Re: [Gimp-developer] support for the PSD
On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, Florent Monnier wrote: Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 17:27:30 +0100 From: Florent Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: [Gimp-developer] support for the PSD It is somewhat futile to point out that support for the PSD format needs to be improved. We know that. We know that for several years now. We simply need someone who invests the time to improve it. No need to convince anyone that it is a good idea. rather than doing this job in the gimp, what would you think about extract the current related code to initialize the project of a lib for reading psd? just an idea... ... perhaps more people would be able to get in this projet this way Still faces of the problem of finding a developer interested in working on it. I wouldn't even know where to start. - Alan ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] support for the PSD
It is somewhat futile to point out that support for the PSD format needs to be improved. We know that. We know that for several years now. We simply need someone who invests the time to improve it. No need to convince anyone that it is a good idea. rather than doing this job in the gimp, what would you think about extract the current related code to initialize the project of a lib for reading psd? just an idea... ... perhaps more people would be able to get in this projet this way Still faces of the problem of finding a developer interested in working on it. I wouldn't even know where to start. Do you mean that extracting this code would be hard or long to do? Or that starting a new project requires work? -- ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] support for the PSD
On Friday 03 March 2006 22:41, Florent Monnier wrote: It is somewhat futile to point out that support for the PSD format needs to be improved. We know that. We know that for several years now. We simply need someone who invests the time to improve it. No need to convince anyone that it is a good idea. rather than doing this job in the gimp, what would you think about extract the current related code to initialize the project of a lib for reading psd? just an idea... ... perhaps more people would be able to get in this projet this way Still faces of the problem of finding a developer interested in working on it. I wouldn't even know where to start. Do you mean that extracting this code would be hard or long to do? Or that starting a new project requires work? The big problem with writing a support library for photoshop files is not that it's hard to do -- it's a moderate amount of work, and then some because the public specs aren't complete, but the real problem is that there's nothing public beyond version 6; everything after is closed and forbidden. It's better to spend time getting something together that's open, extensible and fits in with the emerging open document landscape. -- Boudewijn Rempt http://www.valdyas.org/fading/index.cgi pgpGaWQ68PYay.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] support for the PSD
Reaching PS6 compatibility would such a great goal. I know a lot of creatives using just PS6 or 7 and i can't renember that any of them has problems about reading files of newer version like CS1 or CS2. My self getting a legal version of PS6 at work and didn't get any problems neither. A standard that is always activated in the PS preferences is Always maximize Compatibility for Phtotshop files and i do not no anybody that deactivating that. I personal believe that there is no real change of the file format since PSD 6.0. The fact that Adobe does not publish the PS6 SDK (which includes the file format informations) anymore is a hint for that. BTW the SDK is available on other sites on the net i posted the url at the beginning of that thread. This SDK includes sample code too and requires windows. Boudewijn Rempt schrieb: On Friday 03 March 2006 22:41, Florent Monnier wrote: It is somewhat futile to point out that support for the PSD format needs to be improved. We know that. We know that for several years now. We simply need someone who invests the time to improve it. No need to convince anyone that it is a good idea. rather than doing this job in the gimp, what would you think about extract the current related code to initialize the project of a lib for reading psd? just an idea... ... perhaps more people would be able to get in this projet this way Still faces of the problem of finding a developer interested in working on it. I wouldn't even know where to start. Do you mean that extracting this code would be hard or long to do? Or that starting a new project requires work? The big problem with writing a support library for photoshop files is not that it's hard to do -- it's a moderate amount of work, and then some because the public specs aren't complete, but the real problem is that there's nothing public beyond version 6; everything after is closed and forbidden. It's better to spend time getting something together that's open, extensible and fits in with the emerging open document landscape. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer -- |\/\/\/| | | | (O)(O)Bart. C _) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ,_/ | /- Ich bin nicht berechtigt Aushilfslehrer zu feuern - / \ http://www.neeneenee.de ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] support for the PSD
Bart writes: BTW the SDK is available on other sites on the net i posted the url at the beginning of that thread. Surely you aren't suggesting that we should use illegally (well, against its license anyway) redistributed copies of the PS6 SDK to improve the psd plug-in? That would be very unethical and also greatly increase the risk of attacks from Adobe's lawyers. --tml ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] support for the PSD
Mhm, good point, seems you are right. So the legal way could be bying a legal 2nd hand version of PS6 for the developer that develops the PSD support. A PS6 version at ebay is about 40,- euro (new) so if there would be a active gimp developer that would do that no problem sponsor this package so he can get the informations on a legal way. Tor Lillqvist schrieb: Bart writes: BTW the SDK is available on other sites on the net i posted the url at the beginning of that thread. Surely you aren't suggesting that we should use illegally (well, against its license anyway) redistributed copies of the PS6 SDK to improve the psd plug-in? That would be very unethical and also greatly increase the risk of attacks from Adobe's lawyers. --tml -- |\/\/\/| | | | (O)(O)Bart. C _) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ,_/ | /- Ich bin nicht berechtigt Aushilfslehrer zu feuern - / \ http://www.neeneenee.de ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] support for the PSD
Bart wrote: A PS6 version at ebay is about 40,- euro (new) It would be difficult to find one that isn't just a pirated copy, though :) HTH, Michael P.S. Please reply below the quoted text. -- The GIMP http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] support for the PSD
Ok, maybe not using ebay buy a legal PS6 (i renembered that where a lot of PS6 clones called OEM but there was never a PS6 OEM version) but i'm sure i know somebody have a 100% legal version of photoshop and sponsor it to the gimp development. Michael Schumacher schrieb: Bart wrote: A PS6 version at ebay is about 40,- euro (new) It would be difficult to find one that isn't just a pirated copy, though :) HTH, Michael P.S. Please reply below the quoted text. -- |\/\/\/| | | | (O)(O)Bart. C _) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ,_/ | /- Ich bin nicht berechtigt Aushilfslehrer zu feuern - / \ http://www.neeneenee.de ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] support for the PSD
ok, a 100% legal copy from a correct dealer is about 60,- euro. Michael Schumacher schrieb: Bart wrote: A PS6 version at ebay is about 40,- euro (new) It would be difficult to find one that isn't just a pirated copy, though :) HTH, Michael P.S. Please reply below the quoted text. -- |\/\/\/| | | | (O)(O)Bart. C _) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ,_/ | /- Ich bin nicht berechtigt Aushilfslehrer zu feuern - / \ http://www.neeneenee.de ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer