Re: ban request

2000-12-27 Thread David Dennis

dissenting opinion is usually best left to wander off of its own lack of
purpose.  and he hasn't posted anything bad in a couple of weeks whats the
problem?  i figured it was just pre-finals stress.

it's been my experience that last year's whining screaming can quite often
be next years' thoughtful contribution.  he definitely cares about the
design, enough to get upset and scream about it.  maybe he has to learn
some things, but if you want a nice quiet list full of nice quiet
agreement that sounds more like a support group.  

On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Rebecca J. Walter wrote:

 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:24:45 +0100
 From: Rebecca J. Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: ban request
 
 i would like to request that timecop be banned from this list.
 is that possible? if so, would someone please do that?  he obviously
 fails to appreciate the quality program the developers have made
 available to us and his constant cursing and complaining is a waste of
 band width.
 thank you.
 bex
 




Re: ban request

2000-12-27 Thread Seth Burgess

 it's been my experience that last year's whining
 screaming can quite often
 be next years' thoughtful contribution.  he
 definitely cares about the
 design, enough to get upset and scream about it. 
 maybe he has to learn
 some things, but if you want a nice quiet list full
 of nice quiet
 agreement that sounds more like a support group.  

There's been a level of civility around here that gets
violated from time to time.  Banning is an
overreaction, but whether or not he realizes it, he's
effectively banning himself.  The only reason I might
read one of his posts now is for entertainment
purposes, even though I'm sure he has something useful
to say somewhere.  Its not worth my time to sort
through the insults and profanity to come up with a
small nugget of "that might be useful".  I'm sure I'm
not alone in this regard.

Timecop, please try to remember that developers and
other contributors are people too. 

Happy GIMPing, and may this thread die a timely death.

Seth
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
 On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Rebecca J. Walter wrote:
 
  Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:24:45 +0100
  From: Rebecca J. Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: ban request
  
  i would like to request that timecop be banned
 from this list.
  is that possible? if so, would someone please do
 that?  he obviously
  fails to appreciate the quality program the
 developers have made
  available to us and his constant cursing and
 complaining is a waste of
  band width.
  thank you.
  bex
  
 


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Re: ban request + more

2000-12-27 Thread timecop
Rebecca J. Walter said:
 i would like to request that timecop be banned from this list. is that
 possible? if so, would someone please do that? he obviously fails to
 appreciate the quality program the developers have made available to
 us and his constant cursing and complaining is a waste of band width.
 thank you.
I would like to request that next time you see something that says "you
are easily offended, do not read the rest of this message", you should
follow the advice and not read the rest of the message if you are easily
offended.  However you should read the rest of THIS message.

That being said, I disagree with your comment about the developers. I do
agree that this program in question is "great" but I think without users
feedback it would probably be much more limited than it is now. There is
only so much imagination in a given developer's head, and one of the
reasons gimp is where it is now is because of constructive user feedback.
Adam can write great low-level stuff, but he tells everyone directly that
making it user friendly is not his area of expertise.  Same is true for
others, I am sure.  If gimp is going to get better, easier to use, and
more popular, whatever, then developers should listen to the users once
and a while.  Not every gimp user is going to be a hardcore hax0r who
sleeps dreaming of vi commands and remembers all emacs key bindings.  Mr.
Egger obviously fails to see that point since he doesn't give a fuck about
what us USERS think, he is only interested in his OWN problems.  All is
good, but how can he be working for a software company making software for
users, if he doesn't give a shit about users problems?  Puzzling.

By the way, "band width" is not a word.  It's two words that make no sense
together in this context.  Appropriate word here would probably be
"bandwidth", although I fail to understand how a ~2kb message could be
wasting it.  Even with my limited connection that still means only 5-10
seconds of download.  Text is easily compressible, too.  Most modems
support V.42bis data compression which gives up to a 8:1 ratio for text
content, so amount of bandwidth wasted by my post would be minimal. Beware
though, V.42bis uses a modified Lempel-Ziv algorithm, which is the same
algorithm used to compress .GIF images.  You might need to get a permission
from Unisys before you can receive text compressed using this protocol.

I could be wrong here too but your tone sounds like "oh lets be thankful
to God that this High Group of People created The Greatest Tool Gimp, and
let's never complain about anything because God told them to make Gimp,
and anything God makes is 100% perfect".  That's kinda wrong.  See above.
I noticed even you complained the other day, when you were asking for some
grid related stuff.  But that post was pretty incoherent, and I couldn't
figure out exactly what you were trying to ask.  Sometime it helps if your
request makes sense before other people can start working on it.  If it
was about adding grid to the image when you are zoomed in say 8x or
higher, yes I agree that's a valid idea that should be implemented. But
like I said I really didn't understand what you were talking about.

And if you truly don't like me that much, well, be hardcore and add my
email to your procmail killfile.  I am sure you know how to do that.  But
why bother?  Some day I might email you with info about your husband
cheating on you, and you won't get it, and find out by yourself, and
you'll be so shocked you might die, or have a heart attack, and then
you'll say it was all my fault.  g   Other people could find my posts
funny or amusing, or even useful, why deprive them of reading my stuff
just because YOU don't like me?  Don't take this stuff so personally
either, after all its just a bunch of bits on the network, nothing to get
offended about.

tc

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