they went and how to get them back. You could at least have tried to

Re: [Gimp-developer] default setup for 2.4 comments

2006-12-13 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 11:13 -0800, Akkana Peck wrote: I'm not Kevin, but I had the same reaction he did. In my defense (and maybe Kevin's), when the toolbox selectors disappeared, the new dialogs didn't automatically make themselves visible, so it just looked like a bug that they were

Re: [Gimp-developer] default setup for 2.4 comments

2006-12-12 Thread Kevin Cozens
Raphaël Quinet wrote: On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:36:53 -0500, Adrian Likins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. In the toolbox, the fg/bg color, and brush/patter/gradient boxes should be on. Maybe. But another option (mentioned in your point 2) would be to make sure that the color selector tab is

Re: [Gimp-developer] default setup for 2.4 comments

2006-12-12 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 15:18 -0500, Kevin Cozens wrote: I prefer to have these showing in the toolbox. When I lost them a some time ago after a cvs up, the first thing I did was find out where they went and how to get them back. You could at least have tried to live without them for a

Re: [Gimp-developer] default setup for 2.4 comments

2006-12-12 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, to avoid misunderstandings, I would like to point out that I very much welcome the discussion about the defaults for 2.4. But I think that we should better have it on the gimp-users list. I don't think that developers are good at doing user interface decisions. Most of us (and that includes

Re: [Gimp-developer] default setup for 2.4 comments

2006-12-12 Thread Scott
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 10:04:38PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: to avoid misunderstandings, I would like to point out that I very much welcome the discussion about the defaults for 2.4. But I think that we should better have it on the gimp-users list. I don't think that developers are good at

Re: [Gimp-developer] default setup for 2.4 comments

2006-12-11 Thread Adrian Likins
Sven Neumann wrote: Hi Adrian, On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 21:24 -0500, Adrian Likins wrote: Yup, I'll take this and start putting together a set of brushes. will you also address http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322176 ? Yes. And on the subject of defaults for 2.4, I

Re: [Gimp-developer] default setup for 2.4 comments

2006-12-11 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 11:31 -0500, Adrian Likins wrote: And on the subject of defaults for 2.4, I wonder if it would be useful to include a set of default tool option presets for each tool? I can't think of any useful presets right now and I think we have loads of more important things

Re: [Gimp-developer] default setup for 2.4 comments

2006-12-10 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi Adrian, On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 21:24 -0500, Adrian Likins wrote: Yup, I'll take this and start putting together a set of brushes. will you also address http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322176 ? Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list

Re: [Gimp-developer] default setup for 2.4 comments

2006-12-09 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 15:34 -0500, Adrian Likins wrote: 5. It might be nice to have the stock round/square brushes be dynamic brushes by default. (If I understand correctly, theres a small concern that this might break some existing scripts?) This has been discussed

Re: [Gimp-developer] default setup for 2.4 comments

2006-12-08 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 18:36 -0500, Adrian Likins wrote: 1. In the toolbox, the fg/bg color, and brush/patter/gradient boxes should be on. The brush/patter/gradient boxes are pointless as these can be accessed from the respective tool options. I haven't been using those for years. The

Re: [Gimp-developer] default setup for 2.4 comments

2006-12-07 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 12/7/06, Adrian Likins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. In the toolbox, the fg/bg color, and brush/patter/gradient boxes should be on. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365226 Sven mentions Colors editor palette there. I would also suggest revisiting it and giving it some UI love. In

Re: [Gimp-developer] default setup for 2.4 comments

2006-12-07 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:36:53 -0500, Adrian Likins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sven mention on irc the issue of choosing what the default setup for 2.4 should be. So here are some of my thoughts: 1. In the toolbox, the fg/bg color, and brush/patter/gradient boxes should be on. Maybe. But

Re: [Gimp-developer] default setup for 2.4 comments

2006-12-07 Thread Adrian Likins
Raphaël Quinet wrote: On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:36:53 -0500, Adrian Likins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sven mention on irc the issue of choosing what the default setup for 2.4 should be. So here are some of my thoughts: 1. In the toolbox, the fg/bg color, and brush/patter/gradient boxes

Re: [Gimp-developer] default setup for 2.4 comments (Rapha?l Quinet)

2006-12-07 Thread Martin Nordholts
3. Change the default image size (any particular reason it is 377x233?) I'd suggest 1024x768 I'd suggest VGA (640x480) or even less, so that it fits on a 1024x768 screen. Web statistics from July 2006 show that only 19% of the users have screens larger than 1024x768. While I