Re: [Gimp-docs] Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation

2017-03-27 Thread Michael Schumacher 
On 03/27/2017 08:56 PM, Elle Stone wrote:

> The resulting html page (shown here:
> http://ninedegreesbelow.com/files/desaturate/8-18-desaturate.html) looks
> good.
> 
> Is there any reason why I shouldn't (try to) push this patch?
> 
> I've been working on this patch for four days now and I'd like to finish
> the project.

No objections here - but I do not want to ursurp any process the
documentation team may follow.


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Re: [Gimp-docs] Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation

2017-03-27 Thread Elle Stone 

On 03/27/2017 11:28 AM, Elle Stone wrote:


I will send you the "git status" terminal output and the xml file in a
private email.


Hi Julien,

I did send you an email with the git status terminal output and the xml 
file. But there is a good chance you'll never get the email (there are 
problems with my email server).


So I also uploaded a patch to 
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=767763. I can upload 
desaturate.xml if you like.


The "git status" terminal output can be downloaded from here:
http://ninedegreesbelow.com/files/desaturate/git-status.txt

Best,
Elle

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Re: [Gimp-docs] Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation

2017-03-27 Thread Elle Stone 

On 03/27/2017 12:16 PM, Elle Stone wrote:


The "git status" terminal output can be downloaded from here:
http://ninedegreesbelow.com/files/desaturate/git-status.txt


Never mind the git-status.txt. Starting with a fresh clone, the problem 
with the po files doesn't happen.


Elle

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Re: [Gimp-docs] Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation

2017-03-27 Thread Michael Schumacher 
On March 27, 2017 4:29:11 PM GMT+02:00, Julien Hardelin  
wrote:

>If you send your patches to bugzilla, the only who will resolve them, is me. 

Um... or anyone else with commit access? You don't have to do this all on your 
own, there is a number of people who can and do build the docs, and there is 
also the automated builds on docs.gimp.org.

I found setting up a build environment on both Debian and RHEL (that's what 
docs.gimp.org uses) quite straight-forward, and expect this to be similar on 
other distros - i. e. try to build, see what's missing, install packages, 
repeat. 

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Re: [Gimp-docs] Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation

2017-03-27 Thread Julien Hardelin 

Hi Elle,

Sorry if I hurt you. It was not my aim. Only searching a way to resolve 
this endless discussion. English is not my native language and my text 
does not allways transmit my mind.


I repeat: your participation is a luck for gimp help. Time grasping is 
normal for a first contribution.


If you send your patches to bugzilla, the only who will resolve them, is 
me. So the simplest way for you is to send me your xml files and I will 
push them. "push" is the consecrated term in git to send files to the 
git repository.


it seems that some mails don't arrive. For instance, I sent you a 
command to validate a particular xml file (xmllint file.xml). It seems 
that you did not receive it.


Git is a complex tool. Can you send your git status. I will see how to 
resolve your problem with po files.


Best,

Julien


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Re: [Gimp-docs] Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation

2017-03-27 Thread Elle Stone 

On 03/27/2017 01:58 AM, Julien Hardelin wrote:



The Advanced options, along with Split View, Presets, and Preview, are
common to *all* Color and Filter operations.

I don't think it's appropriate to add an explanation about the
Advanced options to each and every Color and Filter page in gimp help.

To speak as plainly and clearly as possible, I will not add
documentation regarding the Advanced options to the patch I'm working
on for the desaturate menu.

You don't need to write information here: only a link:
Advanced options: Please see ..(link to a
common-color-features.xml file to be created).


There are not, as far as I can tell, such links in the current 
documentation to features that are in common to all the dialogs. I've 
been using the current documentation as a model.


IMHO, there is no point in putting in a link to a file (help on Advanced 
options) that doesn't yet exist.


There is no point in writing documentation for the Advanced options 
because this code is still in a state of flux.


It's not even clear if this dialog will remain in the individual dialogs 
without specific user choice made in Preferences: 
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=779620#c1


If someone else wants to write documentation for the Advanced options, 
of course I can't stop them. But I will not write documentation for the 
Advanced options, at least not until the code settles, and maybe not 
even then.






In your file, we don't see that Luminance, Luma... belong to Mode.


I don't understand what you mean. Do you want a screenshot of the
expanded desaturate drop down menu? Will this suffice to show that
"Luminance, Luma . . . belong to Mode"? Or do you mean something else
altogether?

Mode: Five options are available:


OK, thanks! I don't think the original code (which I used as a pattern 
to follow) used , but if I overlooked this, my apologies.


So you want me to change this:

Five options are available:

to this

Mode: Five options are available




I don't understand what you mean. Do you want me to remove something
that appears in the following file, and perhaps move it to a tutorial?

http://ninedegreesbelow.com/files/desaturate/8-18-desaturate.html

If you do want me to remove something from what appears in the above
link, please be very, very specific, as I'm having a difficult time
grasping what you are trying to say. My apologies, my communications
skills seem to be at an all-time low.

I told you that, IMHO, your text can be accepted as it is. I am
discussing about formatting the text.
Time grasping is he same for me with all this discussion. If you don't
understand again, please send me your xml file: I will return it with my
propositions on formatting.


If my text can be accepted as it is, then I don't know what your 
feedback about "tutorials" vs "documentation" was about. So my apologies.


I think I'll just make a commit and deal with any remaining issues later.

Best,
Elle

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