Re: [Gimp-docs] OT: experimenting with docbook-xml
Dear Marco, On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 03:18:14AM +0200, Marco Ciampa wrote: Since I want to understand a bit more about the gimp build sistem I am trying to do the things by hand. I do not know automake/autotool so I do not really know how html, for instance, files are created. I copied all xml dir outside gimp tree dir and tried to build html by hand and failed miserably. I do not know docbook-xml either and I now know I was a bit naive thinking that a mere docbook2html it/gimp.xml will suffice. Can anyone help me understand? What I am missing? It's just a matter of tooling. I'm not sure what the outcome of your docbook2html attempt was, but I assume it was negative. We chose to split up our manual into separate files according to the help ID GIMP uses. Each file is tied into the manual with include statements (xi:includes) to make up the book. Furthermore, translations are separated into separate files. You'll need to basically compile a translated version of the manual in order to generate a translated HTML version out of it. Potentially your tool will work. Look for --xinclude parameters in order to build the manual. You'll have to find a way though, to create new *translated* docbook files if you want anything else than English. Feel free to ask more questions if you want. -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
Re: [Gimp-docs] update of translation tools - for Roman Joost
Dear Marco, On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 10:47:21PM +0200, Marco Ciampa wrote: Hi Roman, I am afraid of being a bit off topic (see below). I am wondering about this: http://wiki.gimp.org/wiki/Documentation:Main https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723512 Why are you choosing this tool (publican)? Two reasons: * It would improve and extend the possible formats we can export to, since we would not have to write all the Makefile rules ourself. * I've used it inside Red Hat. Have you considered po4a[1] eventually with the aid of sisu[2] Nope. Thanks for sharing. [1] http://po4a.alioth.debian.org/ [2] http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/sisu_markup/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SiSU http://www.sisudoc.org/ I actually haven't started on the work looking into publican because of real life. What I do know is, that publican would not lower the barrier for writers to contribute new content to the manual, since it still uses DocBook. I did consider looking into asciidoc[1] tho, since asciidoc provides the same semantic model, but is simple text. Yet a first glance at it, I was unable to see any way on extracting the strings in order to support translation based on po files. It looks like SiSU tries to achieve a similar goal by using text. I think that would improve the manual, since no one has to write XML anymore. The additional benefit of asciidoc would be, that it could export to docbook, which then could hook into our current setup. Not sure if this is applicable tho. I am considering these tools for another project (KiCad) but I think that GIMP too could gain from these, as you pointed out, only I want to discuss pros and cons with someone more skilled than me. :-) Maybe we can catch two birds with one stone analizing these two tools for the two projects that IMHO have similar goals. po4a could be a potential candidate to extract strings from asciidoc... not sure. What do you think? It's certainly worth looking into. All I did with publican is to check if we could benefit from it. Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
Re: [Gimp-docs] update of translation tools - for Roman Joost
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 01:00:55PM +1000, Roman Joost wrote: What I do know is, that publican would not lower the barrier for writers to contribute new content to the manual, since it still uses DocBook. I did consider looking into asciidoc[1] tho, since asciidoc provides the same semantic model, but is simple text. Yet a first glance at it, I was unable to see any way on extracting the strings in order to support translation based on po files. It looks like SiSU tries to achieve a similar goal by using text. I think that would improve the manual, since no one has to write XML anymore. [...] And I forgot the link: http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/ Kind Regards, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
Re: [Gimp-docs] update of translation tools - for Roman Joost
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:07:24AM +0200, scl wrote: Hi, Marco's post reminds me that I lately read about the GNOME documentation project switching from DocBook to Mallard [1]. This is concerning. I never took Mallard as a big contender, since it doesn't solve any of the problems with DocBook. For writers, writing XML sucks. Now with Mallard we just say: Hey - you just write less XML, but it will still suck. I think this is considerable if we want to use GNOME's manpower to contribute to GIMP's user documentation and it could also have impact on the choice of translation tools. Yes, that is true. It feels a bit as if the documentation world splits apart again in terms of tools. I certainly can't understand from a users point of view, why we still want to keep XML. I can understand it from a technical point of view - yes ... Kind Regards -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
