Re: [Gimp-docs] Would like to work on the color management documentation

2014-01-27 Thread Elle Stone

On 01/27/2014 10:11 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:


I expect that learning to use git and how to build is more of an
obstacle than learning enough about docbook since the framework is
already in place. It is a bit more difficult if you add or modify a
figure, but, if all you do is add / change text, you will probably find
it straight forward.


Andrew, thanks! for words of encouragement.

Somewhere a document says that the Gimp XML lines should be no more than 
87(?) characters long. The README says Use any editor you want, but you 
should handle it well. Please keep in mind, that the tab width in XML 
Mode should be 2 spaces.


So any recommendations on an xml editor? Preferably one that can be set 
to automatically use the right line length and tab width? And preferably 
can validate?


From my personal point of view, eclipse (too big), vim (never learned), 
and jedit (I don't like java-based programs) are not options. Currently 
I use bluefish for html and geany for writing code. A quick search for 
xml editors that run on Linux turns up too much to choose from, although 
xmlcopyeditor looks promising.


Also, I can write html as easily as writing plain text. Is there a 
utility that converts from html to xml? It seems like it might be easier 
for me to modify gimp-imaging-color-management.html and 
gimp-pimping.html#gimp-prefs-color-management to make sure everything 
looks and reads like I want it to, and then convert the html to xml, if 
that's possible, and then clean up the resulting xml, if necessary.


Elle

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[Gimp-docs] Would like to work on the color management documentation

2014-01-27 Thread Elle Stone

Hi All,

I'd like to work on the Gimp color management documentation to add a 
short explanation of the new monitor and softproofing black point 
compensation options in the Preferences/Color Management dialog.


I'd also like to make a few changes to some of the other color 
management documentation, in particular the explanation of the profile 
conversion intents (perceptual, relative and absolute colorimetric, 
saturation).


I downloaded and built the from-git documentation. I've read through the 
various READMEs and such. One of the READMEs says:


You should know a bit about Docbook and XML, or be smart enough to learn
the syntax yourself. You can get more information about Docbook and XML
by using your preferred search engine.

I don't know anything at all about Docbook and I try very hard not to 
think about XML except as it applies to image sidecar files.


There's a whole lot about both topics on the internet. How do I learn 
the very minimum needed to work on Gimp color management documentation? 
Is there a worked example somewhere? Is there a step-by-step here's 
how guide for people who really, really, really don't want to become 
docbook/xml experts?


Best regards,

Elle

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Re: [Gimp-docs] Would like to work on the color management documentation

2014-01-27 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak


On 01/27/2014 10:07 AM, Elle Stone wrote:

On 01/27/2014 09:46 AM, Elle Stone wrote:


There's a whole lot about both topics on the internet. How do I learn
the very minimum needed to work on Gimp color management documentation?
Is there a worked example somewhere? Is there a step-by-step here's
how guide for people who really, really, really don't want to become
docbook/xml experts?


Hmm, I found the color-management.xml file - that's a start!



I expect that learning to use git and how to build is more of an 
obstacle than learning enough about docbook since the framework is 
already in place. It is a bit more difficult if you add or modify a 
figure, but, if all you do is add / change text, you will probably find 
it straight forward.


:-)

If you have too much difficulty, volunteers here will probably be happy 
to review and make final changes to your content to accomplish what is 
needed.


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Re: [Gimp-docs] Would like to work on the color management documentation

2014-01-27 Thread Marco Ciampa
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:02:39AM -0500, Elle Stone wrote:
 On 01/27/2014 10:11 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
 
 I expect that learning to use git and how to build is more of an
 obstacle than learning enough about docbook since the framework is
 already in place. It is a bit more difficult if you add or modify a
 figure, but, if all you do is add / change text, you will probably find
 it straight forward.
 
 Andrew, thanks! for words of encouragement.
 
 Somewhere a document says that the Gimp XML lines should be no more
 than 87(?) characters long. The README says Use any editor you
 want, but you should handle it well. Please keep in mind, that the
 tab width in XML Mode should be 2 spaces.
 
 So any recommendations on an xml editor? Preferably one that can be
 set to automatically use the right line length and tab width? And
 preferably can validate?
 
 From my personal point of view, eclipse (too big), vim (never
 learned), and jedit (I don't like java-based programs) are not
 options. 

I use Emacs...


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di due  passi. Faccio dieci  passi e  l'orizzonte si allontana  di dieci
passi.  Per quanto cammini, non la raggiungerò  mai. A cosa serve
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Re: [Gimp-docs] Would like to work on the color management documentation

2014-01-27 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak


On 01/27/2014 11:02 AM, Elle Stone wrote:

On 01/27/2014 10:11 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:


I expect that learning to use git and how to build is more of an
obstacle than learning enough about docbook since the framework is
already in place. It is a bit more difficult if you add or modify a
figure, but, if all you do is add / change text, you will probably find
it straight forward.


Andrew, thanks! for words of encouragement.

Somewhere a document says that the Gimp XML lines should be no more 
than 87(?) characters long. The README says Use any editor you want, 
but you should handle it well. Please keep in mind, that the tab width 
in XML Mode should be 2 spaces.


So any recommendations on an xml editor? Preferably one that can be 
set to automatically use the right line length and tab width? And 
preferably can validate?


I use Linux, what is your operating system?

I installed Kate. I do not remember what I tried before settling on Kate.

http://l10n.kde.org/docs/doc-primer/kate.html

This editor is available for multiple operating systems:

http://xml-copy-editor.sourceforge.net/

I know that I was using it for a while.



From my personal point of view, eclipse (too big), vim (never 
learned), and jedit (I don't like java-based programs) are not 
options. Currently I use bluefish for html and geany for writing code. 
A quick search for xml editors that run on Linux turns up too much to 
choose from, although xmlcopyeditor looks promising.


Oh, if only I had read a little bit further :-)

I would say that you give one a try and if you really like it, keep 
using it, otherwise, try another.


I do not remember if you can set margins or not. I have been 
concentrating on my OpenOffice documentation lately, which I create in 
OpenOffice.




Also, I can write html as easily as writing plain text. Is there a 
utility that converts from html to xml? It seems like it might be 
easier for me to modify gimp-imaging-color-management.html and 
gimp-pimping.html#gimp-prefs-color-management to make sure 
everything looks and reads like I want it to, and then convert the 
html to xml, if that's possible, and then clean up the resulting xml, 
if necessary.


Elle

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