Re: [Gimp-user] So it's a layer border - not a crop frame

2004-08-08 Thread Carol Spears
On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 09:31:23AM -0600, Justin Gombos wrote:
 * Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-08-07 06:59]:
  
  Yellow and black crop frame? That's the border of the active layer,
  not at all related to crop.
 
 Thanks for clearing that up - and thanks to those who privately
 replied.  I guess I discovered the layer border at the same time I was
 playing with crop.  And to add to the confusion, floating layers were
 trimming my image at the border, as if to be cropping.  So I've spent
 a maddening few hours trying to use crop to manipulate what was really
 a layer border.  For the record, the solution is to do a layer to
 imagesize.
 
and what does this get you?  you only need to do this if you need the
extra space on the layer.

i suggest that you want to use Photoshop; a not as complex graphics app
that has been built for people who cannot understand (or hope to learn
to understand) different sizes of layers.

does anyone know if photoshop has a tooltip explaining the reason they
need the same size layer everywhere?


 As a suggestion to any developers who may be following this thread, it
 would be really nice if there were a mouse-over that tells the user
 that the yellow/black line is a layer border.  I then guess that would
 annoy the users who already know what it is.  
 
 Maybe a novice mode w/ mouse-overs?  I know a photoshop user who is an
 open-source gnu fanatic, and really wants to switch to gimp, but
 insists that gimp is too difficult to use, and has some missing
 functionality.  There's a good chance that the missing functionality
 is really a case of him not finding it.  
 
nothing that a little experience would fix.  the gimp is not photoshop
so it is a mistake to approach using it as if it is.

one thing that i do not understand is the need for floating layers.  i
dont think that this term is being used properly here.  is there any
reason that there needs to be the extra step to make pasting directly to
an existing layer easier?  it is so rare that i paste anything to an
existing layer.  it makes more sense to me to make the extra step for
those rare occasions that you do paste right to an existing layer.

thanks,

carol

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.1.3 Compile fail

2004-08-08 Thread Matthew Daubenspeck
Here is the error:

 gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 
-I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 
-I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\LibGimpWidgets\ 
-DGIMP_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED 
-DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DPANGO_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE 
-DGTK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -mcpu=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -Wall -MT gimpwidgets-private.lo -MD 
-MP -MF .deps/gimpwidgets-private.Tpo -c gimpwidgets-private.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o 
.libs/gimpwidgets-private.o
if gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 
-I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 
-I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include   -I/usr/include -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\LibGimpWidgets\  
-DGIMP_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED 
-DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DPANGO_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE 
-DGTK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE  -mcpu=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -Wall -MT test-preview-area.o -MD -MP 
-MF .deps/test-preview-area.Tpo \
  -c -o test-preview-area.o `test -f 'test-preview-area.c' || echo 
'./'`test-preview-area.c; \
then mv -f .deps/test-preview-area.Tpo .deps/test-preview-area.Po; \
else rm -f .deps/test-preview-area.Tpo; exit 1; \
fi
make[2]: *** No rule to make target `../libgimpwidgets/libgimpwidgets-2.0.la', needed 
by `test-preview-area'.  Stop.
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gimp-2.1.3/work/gimp-2.1.3/libgimpwidgets'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gimp-2.1.3/work/gimp-2.1.3'
make: *** [all] Error 2

Any ideas?
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[Gimp-user] Re: Gimp 2.1.3 Compile fail

2004-08-08 Thread Justin Gombos
* Matthew Daubenspeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-08-08 09:41]:
 Here is the error:
 
  gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0
 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include
 -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0
 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include
 -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\LibGimpWidgets\ -DGIMP_DISABLE_DEPRECATED
 -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED
 -DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DPANGO_DISABLE_DEPRECATED
 -DGDK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -DGTK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -mcpu=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe
 -Wall -MT gimpwidgets-private.lo -MD -MP -MF
 .deps/gimpwidgets-private.Tpo -c gimpwidgets-private.c -fPIC -DPIC
 -o .libs/gimpwidgets-private.o if gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
 -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include
 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0
 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include
 -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\LibGimpWidgets\ -DGIMP_DISABLE_DEPRECATED
 -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED
 -DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DPANGO_DISABLE_DEPRECATED
 -DGDK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -DGTK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -mcpu=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe
 -Wall -MT test-preview-area.o -MD -MP -MF
 .deps/test-preview-area.Tpo \ -c -o test-preview-area.o `test -f
 'test-preview-area.c' || echo './'`test-preview-area.c; \ then mv -f
 .deps/test-preview-area.Tpo .deps/test-preview-area.Po; \ else
 rm -f .deps/test-preview-area.Tpo; exit 1; \ fi make[2]: *** No
 rule to make target `../libgimpwidgets/libgimpwidgets-2.0.la',
 needed by `test-preview-area'.  Stop.  make[2]: *** Waiting for
 unfinished jobs  make[2]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/gimp-2.1.3/work/gimp-2.1.3/libgimpwidgets'
 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/gimp-2.1.3/work/gimp-2.1.3' make: *** [all] Error
 2
 
 Any ideas?

I've never compiled gimp before, so this is a SWAG, but it looks like
a Makefile problem.  

Did you run .configure, if there is one?

Did you search the makefile for a rule for making
libgimpwidgets-2.0.la to see if it's there?  That's where I would
start.  Also, the trailing version number may be specified with a
variable, so I would make sure there isn't a mismatch there.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.1.3 Compile fail

2004-08-08 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Matthew Daubenspeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Here is the error:
 
  gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 
 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 
 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 
 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\LibGimpWidgets\ 
 -DGIMP_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED 
 -DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DPANGO_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE 
 -DGTK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -mcpu=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -Wall -MT gimpwidgets-private.lo -MD 
 -MP -MF .deps/gimpwidgets-private.Tpo -c gimpwidgets-private.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o 
 .libs/gimpwidgets-private.o
 if gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 
 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 
 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 
 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include   -I/usr/include -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\LibGimpWidgets\  
 -DGIMP_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED 
 -DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DPANGO_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE 
 -DGTK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE  -mcpu=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -Wall -MT test-preview-area.o -MD 
 -MP -MF .deps/test-preview-area.Tpo \
   -c -o test-preview-area.o `test -f 'test-preview-area.c' || echo 
 './'`test-preview-area.c; \
 then mv -f .deps/test-preview-area.Tpo .deps/test-preview-area.Po; \
 else rm -f .deps/test-preview-area.Tpo; exit 1; \
 fi
 make[2]: *** No rule to make target `../libgimpwidgets/libgimpwidgets-2.0.la', 
 needed by `test-preview-area'.  Stop.
 make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
 make[2]: Leaving directory 
 `/var/tmp/portage/gimp-2.1.3/work/gimp-2.1.3/libgimpwidgets'
 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gimp-2.1.3/work/gimp-2.1.3'
 make: *** [all] Error 2
 
 Any ideas?

The problem only should only show up in parallel builds (make -j) and
it has already been fixed in CVS. Just try a simple 'make'.


Sven
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