Re: [Gimp-docs] update of translation tools - for Roman Joost
Dear Marco, On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 10:47:21PM +0200, Marco Ciampa wrote: Hi Roman, I am afraid of being a bit off topic (see below). I am wondering about this: http://wiki.gimp.org/wiki/Documentation:Main https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723512 Why are you choosing this tool (publican)? Have you considered po4a[1] eventually with the aid of sisu[2] [1] http://po4a.alioth.debian.org/ ... at a closer glance, I see that this tool supports AsciiDoc: text (simple text files with some formatting, markdown, or AsciiDoc) I feel confident that might be a beneficial. Perhaps something worth investigating in a branch and see how far we go. Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
[Gimp-docs] 2.8.2 release
Hi, I've created the GIMP_HELP_2_8_2 branch today to prepare a new release. Can I go ahead or do I need to hold of for some additional fixup? Kind Regards, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
Re: [Gimp-docs] Greek online manual
On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 08:37:08AM +0200, Δ Σ wrote: High, I can't see in User Manual web site and in Online Manual-HTML the Greek Edition. Just for your info. I've added the link to the Greek translation today. Thanks again for spotting. Kind Regards, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
Re: [Gimp-docs] [Gimp-developer] Gimp Manual Roadmap proposal
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 05:49:56PM +0100, Marco Ciampa wrote: On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 12:26:11PM +0100, Marco Ciampa wrote: IMHO gimp-help should follow the gimp versioning convention for avoid confusion, i.e. the new gimp-help-2 should be gimp-2.10. May I rewrite the wiki in this respect? Sure, sure! Please do! It's not only me who can work on the roadmap... Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
Re: [Gimp-docs] Gimp Manual Roadmap proposal
Dear RyoTa, On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 11:52:13PM +0900, RyoTa SimaMoto wrote: Hi, I am warry about to use Publican. Publican prohibits to use link linkend=...WORD(S)/link tag then allows xref linkend=.../ tag only for internal hyperlink. (xreflabel is also disallowed.) http://jfearn.fedorapeople.org/en-US/Publican/3.2/html/Users_Guide/appe-Users_Guide-Disallowed_elements_and_attributes.html That means we need revise whole text so that each targeted section has a title. In much cases on our document, we use link with verb/noun for representing an action, a filter, or a tool of GIMP instead of using its title in the reference section. To replace it with xref, almost links may be reformed in 'see also' style, because it cannot be replaced with other adjusted phrase for inline context at referring text. Cheers for pointing this out. It seems that this needs to be looked at closer in order to figure out the best way to go about it. A migration seems to be quite costly... I presume some translators may unwelcome this restriction especially for languages that have conjugation and/or declension, when xref tag happens in the middle of text structure. Thanks for this valuable pointer. To keep the discussion for this topic in one place, would you mind moving this to the associated bug? https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723512 Cheers! -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
[Gimp-docs] Gimp Manual Roadmap proposal
Hi, I've put together a Roadmap proposal under: http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Documentation:Main Any feedback is welcome. Some of the points are not to be read as: go ahead and implement, but rather look into it for it's feasibility. If there are no objections or comments I'd basically call the roadmap silently as accepted. For each point I think it'll be good to create bugs so we can track progress. Kind Regards, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
Re: [Gimp-docs] [Gimp-web] Proposed gimp tutorial
Dear Stephen, On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 12:37:33PM -0700, Stephen Kiel wrote: Roman, I did browse through some of the tutorials looked at they way they were marked up. I don't think porting my tutorials into a markup language will be any problem. The part that I don't really understand yet is whether there are tags that will or won't work right. In other words, if the XHTLM is well formed and presents in a web browser is there any downstream processing that looks at or uses particular tags? e.g. some of the xhtml that I looked at used the older b tags for bold instead of strong. Both work, one is more contemporary, but what I am wondering is whether there is a reason to use the older tag format. Not sure. I think these are remnants of old edits which have simply been updated for a new version of the website. Once I do get ready to check out the module and add my tutorial, is there any kind of an approval process, or do I just stage the changes and commit them? Usually you can send in your patches and they're been reviewed by people who have access to the module. The more you contribute, the more likely maintainers see to getting you commit (read: push) rights. Thanks for the feedback help. Happy to help! Kind Regards, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
Re: [Gimp-docs] Help building help.
