Re: [Gimp-docs] [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-web] Proposed gimp tutorial

2013-10-14 Thread Marco Ciampa
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 08:59:04PM -0700, Stephen Kiel wrote:
 Marco,
 
 Thanks for all of your help!  Getting the tutorial published was more
 complicated than I originally anticipated, but it was definitely worth it.
 
 I do have a question for you:
 
 If I were to write another tutorial, is there anything that I could do to
 make the release or publication process easier?  I am not sure if there
 were things that you had to fix in order to publish the tutorial.  If I
 made some mistakes, it would be a good time for me to take note of them so
 I don't repeat them.
 
 Stephen Kiel

Right question, I do not really know the answer(s).

I myself have had some difficoulties to have your tutorial published. 

I asked help to a friend of mine for testing in local the gimp site pages
before publication.
I successfully tested your tutorial using the nginx web server instead of 
Apache.
I was NOT able to test it under Apache btw...
Even when local testing went well (without errors) the publication went wrong.
Automatic compilation was blocked by a couple of errors in the tutorial pages.
It seems that my version of python is less picky about small errors in the 
htrw pages so it was not so easy to find the errors in the first place.
Specifically the code into the web pages, the text in pre class=code 
MUST BE QUOTED since there are a couple of  and  inside it that 
confuse it a bit. Once quoted compilation and consequently site update went 
well.

Some developers complained about the scheme code. They say that it
is a bit C like and not really scheme/lisp like and since it
should be a teaching example, it should be rewritten to be a better
code for beginners and students. 

Please forgive my bad english and ... don't shoot the messenger! :-)

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Re: [Gimp-docs] [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-web] Proposed gimp tutorial

2013-07-24 Thread Marco Ciampa
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 07:32:57PM -0700, Stephen Kiel wrote:

 I did format the tutorial into web format 

Here you can help me a lot. I have tried to test your tutorial before
committing it to the git-web repo but I was unable to test it.

I have started with trying to test the actual web site without any
additions directly from a git clone command. I have tried both with
makefile and with Apache SSI directly.

Same results: it keeps to create into the git dir a bunch of html files
and install just a few of them into the right installation dir.

There must be something wrong here.

I use Linux Ubuntu 13.04 wich comes with python-2.7 (could be a problem
the python version?)

Any hint?

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Re: [Gimp-docs] [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-web] Proposed gimp tutorial

2013-07-24 Thread Stephen Kiel
Marco,

Thanks for all of the help!  I don't really have any direct suggestions for
why there would be a problem with the git clone.  There is a limitation
that I ran into with testing which was the index.htrw files work almost
like an index.html file would except it did not seem to follow the links
completely.  For example the 'index.htrw' file under tutorial references
the directories that hold all of the tutorials:
a href=Basic_Scheme/GIMP Script-Fu/a Write Scheme for GIMP.
a href=Basic_Scheme2/GIMP Script-Fu 2/a Write More Scheme for GIMP.
a href=AutomatedJpgToXcf/Automated Jpg to Xcf/a Import Xcf Images a
Directory at a Time.
All of these links simply showed a directory of files in the index.htrw, I
just followed the same pattern as the existing tutorials.  I concluded that
there is a downstream process that defines the styles, fonts, colors, and
how to follow the links.  My conclusion could be wrong, but I did not see
how to display any of the gimp web with the same 'look' as I see on the
gimp web site.

Just to be sure I was clear with my intent, there should have been the
following in the share export_to_gimp_web

[stephen@localhost export_to_gimp_web]$ ls -R
.:
AutomatedJpgToXcf  index.htrw

./AutomatedJpgToXcf:
example-jpeg-to-xcf.py  gimp_jpg_to_xcf_popup.jpg  gimp_menu_compare.jpg
index.htrw  script-fu-example-jpg-to-xcf.scm

The directory AutomatedJpgToXcf and file index.htrw should go into
gimp-web/tutorials.  The index.htrw would replace the older index.htrw and
has a link to the new tutorial in AutomatedJpgToXcf.  There are index.htrw
files in several places, just wanted to be clear about which I was trying
to modify.

I am not sure if I addressed your questions or issues or not.  As I said
there are some limitations to what I was able to test, I did try to stitch
my tutorial into the tutorials section following in the same technique as
the existing tutorials.  I do appreciate your testing the changes, I would
hate to be know as the guy who broke everything.

I am going to be leaving in a few minutes and will be on the road for about
a week.  I will have very limited access to the internet, so perhaps if
there is something that I need to fix, I can look at it next week.

Thanks for the help and suggestions.

Stephen Kiel



On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:59 AM, Marco Ciampa ciam...@libero.it wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 07:32:57PM -0700, Stephen Kiel wrote:

  I did format the tutorial into web format

 Here you can help me a lot. I have tried to test your tutorial before
 committing it to the git-web repo but I was unable to test it.

 I have started with trying to test the actual web site without any
 additions directly from a git clone command. I have tried both with
 makefile and with Apache SSI directly.

 Same results: it keeps to create into the git dir a bunch of html files
 and install just a few of them into the right installation dir.

 There must be something wrong here.

 I use Linux Ubuntu 13.04 wich comes with python-2.7 (could be a problem
 the python version?)

 Any hint?

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