Re: [Gimp-docs] Pimp my GIMP

2012-07-22 Thread Jan Smith
H Roman,

I fully support changing Pimp my GIMP to something less controversial. As a
women I feel uncomfortable with the phrase.

Regards

Jan

On 29 May 2012 19:18, Roman Joost romanof...@gimp.org wrote:

 There is currently a proposal to change the heading of the 'Pimp my
 GIMP' section to something less controversal, as it may put off people
 with it's political incorrectness (pimp).

 I know that GIMP as well already gets people into arguments, but I think
 changing it to Improve my GIMP or something similar will simply
 increase the acceptance of the manual and lower the possibility for
 people feeling offended.

 Any objections?
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 www: http://www.romanofski.de
 email: romanof...@gimp.org

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Re: [Gimp-docs] Pimp my GIMP

2012-07-22 Thread Julien Hardelin

http://docs.gimp.org/en/index.html

It is now Enrich my GIMP. Is Improve my GIMP better?

Julien

H Roman,

I fully support changing Pimp my GIMP to something less controversial. 
As a women I feel uncomfortable with the phrase.


Regards

Jan

On 29 May 2012 19:18, Roman Joost romanof...@gimp.org 
mailto:romanof...@gimp.org wrote:


There is currently a proposal to change the heading of the 'Pimp my
GIMP' section to something less controversal, as it may put off people
with it's political incorrectness (pimp).

I know that GIMP as well already gets people into arguments, but I
think
changing it to Improve my GIMP or something similar will simply
increase the acceptance of the manual and lower the possibility for
people feeling offended.

Any objections?
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www: http://www.romanofski.de
email: romanof...@gimp.org mailto:romanof...@gimp.org

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Re: [Gimp-docs] Pimp my GIMP

2012-07-22 Thread Kolbjørn Stuestøl

Den 22.07.2012 18:57, skreiv Andrew Pitonyak:

On 22.07.2012 12:44, Kat Landreth wrote:

I think, given the contents of this section, something like
Personalize GIMP is more accurate. Enrich, and Improve both seem
like they should have something to do with adding features to GIMP
through plugins and scripts. But this section really is about
customizing the interface to suit your needs. So my vote is for
Personalize GIMP, or Customize GIMP.


Although I prefer Personalize, I would am more likely to perform a web 
search on the term customize than personalize if I wanted to find 
information on the topic. In fact, I did exactly that for GIMP. A few 
references were found for personalization of GIMP, but Google was then 
smart enough to know that customize might be another choice and 
returned matches that included customize but not personalize. Google 
is smart.


I think that both Personalize and Customize are better choices than 
Enrich or Improve, and I would vote for Customize even though I prefer 
Personalize because I think that a user is more likely to search on 
that term (and a quick test seems to agree with that for both GIMP and 
Fedora; I only tested two topics).


Andrew Pitonyak
I translated Pimp my GIMP to Tilpass GIMP which means something like 
Customizing GIMP or Custom-made GIMP. So I too vote for customize.

Kolbjoern Stuestoel





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Re: [Gimp-docs] Pimp my GIMP

2012-05-29 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Roman Joost wrote:
 There is currently a proposal to change the heading of the 'Pimp my
 GIMP' section to something less controversal, as it may put off people
 with it's political incorrectness (pimp).

 I know that GIMP as well already gets people into arguments, but I think
 changing it to Improve my GIMP or something similar will simply
 increase the acceptance of the manual and lower the possibility for
 people feeling offended.

Customizing GIMP. Boring, but delivers the message.

Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org
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Re: [Gimp-docs] Pimp my GIMP

2012-05-29 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak

On 05/29/2012 05:18 AM, Roman Joost wrote:

There is currently a proposal to change the heading of the 'Pimp my
GIMP' section to something less controversal, as it may put off people
with it's political incorrectness (pimp).

I know that GIMP as well already gets people into arguments, but I think
changing it to Improve my GIMP or something similar will simply
increase the acceptance of the manual and lower the possibility for
people feeling offended.

Any objections?
I am surprised. At least in the USA, the usage of Pimp My is in pretty 
common usage to mean make something overtly / excessively fancy / 
gaudy. This is so widely used, that it had never occurred to me that 
someone might find it offensive. So.. I asked my wife, who said I 
don't like the phrase, and my six year old said what is a pimp? I 
told her it was a mean horrible criminal who usually dresses very fancy 
to stand out.


No objections...

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Re: [Gimp-docs] Pimp my GIMP

2012-05-29 Thread Roman Joost
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 04:42:51PM +0200, Michael Schumacher wrote:
  Von: Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com
 
  On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Roman Joost wrote:
   There is currently a proposal to change the heading of the 'Pimp my
   GIMP' section to something less controversal, as it may put off people
   with it's political incorrectness (pimp).
  
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pimp_My_Ride is probably the insiration for the 
 title.
Yes I think so too.

 Interestingly, the Wikipedia article lists no controversies about
 their use of that title (only legal threats by Viacom against other
 businesses using the Pimp my... slogan).
 
 Just to make sure, this isn't an attempt by someone who was involved in a 
 GIMP name discussion to gather some leverage through the back door?
Nope. A good friend - Jan Smith - which made that suggestion to me. I
think it's a valid point and should be discussed.

Cheers,
-- 
Roman Joost
www: http://www.romanofski.de
email: romanof...@gimp.org


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Re: [Gimp-docs] Pimp my GIMP

2012-05-29 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2012-05-29 at 11:57 -0300, Manuel Quiñones wrote:

 I don't see any issues with the current title.  In spanish should be
 translated as Tunea mi GIMP, and I guess other languages can have a
 word for pimp or its synonyms (tune, improve).

Google translate suggests proxeneta.  A pimp is a person who
controls/procures prostututes; to pimp someone out is to dress them up
so that they look like a whore. Given that the word gimp is in there,
I don't think there's anything that can be done to make the phrase
inoffensive, so pimp my gimp ready for tricks seems fine to me. For
that one I got, chulo mi gimp listo para prostituirse which is even
more awesome.

Liam

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Re: [Gimp-docs] Pimp my GIMP

2012-05-29 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak



On 05/29/2012 07:24 PM, Liam R E Quin wrote:

On Tue, 2012-05-29 at 11:57 -0300, Manuel Quiñones wrote:


I don't see any issues with the current title.  In spanish should be
translated as Tunea mi GIMP, and I guess other languages can have a
word for pimp or its synonyms (tune, improve).

Google translate suggests proxeneta.  A pimp is a person who
controls/procures prostututes; to pimp someone out is to dress them up
so that they look like a whore. Given that the word gimp is in there,
I don't think there's anything that can be done to make the phrase
inoffensive, so pimp my gimp ready for tricks seems fine to me. For
that one I got, chulo mi gimp listo para prostituirse which is even
more awesome.

Liam



I always assumed that to pimp something was referring more to the 
gaudy way that pimps dress themselves. As an example, search google for 
pimp images. It never once occurred to me that it was referring to the 
girls. Can't say as though I have seen many pimps or prostitutes, but 
the few prostitutes that I have seen were rather scary looking (as in 
run away so you don't catch something).


While your thinking about words, however, remember that the word gimp is 
an offensive word for a physically handicapped or lame person. Very few 
people know that there are other definitions. As such, I have caught 
flak for the term GIMP (not that I would advocate changing the name).


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