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 05:04:10PM +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Roman Joost wrote: On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:00:12AM +0200, Marco Ciampa wrote: Anyhow, perhaps it makes more sense to move to a epub/Kindle solution. I can relate to Marco here, since I'm also using my Kindle to read most of my books now. The Kindle format is even simiar to HTML. Not sure if there are already packages out there who go from DocBook to Kindle/epub. http://sourceforge.net/projects/docbook/files/epub3/ However, note that eInk readers are, in my experience, quite inferior for technical reading. Anything that involves tables and color images is likely to make your head hurt :) OTOH, EPU is more than just for eInk readers. Tablets are OK :) Hm... sounds like we need a plan. Perhaps I'll create a bug in Bugzilla and we move the discussion there ... Kind Regards, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
Re: [Gimp-docs] [Gimp-web] Proposed gimp tutorial
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 09:53:53AM -0500, Pat David wrote: the best way to go with this is to become a maintainer of your content. This is actually the step I am at currently while trying to contribute at least some time in updating and creating new tutorial content. Stephen, I'll have some free time in a week or two if you want to send me the .odt files to have a look? I might be able to help you get started as well... (or at least caught up to my rather limited insight so far). Thanks Pat for helping out!! Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
Re: [Gimp-docs] Proposed gimp tutorial
Dear Stephen, Take a look at the attached documents and scripts. Let me know if this idea is something that sounds interesting. The *.odt format files are open office writer format. the best way to go with this is to become a maintainer of your content. That means, you'll need to learn how to provide your tutorials as: * patches for the gimp-web module (https://git.gnome.org/browse/gimp-web) to add your tutorials to the current website * update them if necessary * provide them in a format compatible with gimp-web At the moment a lot of people on the project only have limited spare. That means, that a small group needs to maintain a lot of resources. If you can learn and start maintain your content in a compatible way with our current infrastructure, it'll be very helpful. That'll also put you in the position to move the documentation forward - perhaps towards a way that makes it easier for new contributors to join? I hope that summary helps. Kind Regards, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
Re: [Gimp-docs] CI offline
Hi, I've seen your ping on IRC. Cheers for your interest :) On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 08:47:54PM +0200, scl wrote: On 11.04.13 at 06:14 AM Roman Joost wrote: just let you know that the manual is not updated every night (perhaps some of you already noticed). I moved jobs and I hope I could find a new CI server. I was hoping to have this sorted far quicker, but well ... Hi Roman, what kind of CI server do you mean and how do we access it? Oooh sorry for being ambiguous. I always had gimp-help-2 built on a Jenkins and push the generated HTML nightly to docs.gimp.org. I've currently also got some positive feedback from the Fedora Infrastructure project: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/infrastructure/2013-April/012746.html Perhaps I'll coordinate with them first :) Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
Re: [Gimp-docs] CI offline
Dear Liam, On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:30:01AM -0400, Liam R E Quin wrote: On Thu, 2013-04-11 at 14:14 +1000, Roman Joost wrote: Hi guys, just let you know that the manual is not updated every night (perhaps some of you already noticed). I moved jobs and I hope I could find a new CI server. I was hoping to have this sorted far quicker, but well ... What sort of server do you need? What colour socks are you wearing? What monthly bandwidth roughly? Shoes? Any other requirements? Basically a Jenkins instance. Black. Enough to get the built HTML over to cube.gtk.org. Yes - winter is coming. Perhaps in the future an automated release, based on a tag. I currently host the gui wiki and could probably add to it. www.fromoldbooks.org is no longer pagerank 8 so there's some spare bandwidth, as long as I can keep paying the monthly fees :D Thanks a lot for this offer. Very appreciated. I've send an e-mail to Fedora Infrastructure and got positive feedback too. I'll take their offer first and let you guys know. Thanks a lot Liam!! -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
Re: [Gimp-docs] Links to other languages
Hi Ulf, I've included your patch and merged the changes with master. I also added a configure option ('--enable-languageMenu') to build the HTML with a language selector. The option is off by default. Thanks a lot for your feedback and help. Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
Re: [Gimp-docs] what to do with the orphaned images?
