Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-28 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 02:07, Daniel Egger wrote: But this it what it looks like after the transformation: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/devel/gimp-help-2/help/C/plainhtml$ ls ch01.html ch03s04.html ch03s09.html ch03s14.html gimp-help-plain.css ch02.html ch03s05.html ch03s10.html

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-28 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-07-29 um 00.07 schrieb Henrik Brix Andersen: I remember using something like the following to use the ids as filenames once: (define %use-id-as-filename% #t) Yeah, this is what we did years back with DocBook/SGML and DSSSL stylesheets. :) The help browser could then check if

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-24 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Daniel Egger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The new docs are designed around a natural reading to ressemble a normal style manual which can be used as an online help as well. Though to get usable results without bending around some filenames we need to directly navigate to the desired point

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-24 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Don, 2003-07-24 um 11.01 schrieb Sven Neumann: Even gimp-1.2 can link to anchors already. There is no need for toplevel HTML files for each and every help topic that should be reachable by pressing F1. In theory, the whole help could be in a single file. That would of course not be useful

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-24 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Daniel Egger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is possible, but using anchors in a file means that last time I looked you cannot render a notice that the help is not available because the help browser would load the file and then jump to the beginning of the document when the anchor doesn't

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-24 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Don, 2003-07-24 um 15.37 schrieb Sven Neumann: The help-browser behaviour for non-existant anchors could probably be changed. I'd have to look into the GtkHTML2 API to give a more definite answer but I think it should be doable. It would be great if you could look it up because this is a

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-24 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Daniel Egger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The help-browser behaviour for non-existant anchors could probably be changed. I'd have to look into the GtkHTML2 API to give a more definite answer but I think it should be doable. It would be great if you could look it up because this is a real

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-23 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you and I are scheduled to discuss this after camp. if you continue to insist to reply to my mail, i will continue to insist that you stick to *your* scheduled time for this discussion. I said that I want to wait till after the camp before I take a

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-23 Thread Carol Spears
Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, can we please try to avoid a flamewar about DocBook here. All our help is in DocBook, it is a well established format for this purpose. I admit that it can be quite complex but it is well documented and you usually need a small subset only. I am sure that people who want

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-23 Thread Carol Spears
David Neary wrote: Carol Spears wrote: Daniel Egger wrote: DocBook was written exactly for the purpose we need. as much as i love gimp, i wonder if someone got their rent paid from netscape.com for making that my choice regardless. With everything else being so sensible in gimp,

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-23 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-07-22 um 21.57 schrieb David Neary: Actually, I'm not sure I see the benefits in not having html as the primary format... Sure, we could go for a format which allows multi-node searching (like info only better), but html docs would have the added benefit of not needing to be

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-23 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-07-22 um 21.03 schrieb Sven Neumann: usually need a small subset only. I am sure that people who want to contribute documentation can learn the necessary bits pretty fast. Or even better: Don't need to... -- Servus, Daniel signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-23 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Daniel Egger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's exactly my point. Sorry to be negative here but I have the very strong feeling that we will not get gimp-help-2 into adequate shape until the projected date of release of GIMP 2.0 and as such it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me to bend

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-23 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Mit, 2003-07-23 um 18.17 schrieb Sven Neumann: I think we could get the framework done for 2.0 and fill in the content when 2.0 is out. Ok, this sounds like a plan; I'm not entirely happy but after all this is not the only of our goals... :) The help files are supposed to be distributed

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-23 Thread Carol Spears
Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you and I are scheduled to discuss this after camp. if you continue to insist to reply to my mail, i will continue to insist that you stick to *your* scheduled time for this discussion. I said that I want to wait till after

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-23 Thread David Neary
Daniel Egger wrote: Am Die, 2003-07-22 um 21.57 schrieb David Neary: Actually, I'm not sure I see the benefits in not having html as the primary format... Sure, we could go for a format which allows multi-node searching (like info only better), but html docs would have the added benefit

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-22 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, can we please try to avoid a flamewar about DocBook here. All our help is in DocBook, it is a well established format for this purpose. I admit that it can be quite complex but it is well documented and you usually need a small subset only. I am sure that people who want to contribute

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp, docbook or apple trees, fruit or seeds

2003-07-22 Thread David Neary
Carol Spears wrote: Daniel Egger wrote: DocBook was written exactly for the purpose we need. as much as i love gimp, i wonder if someone got their rent paid from netscape.com for making that my choice regardless. With everything else being so sensible in gimp, how come i did not get a