Re: User installation

2000-04-01 Thread Sven Neumann

Hi,

On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 05:29:49AM +0100, Nick Lamb wrote:
 * Is the end-user installation stuff broken, or is it just me? On my
 system, cleaning out all old Gimp installs, installing latest CVS and
 then trying to install Gimp as a new user (ie to create .gimp-1.1 and
 all the rest) does not work. This seems to result from the changes to
 the system data directory... the error is approximately...
 
 /usr/local/share/gimp/user_install [or something] does not exist.

It is just you! Doing a clean installation does not only involve
removing the installed stuff. You should clean your source directory
too and rerun autogen.sh. The problem you see is caused by the fact 
that you did not correctly rebuild llibgimp/gimpenv.o.

 FLAME
 The feature freeze has also thawed again. I can't tell if the new
 trouble I'm seeing is caused by changes to the installer in /app/
 but I shouldn't have to, because IT SHOULD NOT BE BEING REPLACED
 DURING THE FREEZE.
 /FLAME

I will try to ignore the stupidity and ignorance you are expressing...

 I apologise for shouting, but AFAICT again all the existing bugs
 or misfeatures of the old dialog are retained, but now we have
 new bugs and a prettier interface, pardon me if I'm not impressed,
 but right now I can't even install Gimp :(

At least bug #7307 was fixed by our changes.

The problem that people do not adjust important parameters like the
tile_cache_size was discussed several times and each time the only
reasonable solution was to ask for it during the user installation.
I have announced at least twice that I'm planning to change it
and noone objected. 

Please, think about what you have said.  We have put a lot of work 
into this and tried to test everything. You should also not forget 
that Mitch and me are the ones who fix the bugs, not you!



Salut, Sven




Re: User installation

2000-04-01 Thread Manish Singh

On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 12:09:11PM +0200, Sven Neumann wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 05:29:49AM +0100, Nick Lamb wrote:
  * Is the end-user installation stuff broken, or is it just me? On my
  system, cleaning out all old Gimp installs, installing latest CVS and
  then trying to install Gimp as a new user (ie to create .gimp-1.1 and
  all the rest) does not work. This seems to result from the changes to
  the system data directory... the error is approximately...
  
  /usr/local/share/gimp/user_install [or something] does not exist.
 
 It is just you! Doing a clean installation does not only involve
 removing the installed stuff. You should clean your source directory
 too and rerun autogen.sh. The problem you see is caused by the fact 
 that you did not correctly rebuild llibgimp/gimpenv.o.

Automake's dep tracking doesn't get 100% of cases. The datadir moved
into a versioned directory to facilitate version coexistance. It's
controlled by a -D on the compile line, so make doesn't really see it.

-Yosh



Re: User installation

2000-04-01 Thread Nick Lamb

On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 02:58:30AM -0800, Manish Singh wrote:
 Automake's dep tracking doesn't get 100% of cases. The datadir moved
 into a versioned directory to facilitate version coexistance. It's
 controlled by a -D on the compile line, so make doesn't really see it.

make distclean [doesn't/ didn't for me] work, nor did clobbering everything
in sight, but a fresh checkout worked finally. YMMV.

BTW in case there's any doubt, I do *like* the new installer, whatever
the color scheme might say about us, I just want a stable Gimp soon.

Nick.