Hi Marco, On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 04:15:27PM +0100, Marco Ciampa wrote: $make check-images-en [SRC] src/preface/authors.xml *** Checking image references ... parsing XML files ... found 1578 references in 634 files searching images in 'images/C' ... found 1599 image files 0 broken image references 21 orphaned image files: IMHO they should be deleted. Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
[Gimp-docs] Drop HTML creation of untranslated languages
Hi, I'm currently in the process of adding support for: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=168256 Help pages should have links to corresponding pages in other languages which brought me to our damned lies page. I think we should drop creating HTML for language codes which currently don't provide any translation. (Remove the language codes from the ALL_LINGUAS option in configure.ac) Perhaps a more prominent link on our homepage to the damned lies page will help getting new translators, but currently as I see it, we can savely drop building HTML for: * Catalan * Danish * Croatian * Finnish * Lithuanian * Polish Any objections? With that I'll update the links to the work in progress. Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
Re: [Gimp-docs] Figures for each language on docs.gimp.org
Hi Ulf, On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 08:20:47PM +0200, Ulf-D. Ehlert wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 08:36:04PM +1000, Roman Joost wrote: (Tip: make -k [or --keep-going] validate-all may be better, this will continue even if validating one language fails.) Cheers for that! make html for i in `find ./html -name 'images' -type l`; do ln -sf -T ../images/$(basename $(dirname $i)) $i; done I don't see what you want to achieve with this command, but I'm quite sure it will not work as expected - local or remote. (If you really need something like this, we should better add a new 'make' target.) Trashed it. I don't use rsync (so maybe I'm wrong), but IMHO you can use rsync -avzr -e ssh \ --relative \ --delete \ images xml/*/images html \ cube:/htdocs/2.8/ [...] ... if you create an alias for every language http://docs.gimp.org/2.8/LANG/ = htdocs/2.8/html/LANG it should work[*]. It does. Thanks a lot! Now docs.gimp.org should show NIGHTLIES again with all figures. Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
Re: [Gimp-docs] Figures for each language on docs.gimp.org
Hi Ulf, On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 06:27:55PM +0200, Ulf-D. Ehlert wrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 08:02:11PM +1000, Roman Joost wrote: E.g. http://docs.gimp.org/2.8/de/gimp-concepts-main-windows.html#gimp-concepts-toolbox uses images/using/toolbox-description.png for the toolbox figure, but if I check under images/de/using, there is no such file. Perhaps should it use the one located under 'C'? What build step may I have missed? How are the docs installed on the server? Sorry for leaving out that much information ;) Build steps are: make clean ./autogen.sh --without-gimp make validate-all make html for i in `find ./html -name 'images' -type l`; do ln -sf -T ../images/$(basename $(dirname $i)) $i; done for i in html/ images xml; do\ rsync -avzr -e ssh $i cube:/htdocs/2.8/; done In the second last step, I'm repointing the the image links to one level above the HTML directory. That's because the 2.8 directory holds the whole structure and sub-directories: /2.8/html/... /2.8/images/... /2.8/xml/... I'm now thinking that this steps stuffs the figures up, but I can't really find that is is all correctly wired before I run the step. Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
[Gimp-docs] Figures for each language on docs.gimp.org
Hi! I'm currently having a few problems getting the figures right on docs.gimp.org. One problem I'm having is, that it seems that images are missing. Perhaps the files are not missing, but in the web of symbolic links gone missing. E.g. http://docs.gimp.org/2.8/de/gimp-concepts-main-windows.html#gimp-concepts-toolbox uses images/using/toolbox-description.png for the toolbox figure, but if I check under images/de/using, there is no such file. Perhaps should it use the one located under 'C'? What build step may I have missed? Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
