Re: Why host plug-ins at SourceForge? (Was: I want to develop IPTC-data support for The Gimp.)

2000-02-29 Thread Daniel . Egger

On 26 Feb, Kelly Lynn Martin wrote:

 It will also force us to develop tools for the separate compilation of
  plugins and develop a plugin interface that is versionable

 The first one is definitely a need but "a plugin interface that is
 versionable"? We do have versioned libraries ensuring that plugins
 always use the right libgimp version and a wireprotocol which checks
 whether a plugin is using the same protocol version as the GIMP. 

-- 

Servus,
   Daniel



Re: Why host plug-ins at SourceForge? (Was: I want to develop IPTC-data support for The Gimp.)

2000-02-27 Thread Sven Neumann

Hi,

 On Sat, Feb 26, 2000 at 02:37:02AM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote:
  (1) Add an online version of the Libgimp documentation to your website.
  You might even want to help us to improve it further. The whole 
  purpose of generating this documents was to help plugin developers.
 
 Hmm.  It appears as if I am going to have to spend a bit more time
 studying up on gtkdoc before it will be willing to build the devel-docs
 for me, but I will look in to this.

Please report back if you have any unsolveable problems. For now you
may want to link to 

http://sven.gimp.org/1.1/libgimp/

but note that the info is only updated manually when I find the time to 
do so.


Salut, Sven




Re: Why host plug-ins at SourceForge? (Was: I want to develop IPTC-data support for The Gimp.)

2000-02-26 Thread Kevin Turner

On Sat, Feb 26, 2000 at 02:37:02AM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote:
 (1) Add an online version of the Libgimp documentation to your website.
 You might even want to help us to improve it further. The whole 
 purpose of generating this documents was to help plugin developers.

Hmm.  It appears as if I am going to have to spend a bit more time
studying up on gtkdoc before it will be willing to build the devel-docs
for me, but I will look in to this.

-- 
Kevin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] | OpenPGP encryption welcome here



Re: Why host plug-ins at SourceForge? (Was: I want to develop IPTC-data support for The Gimp.)

2000-02-25 Thread Sven Neumann

Hi,

just do make my position clear: I was not critizing your decision. My 
feeling was just that we could have built a similar framework on 
available resources with substantial interest and a little effort. 
As long as it helps Gimp development I'm all for it. (That's why I 
pointed Dirk to your project). 

BTW: I think you should try to interact more with the core. This is in 
interest of both parties. Here are a few suggestions, that IMO will
help to improve the situation for all of us:

(1) Add an online version of the Libgimp documentation to your website.
You might even want to help us to improve it further. The whole 
purpose of generating this documents was to help plugin developers.

(2) Try to help us improving the documentation shipped with Gimp. For
example I found an interesting document about plug-in i18n on your 
site . This is something we should add least mention in our 
documentation as a link. I plan to move some of the files in the 
docs directory into devel-docs and I'd love to get some updates /
corrections / links from ypur part as this documentation is primary
targeted to plugin developers.


Salut, Sven

PS: About that document at http://gimp-plug-ins.sourceforge.net/doc/i18n.html:
I stronly encouryge you to ask plugin developers to call their textdomain
gimp-plugin-name instead of only plugin-name. I even thought about
forcing that naming convention when implementing "The i18n solution", but
I guess it should work if we nicely ask people to use it. And you will
want to add an explanation of the proper usage of 
gimp_plugin_add_domain() as soon as we have worked out the remaining
issues.





Re: Why host plug-ins at SourceForge? (Was: I want to develop IPTC-data support for The Gimp.)

2000-02-25 Thread Robert L Krawitz

   From: Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 02:37:02 +0100

   just do make my position clear: I was not critizing your decision. My 
   feeling was just that we could have built a similar framework on 
   available resources with substantial interest and a little effort. 
   As long as it helps Gimp development I'm all for it. (That's why I 
   pointed Dirk to your project). 

Possibly, but is it worth the effort?  VA Linux Systems is backing
SourceForge with some fairly serious hardware (see
https://sourceforge.net/docs/site/hardware.php) and staffing
resources; they have 5 people managing the site.  They have a dozen
machines that I'd guesstimate are about $50K-$100K of hardware (RAID
boxes and fast tape drives aren't cheap), and they've put a lot of
programming effort behind it.  They're basically running a small scale
data center operation.  I have yet to see any sign of downtime on the
entire system.

I'd argue if anything that it would be worthwhile for the Gimp to move
*its* operation to SourceForge, just to save on the system
administration and backup headaches.  It's always possible to mirror
the CVS repository and other important stuff elsewhere (I'm taking a
snapshot of gimp-print's repository every night as insurance myself).

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