[Gimp-docs] Can't get a stable build
Hi, I've spend now quite some time on this and can't really reproduce what's wrong, because it seems to happen quite arbitrary. What I get is: [PO] po/ko/using.po po/ko/using.po:2339: `msgid' and `msgstr' entries do not both begin with '\n' po/ko/using.po:2442: `msgid' and `msgstr' entries do not both begin with '\n' po/ko/using.po:3278: `msgid' and `msgstr' entries do not both begin with '\n' /usr/bin/msgfmt: found 3 fatal errors 449 translated messages, 311 fuzzy translations, 314 untranslated messages. make: *** [po/ko/using.po] Error 70 make: *** Deleting file `po/ko/using.po' If I ran the build again, this error comes up with a po file in a different language. I wonder if it is a version problem of automake, i18ntools (e.g. msgfmt) or perhaps our customized version of xml2po. The whole log can be found here: http://build.node.mooball.net:8080/job/gimp-help/142/console in case that helps. Any pointers appreciated. Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
[Gimp-docs] ANNOUNCE: Gimp User Manual 2.8.0 released
Hi! A new version of the user manual for GIMP 2.8.0 is released! You can find the releases on our FTP server: ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/help/gimp-help-2.8.0.tar.bz2 (md5: d6e07a569fe4b3bb11aaf5630da2693b) Users should wait until this release has been packaged in a pre-compiled form for their platform. Find more information about our goals and how you can help at http://docs.gimp.org. At the point in time, we provide a nightly updated HTML version of the user manual and PDFs of the quick reference. These show our current work in progress. We also include translations in this release, which are not complete. We welcome everyone who can help completing translations. Any enquiries, contributions and questions can be discussed on our mailing list. You'll find a quick overview on how to help us on our project page: http://docs.gimp.org/help.html Thanks to everyone who contributed! Happy GIMPing! -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
Re: [Gimp-docs] make distcheck
Hi Ulf, On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 08:56:38PM +0200, Ulf-D. Ehlert wrote: I added missing po files and fixed a small bug in quickreference/Makefile.am, now 'make distcheck' succeeds. Thank you so much for this. I've created a 2.8.0 release and updated the web site. Your changes seem to work well! http://build.node.mooball.net:8080/job/gimp-help-other-formats/15/console 'make validate-xx' still failes for a few languages xx; I will check this later. I can put this into Jenkins too if you want. That way we know if something is b0rked, or the distribution got a new set of autotools :) Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
Re: [Gimp-docs] Pimp my GIMP
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 04:42:51PM +0200, Michael Schumacher wrote: Von: Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Roman Joost wrote: There is currently a proposal to change the heading of the 'Pimp my GIMP' section to something less controversal, as it may put off people with it's political incorrectness (pimp). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pimp_My_Ride is probably the insiration for the title. Yes I think so too. Interestingly, the Wikipedia article lists no controversies about their use of that title (only legal threats by Viacom against other businesses using the Pimp my... slogan). Just to make sure, this isn't an attempt by someone who was involved in a GIMP name discussion to gather some leverage through the back door? Nope. A good friend - Jan Smith - which made that suggestion to me. I think it's a valid point and should be discussed. Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list